This kind of thing isn't always that pronounced, but along the same lines lots of other things in rap are overcoded. There are a million ways to refer to the same drug, the same sexual act, the same crime. MCing, releasing a record, making a beat... all of these have multiple ways of being referred to.
What does this get rappers? What effect does it have?
― Josh, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
semi-serious: probably just a continuation of 'street slang', constantly evolving and used to tell who's cool or not, who you can trust or not. you can talk about things in 'code' so yr target audience understands you, but 'squares' dont...
― Ron, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Also, I'm not thinking of the constant use of metaphor, simile, and allusion. I want to ask about those in a different question. That said, I suppose part of the effect of this overcoding comes from stuff like metaphor and the like. (But it seems to me to be a different kind of effect, since it's more along the lines of established names for things, thus 'coding'.)
One idea I had, which I haven't thought much about, is that this is just one particular aspect of the way rap engages listeners (who want to be engaged, I guess - there's always Ned, ha) in a different way from lots of other music. (Not sure if I'd say it's a difference in kind or degree.) It forces the listener to look elsewhere to find some things meaningful, in a pretty basic sense. ("Why did he just say 'pull a choo-choo'? What does this song have to do with trains?") This reminds me of (wait for it) various types of linguistic games: those of Vladimir Nabokov, James Joyce, and the snotty family with the "Genuine Class = Alec Guiness" game from the Simpsons. Sometimes word games and coded things like this are praised; sometimes they're derided as being "just" games.
Given that, there's an obvious sense in which this kind of overcoding forces a divide between the people who get it and the people who don't. Does overcoding center around a 'community' or anything that grandiose? How is rap enjoyable to people who can crack the code, vs. those who can't? Do they have to work at it, too? And is that part of the fun?
Discuss amongst yourselves.
― cuba libre (nathalie), Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Alberto Caeiro, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― geeta, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jordan, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― bnw, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
P-Funk alb covers are full of comic bk imagery too.
― Andrew L, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Clarke B., Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nate Patrin, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
who want to be engaged
I do not regard my particular approach to lyrics -- of any stripe, in any style -- as implying a lack of engagement to the music. Neither do I feel engagement of any sort is as universally a conscious decision as you are trying to make it out to be, nor do I think it is as absolute in my case as you're saying, as I did say here (yes, it's temporarily down and all, but that will change)...
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― bc, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)