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New bands and songs are all rubbish. It's all been done before, but you can not fill magazines and TV (or discussion forums) with that old news or make money from re-issues alone. The need for editorial content and a licence to print money are the only driving forces to introduce new bands and artists. Rarely does talent come into it - it's luck, money or both

For god's sake stop making me laugh with your pithy comments about Sleeper or The Smiths or Slayer or Korn or Michael Jackson or AC/DC or S Club 7.

The red kipper flies at midnight you muppets

― Sonicred, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

why do you not like laughing sonicred you muppet?

― mark s, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway you are wrong because "Tweet" is good.

― mark s, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Who said we were looking for something Neu and Xsiting? If I was, then I'd be on Mars.

Sonic Cred, I like your name. It makes me think of those little digi-creatures cavorting in my television. If yer looking for some cred, you're at the right place. We have it in abundance. It's now available at half price, together with acumen.

― cuba libre (nathalie), Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

ha see? pithy comments are nice. what's the red kipper --- red herring in superhero outfit?

― The Actual Mr. Jones, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

same as it ever was...

― gareth, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Please don't feed the trolls.

― ab, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

My mommy gives me this everytime I go to the record store, man...

― Keiko, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

anybody who says it's all been done before is waiting for a paleontologist to dig up their fossilized bones and reattach them for display in a glass case smeared by the noses of anxious students peering inside. The best pop is about cannibalism and cannibalism is where it's at. And there's always plenty to eat at the buffet.

anybody who says new bands are just about the cash is listening in all the wrong places. who wants their to life to be a bad country song?

― Jack Cole, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

who wants their to life to be a bad country song?

You'd be surprised.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Now if we could only chose what bad country song we wanted our life to be. As long as mine isn't something by Eddie Rabbit I'll be OK.

― Jack Cole, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

New bands and songs are all rubbish.
This is why I stick to sound effects records. "Helicopter Take Off" is my favorite single right now.

― Nate Patrin, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Can someone please give the cannibals Mr. Rabbit's address?

― Josh, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

As he's dead, that could be a problem.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Can someone please give the cannibals the address of Mr. Rabbit's cemetary? And of the executor of his estate?

― Josh, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't you love a rainy night and lung cancer as much as Eddie?

― Jack Cole, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Josh, what kind of sane cannibal would eat this thing thats already been buried, that thing must be already black and filled with bugs, nobody is evah going to eat that

― Chupa-Cabras, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

And Jack the antropofagic thing in brasilian modernism isnt really about taking the past and making the new out of that. It was about taking the european art, eating it and then put it back together adapting from brasilian reality. Its kinda gross

― Chupa-Cabras, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think to a certain extent the idea still works in a broader pop sense, the past being reassembled in a contemporary context (the history of pop subbing for European Art and the resulting cannibalistic act creating something for the Now -- though, admittedly, without as much aesthetic or political consciousness as Veloso or Gil put into applying their own adaptation of cannibalism to Brazillian pop. I know it might be and probably is a stretch. It just always seems to me that the "it's all been done before" is such a conservative position to take when really the Past has always provided the raw materials for Pop mutation and adaptation, be it blues and country combining to form rock or rock pillaging whatever. The cycle never stops.

― Jack Cole, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I was listening to On the Corner today and thinking that even retreading with more modern sounds goes a long way. Like, do I really want to hear scratchy old 70s funk sounds going crazy with tablas and shit as much as I would like shiny digital superbass programmed etc etc modern stuff that doesn't sound like a decade where people wore big wide ties?

Ans: no, not today.

― Josh, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I will be happy when Sonicred's BAN on new songs takes effect because I agree that all the good songs have already been written; but Sonicred would you ban covers as well??

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

If you ban all new records, why would you need to make new covers for them? *runs away*

― Jeff W, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Jack Cole

is it not true that people in bands want to - eventually - make money from their efforts. Read interviews with the Frogs as well as the Toploader for evidence of that. That in itself is not a bad thing because you got to pay the rent.

There is a short period in any band or artists life where maybe the importance is placed on the songs and the need to do it. Once they smell money they try to short circuit the whole process that once drove them in order to get more bucks.

Sure there are people out there doing very interesting and non-commercial stuff, but they could have the best product in the world and never get it on the shelf. Tell me the right place to be discovering new music and somebody else will disagree and give me their source. There are only so many hours in the day.

I just wish arguments like Sleeper were better than the Strokes did not have to begin and this forum is full of it

― Sonicred, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

he refers to Toploader = he is THE muppet.

― Tim, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

'The Toploader' as opposed to 'a Toploader'?

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

what is the red kipper goddamnit

― The Actual Mr. Jones, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Ridiculed for Toploader... the point I was making was... shit I'm beat

― Sonicred, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

yes ha ha but what IN THE NAME OF GOD is the bleeding bloody red kipper

― The Actual Mr. Jones, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

tom delete music please!

― mitch lastnamewithheld, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Nevermind the Red Kipper!

HONOUR THE FIRE!

― Alex in NYC, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

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