Taking Sides: Crimson & Clover VS Good Vibrations

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Crimson & Clover VS Good Vibrations

― fritz, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

if good vibrations is so great, how come joan jett never covered it (to my knowledge)

― fritz, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

jesus christ, everybody's so obsessed with the indie guilt thread no body's even going to take a swipe at this slo-pitch? It's practically T-Ball! Knock it out the park, ya bums.

― fritz, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think I've had lots of time to mull over the virtues of "Crimson and Clover," since I grew up listening to my brother's 45 of it. I would say "Good Vibrations." "Crimson and Clover" sounds like a novelty record at this point. "Good Vibrations" sounds sublime.

― DeRayMi, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

jj's version of C&C is sublimer than sublime tho

haha when i watch le tigre tomorrow night will i be wishing i cd grow up to be joan jett MORE or LESS than usual by evening's end?

― mark s, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the production on good vibrations hardly makes this comparison fair

― ddd, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

mark s, I expected you to challenge my implication that novelty records can't be sublime.

― DeRayMi, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i don't think i've ever heard the original so i wz being unnecessarily circumspect

― mark s, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ddd - how is good vibrations NOT a novelty song? It's built around a catch phrase of the day and a cameo by a wacky instrument. how is good vibrations' production unimpeachably better than crimson and clover's? maybe it is but I'd like to know why.

― fritz, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The original kind of sounds like the Butthole Surfers cover of Donovan's "Hurdy Gurdy Man."

― DeRayMi, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ee-ew

― mark s, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Butthole Surfers cover of Donovan's "Hurdy Gurdy Man."
Sublime.

Donovan's version of Donovan's "Hurdy Gurdy Man."
Also sublime.

Good Vibrations is way better than Crimson & Clover. Crimson & Clover is such a garage/bedroom song - it really goes nowhere. And although Joan Jett covered it, She never covered "I'm Your Captain" by Grand Funk, which is a combination of the two, and better than either.

― Dave225, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the idea of garage/bedroom songs. Not using "garage" as any musical nameplate either, but like music that would sound good if your bedroom was in the garage. I think Crimson and Clover would sound good in there, with just enough lingering exhaust and old paint can fumes to lull you into floating sleep.

― fritz, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Good Vibrations" is sort of crystalline and static and can't move around without falling apart -- one of the things I like about "Crimson and Clover" is how it can be molded and retrofitted around basically anything you want and it still holds up as a great great song.

― nabisco%%, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

NB that's not an answer, just the point of comparison that seems most relevant to me right now. I can't think of a single artist that could properly cover "Good Vibrations," whereas I can't think of a single artist that couldn't in theory sound good doing "Crimson and Clover." Perhaps in this sense they're not even really comparable, what with "Good Vibrations" being like a photograph and "Crimson and Clover" like a stage play.

― nabisco%%, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This gets into the difference between a good song and a good track.

― DeRayMi, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two songs into le tigre you'll be wishing you were home listening to Joan Jett

― dan, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like "Crystal Blue Persuasion" better than both of them. It's a new vibration. Also, Tommy James is a more interesting singer than any of the Beach Boys.

― Arthur, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

if by "more interesting" you mean "worse", then yeah

― J Blount, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

four years pass...

"Crimson and Clover" sounds like a novelty record at this point.

hahahahahhaha oh man. C&C beats the pants offa the beach boyz ANY DAY.

― calvin johnson has ruined rock for an entire generation (orion), Friday, 10 November 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

yup

― what does it mean “hockey sticks”? (teenagequiet), Friday, 10 November 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

I really love "Crimson and Clover".

― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 14 August 2009 03:34 (sixteen years ago)

That's not necessarily my answer to the original thread q. I'm just saying.

― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 14 August 2009 03:36 (sixteen years ago)

Oh come on, Crimson & Clover.

― Turangalila, Friday, 14 August 2009 03:48 (sixteen years ago)

DURR DURRRR DURRRR DURR DURRRRR

CriiiIIIIImmmmmsssoooOOOOOOnnnn and ClooooOOOOOOooooovvveeeeEEEEEEErrrrrr
ooooOOOOOOooooovvveeeeEEEEEEErrrrrr and ooooOOOOOOooooovvveeeeEEEEEEErrrrrr

DURR DURRRR DURRRR DURR DURRRRR

NYEEEOOOOOOWWWW NYEEEEOOOOWW wubwub wubwub wubwub

― hüzün (Masonic Boom), Friday, 21 August 2009 09:41 (sixteen years ago)

I think I've only heard this once!

If it was slower, would it be "Sweet Jane" ?

― Mark G, Friday, 21 August 2009 10:00 (sixteen years ago)

(actually, I mean "if it was faster.." )

― Mark G, Friday, 21 August 2009 10:02 (sixteen years ago)

Which version of Sweet Jane, though?

I'm really convinced that Crimson and Clover, rather than the Troggs song they actually covered, was the basis for the early Spiritualized sound.

I hadn't heard this album in years, but I was looking for 1969 singles to play at the 1969 Baby club next weekend, and located a copy of this and OMG just the wonderfulness. Truly, bubblepsych at its finest.

― hüzün (Masonic Boom), Friday, 21 August 2009 10:09 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, C&C for life. It's one of a handful of songs that I really think are perfect.

― Fetchboy, Friday, 21 August 2009 10:12 (sixteen years ago)

What the hell happened between the Crimson and Clover album and Cellophane Symphony album?

What went so wrong?

― hüzün (Masonic Boom), Friday, 21 August 2009 11:08 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah Yeah Yeahs' "Our Time" (based off melody from C&C) kicks 'em both in the ass.

― claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Friday, 21 August 2009 13:11 (sixteen years ago)

the only track I've heard by this group/artist is 'I am a tangerine', are any of their other tracks this weird?

― vain_bowers, Friday, 21 August 2009 13:17 (sixteen years ago)

No - "I Am A Tangerine" is kind of on its own scale of weirdness.

Yeah Yeah Yeahs' "Our Time" (based off melody from C&C) kicks 'em both in the ass.

Get out. YYYs not fit to lick Tommy James' Chelsea Boots. :-P

― hüzün (Masonic Boom), Friday, 21 August 2009 13:24 (sixteen years ago)

Haha I know, I was just challopsing

― claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Friday, 21 August 2009 21:19 (sixteen years ago)

liner notes written by HUBERT HUMPHREY?!? oh man

― go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 August 2009 21:30 (sixteen years ago)

this thread makes me think of Crimson and CLover vs. You Make Me Feel Brand New

crimson and clover is unstoppable I tell you.. and if I had my way...

― CaptainLorax, Friday, 21 August 2009 22:17 (sixteen years ago)

...if I had to hear one song while shopping at kroger...

― CaptainLorax, Friday, 21 August 2009 22:20 (sixteen years ago)

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