Stooges Fans that like Steely Dan

Good for him! Can you tell me how all of this dadrock is any good? (remember= 'alternative'= shit!). (I like SST though)

You seem to be a member of the 'taste police'. Lets have no variety, no different view points, lets all like the same stuff: 'The classics', as you call it.

Well he is obv. not a punk, so HA.

This actually describes me quite well. "You like indie bands that sound like the Velvet Underground!" "Really? I'm not all that big on the Velvet Underground."

Yes, but the hipsters appreciate them ironically.

Oh God, I so hope this is a joke about the ironic-appreciation thread.

and in the same light, ie in terms of audience, stooges preached to easy/gone "stooge" types and maybe even rattled them into being a little less sedate, or maybe to hard people who still needed a little humility or self-examination into the muscle

but wasn't everybody too sedate and complacent in '70s America anyway to be moved by anything other than what was put right in front of them ? steely dan on the radio were the thin wedge into some tv homes, stooges music went with going out to party and just going out, provincial american in both cases back then

but the land of the free will never want to admit to a class system even if it's the most class-ist (the most opaque/protected), so isn't this just niche marketing, with in both cases the bands bubbling up and turning out to be best-ish in each respective taste category, taste being the defining thing in the '70s (so-called "taste" still best delimits the '70s more than some other decades; seventies-only taste was where more money doesn't equal more taste, just more fashion)

so the stooges and the steelies -- good bands, but both with enough taste trimmings thrown in to seriousley latch the target publics -- good bands ? because there was an awareness of the taste/class barriers in both bands music and both were self conscious about how lame-in-some-ways they might look in the broader picture, like now -- unlike kiss or toto however they both deliberately reflected various different streets truths then that we now know were true -- they're history (whereas the closing ceremony of the winter olympics featuring kiss was just business as usual)

I don't know any 'punks' (self-styled, legimate, pretend or otherwise) who honestly appreciate Steely Dan.

It initially struck me that Steely Dan made music for proto-yuppies who hung out in Woody Allen-ish Upper West Side bars with pathces on the elbows of their corduroy blazers who spent their time going to wine- tastings and earnestly discussing the aesthetic merits of duck decoys as a decorative flourish.

When I later learned that the band themselves were purported to be scowling, cynical xenophobes (not unlike, say, the Stranglers or Killing Joke) who named themselves after a dildo from a William Burroughs novel, I started giving them the benefit of the doubt. But they're still thankless musos with more fondness for snobby studio perfectionism than reckless rock abandon.

Well, duh. I'm sure that they would not only admit this themselves, but they'd do it while insulting your shoes. Don't the liner notes to "Aja" feature a review of the album that is critical of it? I remember finding this amusing when I smoked a lot of pot.

Jess is OTM!

I just love this statement- imagine Becker & Fagen giving in to reckless rock abandon!

[Me? I'm a Stooges fan who knew little Steely Dan beyond their classic-rock staples, but am investigating further thanks to various ILMers. Results so far are encouraging, thanx!]

Mary is strapping on a rubber penis: "Steely Dan III from Yokohama," she says, caressing the shaft. Milk spurts across the room.

"Be sure that milk is pasteurized. Don't go giving me some kinda awful cow disease like anthrax or glanders or aftosa..."

"When I was a transvestite Liz in Chi used to work as an exterminator. Make advances to pretty boys for the thrill of being beaten as a man. Later I catch this one kid, overpower him with supersonic judo I learned from an old Lesbian Zen monk. I tie him up, strip off his clothes with a razor and fuck him with Steely Dan I. He is so relieved I don't castrate him literal he come all over my bedbug spray."

"What happened to Steely Dan I?"

"He was torn in two by a bull dyke. Most terrific vaginal grip I ever experienced. She could cave in a lead pipe. It was one of her parlor tricks."

"And Steely Dan II?"

"Chewed to bits by a famished candiru in the Upper Baboonsasshole. And don't say 'Wheeeeeeee!' this time."

"Why not? It's real boyish."

"Barefoot boy, check thy bullheads with the madame."

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