Crap Bands That Come In Threes

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Been formulating this for a while -

The Holy Trinity of Bands Listened To By People Who Pretend To Like Rock -

Foo Fighters-Rage Against The Machine-Red Hot Chilli Peppers

The Holy Trinity of Bands Listened To Be People Who Pretend To Like Dance -

Underworld-Chemical Brothers-Basement Jaxx

Any others that people can think of?

Mr Swygart, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

The Holy Trinity of Bands Listened To Be People Who Pretend To Like Hip Hop

MC Hammer - Vanilla Ice - Marky Mark

The Holy Trinity of Bands Listened To Be People Who Pretend To Like Grunge: Candlebox - Stone Temple Pilots - Bush

cuba libre (nathalie), Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, that hip-hop thing gets rotated quite a lot on the German telly channel that I can pick up for no apparent reason.

And the one I forgot, cos it isn't complete, is the Holy Trinity Of Albums That Everyone Owns But No-One Ever Seems To Listen To. Currently, it's The 3 EP's and Moon Safari, but I can't quite think of a third one...

Mr Swygart, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

The Holy Trinity of Unimpeachably Greatest American Rock Bands That Can Do No Wrong (if you're a humorless indie kid): Fugazi, Sleater- Kinney, Pavement (note: latter band may no longer be eligible)
(Also: Basement Jaxx and Chemical Brothers are not crap bands, thank you)

Nate Patrin, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

am i the only person in the world who likes underworld?

mark s, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm - I may well have mis-titled the thread... what I mean is, the bands that tend to get bought by the type of people that only buy one album a year (not those that can only afford to buy one album a year, but those who choose to) that makes them think they like dance music.

The Holy Trinity Of Songs That Get Requested By Students Who Are Usually Called Ben Whenever Radio 1 Do One Of Those Requesting Things: Creep-Bittersweet Symphony-Smells Like Teen Spirit

Mr Swygart, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

In that case, I'd probably say Prodigy (when their new album comes out- hahaha, yeah) and Crystal Method instead of Underworld and Basement Jaxx- and hell, Moby instead of the Chemical Brothers, too.

Nate Patrin, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

am i the only person in the world who likes underworld?

Nope.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked 'Moaner'. Not enough to buy any of their albums, but that's a pretty good song.

Mr Swygart, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Beaucoup Fish way more than I should. I pretend to like all genres except rock. (i hope this doesn't mean i truly like it)
OF COURSE I'm only pretending to like dance music. What's there after I've already danced to it? Underworld is INTELLIGENT Dance Music, obv.

Keiko, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Just because Underworld, Chemical Brothers, and Basement Jaxx have cross-over appeal doesn't make them crap, or only listened to by People Who Pretend To Like Dance.

stevo, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't believe people are pissing their pants over whether or not Basement Jaxx and Chemical Brothers are crap. I never realised these sort of bands had actual 'fans'. More fool me.

electric sound of jim, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Just because Underworld, Chemical Brothers, and Basement Jaxx have cross-over appeal doesn't make them crap, or only listened to by People Who Pretend To Like Dance.
Since this thread is obv going nowhere, canI just say that Malcolm McLaren is the best crossover artist? Thank you.

cuba libre (nathalie), Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

The Holy Trinity of Groups worshipped at women's colleges, '95-'99 version: Tori Amos - Indigo Girls - Ani DiFranco

lyra in seattle, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"Been formulating this for a while" uh huh

kiwi, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Although if you only buy one album a year and it's Basement Jaxx then you're not really "pretending" to like dance: you've made a 100% commitment to it!

Nicola Copernicus, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

am i the only person in the world who likes underworld?

No, Mr. Sinker. Underworld are a) goodly, and b) the most inexplicable dance crossover act ever. So, okay, "Born Slippy", but can you imagine sitting through one of their albums if you didn't already like a lot of dance music?

Tim, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

People are always doing this dismissive thing about dance and hip hop artists that people like who don't like dance/hip hop. I almost always love the acts so named (well, not the very poor hip hop examples cited upthread). What I don't know is, to provide examples to show that I love dance despite having all of the Chems'/Underworld's/Jaxx's/Prodigy's records (or Eminem's, Public Enemy's, Beastie Boys', say), who do I cite? A quick check of the database reveals about 13,000 tracks across these genres, so I'm sure I must have some somewhere that proves such a thing, as if it's necessary.

So what I'm saying is, who are the three acts that are only liked by people who really love [genre]?

Martin Skidmore, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Look at me, my record collection is more complete than yours. Blah Blah Blah Blah

The idea of having albums to please an elite and invisible peer group of scenesters is stupid. I just buy music I hear and like. You are all inverted music snob fools if you think the record silo you live in is purer or more earnest than anyone elses.

Why do you like music in the first place? It's dumb, it gets you out of the house and sometimes you can forget about work. Any other life affirming qualities are all down to your petty angst. Record companies - big or small - do not care about you. Jesus Christ, the bands don't care about either - they just don't want a proper job.

Face facts you are redundant dinosaurs with petty rules and lists that no one cares about.

Sonicred, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

dinosaurs are kewl tho

mark s, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

But I learned from Almost Famous, that bands are in it for the music. :-(((( SonicCred, don't shatter my dreams!

Cuba DesBarres (nathalie), Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

An insider friend tells me Underworlds new album is sounding good and is a MAJOR change of direction. I find it hard to see how they can stay on course without Jesus Emerson though.

Ronan, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh cripes...

I think I've just started something of a shitstorm that I didn't particularly intend upon starting... shite.

Basically, I do appear to have got my wording rather wrong as regards the dance thing. What I meant (or I think I meant) is the kind of dance that is listened to by people who pretend not to like dance music. People who sneer regularly at the dance music that gets in the charts but decide that the dance music they listen is in some way exempt from this sneering. Or something.

GAH. I JUST DISLIKE THE RED HOT CHILLI PEPPERS INTENSELY. I'll try and clarify this in a bit...

Mr Swygart, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't live in a record silo. But do you happen to know where I could rent one?

Josh, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"...pretend to like" is fast becoming ILM's cross to bear.

bnw, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Top three albums of people who pretend to like pop:

Writings On The Wall - Millennium - Tragic Kingdom.

Fucking posers.

Sterling Clover, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

The Holy Trinity of Grizzled Bastard Music for Grizzled Bastards Who Bitch About Disposable Pop: Tom Waits, Steve Earle, Jimmie Dale Gilmore

Brent, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Holy Trinity of Nominees for the Edie Brickell Phony Boho "REM and a Half" Soft-College Rock Award: Counting Crows - Blues Traveller - Hootie and the Blowjobs. (Yeah, like these are three seperate bands...)

Lord Custos X, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Guilty as charged, Sonicred, but I don't see myself getting out of the habit of over-analysing things that don't really matter, and looking down on people who don't know much about music, any time soon Tis a happy rut I've worked myself into, you know, and at 19, I'm far too old to change.

I used to go in for the whole "each to their own" and "there's no accounting for taste" attitude, but I have come to cultivate my snobbier, pettier side. Mind you, most of you folks own more, and have a greater knowledge of, music than me, so perhaps I should shut my fool mouth.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

1. boards of canada 2. almost anything on the morr label 3. aphex twin ambient works blah blah blah

people who pretend to like IDM.

fields of salmon, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Those worst are those people who pretend to like Christian metal: they go on and on about King of Kings but they've, like, never even heard of X-Sinner of Hangnail.

Nicola Copernicus, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Kilian

you can and will change. R'n'R is not even sixty yet, by the time you're thirty it will be close to seventy years old. There will be so much musical water under the bridge - and all available in MP3 format that it will be almost impossible to be a completist. Plus, you will be in a steady job, with a mortgage getting excited about DIY store sales... then music will cease to be important. That's not meant as an insult.

Sonicred, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Sonics argument is so sensible, but I feel that the problem with the live and let live thing is that with music everybody likes to think they're an authority of sorts, even lots of 12 CD types. I mean it's not as if it's music snobs on one side and these open minded wide eyes pop fans on the other.

I may be an anal guy for saying that I justify SLIGHT snobbery to myself by thinking of countless ridiculously silly things people have said about whole genres I like or bands I like or debates I could have won so easily but pulled out of but if that's the case so be it.

What I'm saying is, liking music to the extent that I do is so often something to be ashamed of or something which causes embarassment, or something which is generally difficult. As a result of this I think fuck it, I deserve to feel a little indignant sometimes.

I understand the Underworld/Chems/Jaxx criticism and yet I love each one. Actually remove the Jaxx from those 3 because they have fans from all quarters.

Chems and Underworld are dance music for rock fans and I get so weary of the constant adulation they get. I love them. You all must see that from my posts but they're album dance, they're dance music for rock fans I think.

I guess this IS just snobbery but it's just as someone who is obsessed currently with the dance scene and has finally begun to see it as based around singles and not albums I feel it's annoying when these so called epic works are discussed. Also, increasingly I feel DJ sets are far better than dance albums anyway.

I've lost faith in the sort of epic sound of alot of the crossover dance acts. I'd rather listen to La Mouche 10 times in a row than Underworld live once.

I'm sure this will change back eventually but right now alot of what were my favourite dance acts feel like the electronic Bon Jovi, how dare they try and play their own songs for a whole album?

Ronan, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

people who pretend to like IDM.

I resemble that remark

only kidding

electric sound of jim, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Discussing the relative merits of "Ether" and "Takeover"
Playing "Tweet" over and over again
Buying Neu box sets

The three actions of those who pretend to like ILM

Dom Passantino, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

am i the only person in the world who likes underworld?

i like underworld. but i'm ignoring that abominable "lager lager" song and basing my like of them purely on "underneath the radar". liz also likes underworld, i've seen their tapes scattered around her stereo.

and answering the question: the holy trinity for people who pretend to like music: Elton John, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam (this is the only music our upstairs neighbours listen to). for people who pretend to like NZ music: che fu, shihad/pacifier, fur patrol. for people who pretend to like dunedin music: hdu, martin phillips, mestar.

di, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

the holy trinity for white boys who pretend to like rap: eminem, nwa, wu-tang.

di, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't necessarily hate all the bands i mentioned. just most of them.

di, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

holy trinity of female musicians that dumm guys will pretend to like to try and pick up girls: bjork, tori amos, courtney love.

di, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Strangely, many gay guys like those 3 women for real.

Sean, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

bands listened to by people who pretend to like free noise: michael morley, gate, and that guy from the Dead C. i like this game!

di, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i think that hip hop list is all wrong. more like tribe, de la, public enemy

Ron, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought Michael Morley was that guy from the Dead C.

What about Harry Pussy?

electric sound of jim, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

SONICRED: "you can and will change... Plus, you will be in a steady job, with a mortgage getting excited about DIY store sales... then music will cease to be important. Thats not meant as an insult"

Settling down to a steady job will probably just enable me to buy more cd's. And I can't see myself ever being excited about DIY. Are not many ILM members settled-down householders? My point is, I'm pretty sure I'll always have a healthy interest in music, and will probably always indulge in the elitism and snobbery that comes with it. It's pointless, and we've all wasted countless hours that could have been spent on something constructive, but don't you just love that feeling of being in on something great that not many others know about? Even if we are kidding ourselves. I've tried being an even- handed observer of musical taste formations, but the temptation to be a musical snob is just too great!

RONAN: "What I'm saying is, liking music to the extent that I do is so often something to be ashamed of or something which causes embarassment, or something which is generally difficult. As a result of this I think fuck it, I deserve to feel a little indignant sometimes"

This has never been the case for me, I have to say. I rarely feel embarassed by my musical obsessions, and I love the sense of smug superiority that comes with voicing them. However, I don't feel that I DESERVE to look down on anyone, I just do it 'cos it makes me feel like a big man!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought Michael Morley was that guy from the Dead C.

yes. he's also Gate. haha i'm so funny everyone forgot to laugh.

di, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)


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