'Yardcore' - Whatcha Think?

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Been listening to this darkside of Garage this afternoon. Some of this stuff is awesome - a lot like late 'Ardcore and early Jungle. Menta 'Sound of da Future' even grabs/samples Prodigy 'Charly'. That Naughty track 'Pussy' Hype remix is really different - I like the combination of UKG pop sounds with edgy techier drums, deeper bass-drops, messier percussion.

I'm sitting through an Oris Jay mix right now, more of the same.

Whatcha think about this 'yardcore' stuff though? Does it *really* maintain London's status as the global capital of hardcore? Are the massive still holding the winning ticket - I'm halfway convinced...

― Michael Dieter, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

for a second i thought you said a combo of ugk pop sounds with deeper bass drops & messier percussion and got really excited

― ethan, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I supposed a distinction should be drawn between what is basically darkside Garage and this raggage that is being described as 'Yardcore'. In my mind, I can hear a definite similarity or progression from the Ghost/Horsepower records to, say, the new Ms Dynamite 'Ramp'. So I just lumped them together...

― Michael Dieter, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

nigga its the big southern rap impresario / comin straight up out the black barrio!!

― ethan, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My position is clear: the constant injection and re-injection of dub and reggae into garage is almost never a bad thing. The best "yardcore"/"nu dark swing" is the stuff that sounds most like dancehall and/or soca, to the extent that it even starts picking up on the latinate (ie. South American) influences that are latent within Jamaican rhythms.

Like, one interesting development has been the development of a sort of "tribal garage" that is obv. quite different to the same style in the US sense - the rhythms are now so infused with a West Indian that their pro/re-gressing into African and South American territory.

(an interesting prototype/precursor to this development is the Jaxx Wild Dub of Ronnie Richards' "Missing You" - which proves how OTM Basement Jaxx are when they start messing with ragga influences)

Whereas the problem with the non-yardcore darkside stuff is that it's influence-dry, an only slightly twisted reiteration of straight breakbeat.

You could also rephrase the split as: why is Darqwan's "Nocturnal" so much better than any other Darqwan/Oris Jay tune ever? (other Darqwan/Jay stuff is still good, but only because he's the best of an indifferent bunch when it comes to breakbeat garage).

― Tim, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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