Categorizing MCs

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Sometimes people say an MC is a party MC, or that they're all about stories (the idea being real stories, 'the truth'). This way of talking about them seems to split them up by how meaningful they're supposed to be. (See also: "he's really... abstract, you know?")

They're also described in terms of what kinds of language they use, at least as far as which words. Gangsta talk, lots of pop culture references, nonsense, science fiction, whatever.

Talk more about this. What are the usual ways of doing it? Who's what kind of MC?

And: different sub-genres of rap are split up by all kinds of criteria, but some of them (like bounce) have something to do with the rhythms the tracks use. Why not the rhythms the rappers use? (This might break the genres up into new ones where all the off-kilter ones are together, all the straight 4-4 couplets ones are together, etc.) Connect the dots: which rappers sound rhythmically like which others?

Josh, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i like beanie sigel

ethan, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i can only take the ol school 'this is what we have to SAY / we rock a party almost every DAY' end-rhyme style when its run dmc or treacherous three

ethan, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sigel is good with the complex lines that all end in the same word, i love that

ethan, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

nelly is really poor at this

ethan, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

luda is good though

ethan, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the worst is when theres only a rhyme every thirty words or so like pac used to do and ja rule does sometimes now

ethan, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

like thirty words BETWEEN the rhyming words?

Josh, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah pac did that all the time because he cared more about making some lame-ass hiphop cliche of a point so he was always like 'dont leave the streets to sell out or disrespect mama / you got to stay true to the game and keep it all under the table / when you blow up like marijuana'

ethan, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

To me there's been three phases of flows.

Early hip-hop / electro was all about wrapping your words around and on the beat so that your flow was with the beats. This went on even through the different musical changes of PE / de la soul / G-Funk etc.

But in the 90s I started feeling rappers like Wu Tang etc. were fighting the beats. Often trying to fit more syllables into a measure than would really fit. Or running behind, trying to keep up with the them. This gave a kind of panic energy to the rapping. Rappers were no longer riding the beats, but imprisoned in them, fighting to get out. This is also the way with indie rappers like Antipop, Company Flow, Mike Ladd etc.

Now coming from the South I hear a new kind of flow from Outkast, Timbaland artists, right through to UK Garage like So Solid ... with a lot of 3/4 time, triplets, syncopation. It dances round the beats, playing with them, teasing them.

This isn't new in the sense that other rappers have used syncopation and triplets before. But now triplets and syncopation seem to be the basis of the flow. The normal rather than exceptional flourishes.

phil, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the Beastie Boys rhyme like that TOO / like 1984 in per-pe- TU /

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Tracer Hand, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)


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