who is the most, er, "full of it?"

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A mail list I'm s*bbed up to recently had some discussion of FSOL's laughable bullshit interview contributions to the film "modulations". This gets me wondering, who is the most full of shit, yet no music press scribe EVER pulls them up about it musician of, say, the past 10 years? For me bobby gillespie walks it, if only for that crap he came out with (I think it was in "select") about the wehrmacht and the red army being the only good armies, because _they_fought_for_an_ideology_ (christ, what *charming* ideologies, too!) Who would ILM posters nominate?

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― norman fay, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is a GREAT question!! I'll think about this over a beer or six tonight as I know there are tons of examples. For now I'll second the ludicrous Gillespie.

― Dr. C, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yep. Keep those miners down the mines! Maddy Albright has swastika eyes. Young people can't get it up like Iggy and the MC5. River Phoenix was a 'lightweight' for dying. The new Primal Scream album will 'lift you out of your skin'. Etc. (More Bobby-mockery here).

At least we know we won't offend him: he doesn't use the internet, though he thinks that, overall, it might not be a bad thing.

― Momus, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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― Momus, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Was that link supposed to go to your attack on Gillespie, Nick? It doesn't work from here ...

Agreed, though I wonder who'd come second? I still think Ian Brown was very politically sound in early interviews, but in his later years his statements were obviously risible.

― Robin Carmody, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oops, sorry Nick.

A particularly salient point about Gillespie was when Tom pointed out that "kill all hippies", a punk slogan recycled irrelevantly by PRML SCRM, was also the ethos behind Bush / Cheney / Hague / Widdecombe, an attack on all the social and cultural results of 60s liberalism. Kind of proves one of your points, Nick, I would suspect.

― Robin Carmody, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Awww, Bobby is allright. I thought FSOL in the orginal question were already winners, what a bunch a cunts. There's plenty other material over the years. I've read interviews with INXS. Jesus, who am I kinding this topic belongs to Lou Reed.

― Omar, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Why has no one said Nicky Wire yet?

― Ally, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, I think Bobby's alright too. He certainly goes over the top at times, but he's passionate about his music and always gives a good interview. Beats reading about fucking Travis or Coldplay anyway. And besides, there's no reason why you should expect pop stars to have intelligent political opinions.

― Johnathan, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The thing is, a lot of the most intelligent/insightful people are also the most full of shit. Think of Mark E.Smith, John Lennon, Lou Reed, even Julie Burchill. It's the *Gazza syndrome* -- great talents or even geniuses tend to be most prone to spectular acts or statements of idiocy. It's the nature of creative energy... but you don't want me to start ramblin' on that.

― Johnathan, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Someone just mentioned Lennon and that rang true for me. His bit about "I wish I could be a simple fisherman, because then I wouldn't have to walk around in such pain it's hell being an artist the simple people are the ones that have it made blah blah blah" always seemed like such a load of pretentious crap.

I like "She Said" though.

― Mark, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

fsol - i read something a few years back in Select - they were reviewing the singles in that month and trashed almost every one, just because they didn't fit into what the fsol were doing at that time - i thought that was very narrow minded.

― dog latin, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Think of Mark E.Smith, John Lennon, Lou Reed, even Julie Burchill. It's the *Gazza syndrome*..." Pity none of the first four will likely get to see this sentence. Watching their faces as they read past the asterisk wd be fun.

― mark s, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bob Geldof's given plenty of leeway to talk crap, obviously on account of his "untouchable" Saintly status post-Live Aid. I wouldn't denigrate for a second what he achieved there, nor do I care about the leeway given, so... just an observation. I remember reading a bunch of interviews coinciding with one of his lousy 90s albums, and he slagged off basically everyone making music who wasn't him.

'Course, said outlandish opinions make infinitely preferable reading to cowed offend-no-one PR-speak, so, I don't think ENOUGH musicians are full of it. Best moment, entertainment-wise, at this year's Brit Awards was Noel slagging off A1.

― AP, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, of course. Fuck knows why I didn't mention the Wire first time round.

(he has intelligence in there but championing Castro comes from the same source as championing Scargill, just far, far worse)

― Robin Carmody, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Damon Allbran deserves a mention. Every two years he goes on about how Mature he's become, and just digs a deeper hole.

― the pinefox, Sunday, 22 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well said, pinefox. "Tender is the Night" was his rather feeble attempt at a little bit of spirituality through gospel music. Or Mike Flowers Pops does Spiritualized as someone said.

― Johnathan, Sunday, 22 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Morrissey is full of shit. Part of why people love him.

― Simon, Sunday, 22 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Endless fun to be had with "Kill All Hippies" though the opening sample is pretty good (and as a lightweight indie-disco choon it works fine, I think).

*The* best FSOL moment was their Invisible Jukebox in The Wire where the interviewer started playing them jungle records and gave them really quite ample amounts of rope, which they promptly used.

― Tom, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No-one has mentioned Tricky yet. Boy, I really feel for people who have to interview him esp. since he stopped smoking da chronic, talk about being paranoid in a uninteresting and violent way. Which is strange because he's capable of being such a nice fellow (favorite quote goes something like "The beats don't have to be in sync, if you smoke enough the beats come together by themselves." Dude!)

― Omar, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The worst thing I've ever seen live, concert, theatre, whatever, was Tricky. He stood there and read some murder novel with a bloke, and then called up some kid from the audience to do beat box, while kind of standing around going, "I didn't really think of anything to do tonight". It was like, well then why are you here at all, jerkoff? Ugh. Tricky, pff.

― Ally, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What do you expect? The ticket should have been warning enough - Tricky by name...:)

― DG, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The FT crew is definitely not smoking enough ganja. Cause the beats *do* come together if you listen closely.

― Simon, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, honestly, I didn't want to go - I'm not even a big huge fan of Tricky's music, so I'm certainly not going to be a big huge fan of Tricky standing there doing fuck all. I also wanted to leave almost immediately, as I rather quickly figured out that he was going to stand there and do fuck all all night, but Fred wanted to stay. Figures.

― Ally, Tuesday, 24 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bit of a blast from the past, but Andrew Eldritch needs throwing on to this pyre too.

― the pinefox, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, Moby is full of shit. And it's not specific religious or political beliefs, it's the hypocrisy and the pomposity.

― Scott Plagenhoef, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...

Bobby's great! If he doesn't know what he's talking about he fakes it quite well. He is intelligent, and he has this amazing passion for music which is quite rare in most musicians today.

thank the Lord he doesn't use the net, that could get embarrassing *lol*.

― alessa, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No he isn't, he's bloody terrible. Looking @ yr email address, I think we aren't bound to agree on this one, tho'

Anyway, I just thought of another conterner for the prize - miles hunt. UUuuuurggghhh....

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― "isserley", Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bowie. Brian Eno. All those guys.

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

perhaps surprisingly, jeff mills has a nice line in psychobabble

― gareth, Wednesday, 20 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah Gareth, on the money. Which is shame because around 93-94 Mills was a shadowy figure, even nosebleed techno fans I knew would cringe when I mentioned his name ("it's too much! his mixing drives me mad" that sort of stuff). Too bad he gave up the mystery and started doing interviews, playing mega-raves and well his music has started to suffer too.

― Omar, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Snoop Doggy Dogg, or any rapper who follows the reasoning that since Malcolm and MLK were assassinated, they're going to be next.

― tarden, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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