TS: Vangelis vs. Keith Jarrett

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Which of these romantic solo improvisers scrapes the heavens more?

Vangelis:

Keith Jarrett:

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Vangelis 20
Keith Jarrett 17


Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:33 (seventeen years ago)

Jarrett by a million miles, though I'd guess there'll be a fair amount of "the other guy because Jarrett looks like a d-bag" onthread

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:43 (seventeen years ago)

vangelis, because hes awesomer, d-bagginess lookin has nothing to do w/ it

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

lessee which one played w/miles? oh yeah KEITH JARRETT

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

Jarrett by a million miles, though I'd guess there'll be a fair amount of "the other guy because Jarrett looks like is a d-bag" onthread

― J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:43 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

yungblut, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

omg this one played with famous jazz musician miles davis let me clean up my jizz

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:55 (seventeen years ago)

more importantly only one of these dudes ever wrote the soundtrack to blade runner

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

you have to be kidding

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

"one is capable of atmospherics, one's actually good"

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

"famous jazz musician Miles Davis" - yes, he's a "famous jazz musician"

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:57 (seventeen years ago)

I like Jarrett better too but didn't he more or less hating playing with Davis because he hated electric piano?

I Was a Teenage Armchair Hongro Fan (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:57 (seventeen years ago)

yeah Miles made him play the Rhodes. but what does Miles know about music, he's just a famous jazz musician, not a legend like the guy who wrote the soundtrack to a Harrison Ford movie

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

plus that completely awesome chariots of fire riff we all love so much

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:00 (seventeen years ago)

hey there nerds, dont be too rough on keith jarretts dick or we might lose precious sperm that would give us the spawn of a musician who played with well-known trumpeter miles davis

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

btw i would rather watch chariots of fire any day of the week than listen to the tedious horn noises of noted jazzist miles davis

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

well there we have it - perhaps if miles was good enough to get some soundtracks he'd've rated, but I can see how it's hard to deal with a guy w/o any soundtrack chops

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:04 (seventeen years ago)

agreed

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:04 (seventeen years ago)

ok first of all

omg grapeHOOS superman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

btw max just from what I know of your actual taste I think you would totally love the Sun Bear Concerts just fyi

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

max i am fucking apoplectic over here with this shit

omg grapeHOOS superman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

big HOOS the seizuredriver

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:06 (seventeen years ago)

first of all

http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/images/local/250/2e614609-b70a-45c3-b687-638ed6a31ed8.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
blade runner sndtrk

omg grapeHOOS superman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:06 (seventeen years ago)

max just likes to get a rise outta me hoos, I don't guess he's actually hating on miles as he is trying to get a graf-long gasket-blow out of me to c/p into a chat somewhere for lulz

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

ill listen to any bear concerts provided a) actual bears are playing the piano and b) acclaimed jazz arranger miles davis is nowhere near it

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

secondly jarrett has the better hair

omg grapeHOOS superman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:08 (seventeen years ago)

but hoos on the real, we're talking about BLADE RUNNER here.

max the sun bear concerts are jarrett solo long after miles. were you born in like '98 or something?

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:08 (seventeen years ago)

ne m'accusez pas

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:08 (seventeen years ago)

if you play atmospheric sci-fi shit fuck you is basically how i break it down to an extent give me that atmospheric beach type of shit

omg grapeHOOS superman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

oh homies i was just joking we can all have a laugh, i love vangelis and jarrett and miles davis, the prominent brass musician

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

Miles did a soundtrack. And it destroys Chariots of Fire:

http://www.amazon.com/Tribute-Jack-Johnson-Miles-Davis/dp/B00074CBFG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1230138470&sr=8-1

I vote Jarrett

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

unless you are tangerine dream's album green desert in which case respect

omg grapeHOOS superman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

I don't hate on Vangelis but there is no universe in which his best work is even near Jarrett's worst.

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

max are you in fact tangerine dream's noted album green desert

omg grapeHOOS superman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

Jack Johnson movie isn't about serious shit like Harrison Ford and some new wave hottie = advantage Vangelis

J0hn D., Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

btw my real choice here is jan hammer

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:11 (seventeen years ago)

CHOOdoo doo doo dookadooka

omg grapeHOOS superman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:12 (seventeen years ago)

Plus Jarett's all over the Complete JJ sessions.

I love Hammer: Cobham, Mahavishnu, Jeff Beck. The guy's great.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:30 (seventeen years ago)

So pleased this could start a throwdown.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 23:50 (seventeen years ago)

On Xmas Eve, no less...

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 23:50 (seventeen years ago)

I don't hate on Vangelis but there is no universe in which his best work is even near Jarrett's worst.

Come now--this is just outrageous hyperbole. Parts of Aphrodite Child's 666 and Vangelis' Beaubourg and Hypothesis are sublime and surely better than Jarrett's worst. Still, I'd probably have to side with Jarrett.

inhibitionist, Thursday, 25 December 2008 00:44 (seventeen years ago)

inhibitionist theres no hyperbole on this thread at all

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Thursday, 25 December 2008 00:44 (seventeen years ago)

One of these men wrote the a rock opera based on the Book of Revelations. The other one didn't. For that, alone, Vangelis would PWN.

I Am Bored Of This Screen Name (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 25 December 2008 00:52 (seventeen years ago)

vangelis is sweet, but damn, keith jarrett is incredible. also of note: jarrett was featured in david foster wallace short story, girl with curious hair.

vergangenheitsbewaeltigung (later arpeggiator), Thursday, 25 December 2008 00:54 (seventeen years ago)

inhibitionist theres no hyperbole on this thread at all

Aphrodite's Child's "All the Seats Were Occupied" = the greatest song ever. Now there is.

inhibitionist, Thursday, 25 December 2008 08:45 (seventeen years ago)

Voted Vangelis because I am sure everyone else goes for Jarrett. :)

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 25 December 2008 10:56 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not very familiar with Jarrett, but I doubt he has ever done anything as great as this:

Tuomas, Thursday, 25 December 2008 11:04 (seventeen years ago)

Also, the Chariots of Fire theme tune. End of story.

I Am Bored Of This Screen Name (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 25 December 2008 12:50 (seventeen years ago)

One of the best ever moments of electronic music:

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 25 December 2008 14:04 (seventeen years ago)

Awesome!

Tuomas, Thursday, 25 December 2008 14:10 (seventeen years ago)

Is that the theme from COSMOS? God, I've not heard that in years.

I WANT THAT PLAYED AT MY FUNERAL.

That actually made me do a little cry.

I Am Bored Of This Screen Name (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 25 December 2008 14:43 (seventeen years ago)

oh man if it was Pat Metheny vs. Jarrett I would be conflicted, Metheny at his best scratches the itch for me that I think is scratched by Vangelis for some of you

J0hn D., Friday, 23 January 2009 15:01 (seventeen years ago)

i really like metheny, but this is not exactly his most adventurous record:

http://i32.tinypic.com/35hl5bm.jpg

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:03 (seventeen years ago)

i love wichita falls but my understanding is that most metheny does not sound like that--is this true? where else should i look?

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:08 (seventeen years ago)

Honestly, the biggest reason I'm voting Vangelis on this one is that he's the only one of the two who realizes that playing the piano (or electric keyboard) is a two step process:

Step 1: Place your hands on the keyboard.
Step 2: Shut your fucking mouth.
Step 3: Play the keyboard.

Jarrett skips Step 2, so Vangelis wins.

unperson, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:12 (seventeen years ago)

New Chatauqua is great, so's American Garage - Wichita Falls is the "out" one, right? I like Metheny in dreamy drifting mode.

J0hn D., Friday, 23 January 2009 15:14 (seventeen years ago)

phil are you also one of those guys who hates on guitarists makin "guitar face"

J0hn D., Friday, 23 January 2009 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

wichita falls is pretty dreamy/drifting

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

xpost. Jarrett's noises are pretty distracting, he sounds like a mental patient.

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:23 (seventeen years ago)

i haven't heard too much of the synthy-Americana Lyle Mays stuff actually. i like Bright Size Life, and heard some recent Metheny Group stuff that's interesting. also he's in straight jazz mode on Gary Burton's "Like Minds", a favorite of mine. also his trio with Larry Grenadier and Bill Stewart was pretty sick.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:28 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.downbeat.com/photos/IM55716.jpg
Jarrett wins! Totally. Come on, dudes. Look at his face.

tylerw, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

LOOK AT HIS FACE.

tylerw, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:47 (seventeen years ago)

Vangelis, if only because of the barbarian occult Emmanuelle dream I had recently, which had a dude with whips for arms, and this music was sorta wafting in and out of the background
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gjUxOf0K8MM/R83CFcbl3FI/AAAAAAAADcs/sB9xteOHXLc/s320/Vangelis+-+The+dragon.jpg

'92 ron fan (gnarly sceptre), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:51 (seventeen years ago)

wow @ cthulu dragon!

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:54 (seventeen years ago)

phil are you also one of those guys who hates on guitarists makin "guitar face"

No, because "guitar face" doesn't drown out the guitar.

unperson, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

i just picked this up yesterday for a buck, milton, what do you think of it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo_0.39

Albedo is a great album! My wife loves it, unlike jaxxon's wife

Courtney Love's Jew Loan Officer (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:30 (seventeen years ago)

oh i just remembered that the vangelis album that scarred me was one of the ones with jon anderson

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:31 (seventeen years ago)

TS: Shakey Mo Collier's wife vs. jaxxon's wife

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 23 January 2009 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

other favs of the wife: Tomita, AC/DC, Kool Keith

Courtney Love's Jew Loan Officer (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

She likes Tomita? I must meet this woman.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 23 January 2009 17:24 (seventeen years ago)

Vangelis, if only because of the barbarian occult Emmanuelle dream I had recently, which had a dude with whips for arms, and this music was sorta wafting in and out of the background

can't lie, this argument is v. persuasive to me

J0hn D., Friday, 23 January 2009 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

u_u

'92 ron fan (gnarly sceptre), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:55 (seventeen years ago)

^^ meant as closed eyes + nodding, rather than cry face

'92 ron fan (gnarly sceptre), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:58 (seventeen years ago)

to pass the next half hour

Heaven and Hell Part IV - Intestinal Bat
Heaven and Hell Part V - Needles and Bones

Milton Parker, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:32 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

Awesome

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:21 (seventeen years ago)

yesss! that was a close one though

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:43 (seventeen years ago)

let's enjoy his masterpiece and his totally non-embarrassing piano manner in celebration

J0hn D., Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:01 (seventeen years ago)

wichita falls is pretty dreamy/drifting

― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Friday, January 23, 2009 3:22 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yah u also want Watercolors and Still Life (Talking)

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:06 (seventeen years ago)

You really won't let this Chariots of Fire thing go, will you, John?

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:59 (seventeen years ago)

my chariots of fire video link was better, but i formatted it wrong.

f. hazel, Saturday, 24 January 2009 07:56 (seventeen years ago)

i just discovered the thread. the result is a joke. that last video is straigt out of kitsch hell. i guess a majority of you people have a very weird conception of heaven. i will be very bad from now on, not to have to go to that place.

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 24 January 2009 10:25 (seventeen years ago)

sorry i love vangelis but it's keith fucking jarrett for me. maybe i'm getting old.

matt p (Matt P), Saturday, 24 January 2009 10:38 (seventeen years ago)

oh ha the poll is over fuck all of you then

matt p (Matt P), Saturday, 24 January 2009 10:38 (seventeen years ago)

i don't know vangelis a lot but thanks to this thread i like a lot more than i thought i would.

still keith jarrett, even and especially alone, and in spite of all sweaters and retarded voices, was a beautiful player in ways that 'chops' reduction can't even begin to account for until reduction equals infinite expansion.

matt p (Matt P), Saturday, 24 January 2009 10:42 (seventeen years ago)

can somebody gif and loop jarret popping a boner at 2:36 in the first video above?

'92 ron fan (gnarly sceptre), Saturday, 24 January 2009 10:53 (seventeen years ago)

enya is also better than keith jarrett, if we're comparing piano players.

f. hazel, Saturday, 24 January 2009 20:20 (seventeen years ago)

Isn't TS'ing Vangelis and Jarrett completely weird? Why not Jarrett vs. Cecil Taylor or Vangelis vs. Jarre? Dudes have so little in common wth each other besides the piano. Apples and oranges. Besides, Jarrett is trained (Berklee) while Vangelis is completely self taught - can't read or write a note. Umm...so...

Capitaine Jay Vee, Saturday, 24 January 2009 22:13 (seventeen years ago)

But, to answer the poll's question: Vangelis does the best heaven scraping, IMHO.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Saturday, 24 January 2009 22:15 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

I picked up Opera Sauvage used last week & it's nice and all but it's suuuuuuper corny - these melodies are up on some And So Ends This Chapter Of Final Fantasy stuff

not that there's anything wrong with that except y'know it sucks compared to Keith Jarrett

the evil genius of Zaiger Genetics (J0hn D.), Saturday, 8 August 2009 00:47 (sixteen years ago)

yeah I can't really listen to that one either, 'cept maybe for 'L'Enfant'

my fanaticism requires narrow blinders, to be sure

Milton Parker, Saturday, 8 August 2009 00:54 (sixteen years ago)

have to say I support any/all aesthetic fanaticism that requires narrow blinders, it's the kind of stance that made being a teenage demigoth so much fun

the evil genius of Zaiger Genetics (J0hn D.), Saturday, 8 August 2009 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

I don't know how KJ lost this poll.

suggest banh mi (fields of salmon), Saturday, 8 August 2009 01:00 (sixteen years ago)

not much of a jazz contingent on this board

velko, Saturday, 8 August 2009 01:06 (sixteen years ago)

he didn't lose it by much

66% of V's discography I can't really enjoy, and there are many which only have sections. but I just learned to take the silly with the sublime until I kind of had a taste for the former as well

Vangelis you have to step carefully & you could easily hear five horrible albums before hearing one good one, and the albums in widest distribution are my least favorite, but for '666', 'Earth', 'Heaven and Hell', 'Beauborg', 'See You Later' and 'Blade Runner' I'm in, and side 2 of 'L'apocalypse du animaux

& by 'Blade Runner' I mean the Espers bootleg, not the sax-tastic official CD

Milton Parker, Saturday, 8 August 2009 01:11 (sixteen years ago)

Insanity. Another post-poll vote for Jarrett from me.

Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 8 August 2009 01:45 (sixteen years ago)

poll is a crime

BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 8 August 2009 01:51 (sixteen years ago)

1) suck it haters 2) vangelis rules 3) opera sauvage is pretty corny duh 4) earth and heaven & hell are where its at 5) espers is pretty sax-tastic too and is all the better for it imo

max, Saturday, 8 August 2009 02:37 (sixteen years ago)

^^ that

jaxon, Saturday, 8 August 2009 02:44 (sixteen years ago)

max now is the time to fess up to all the socks you had voting on this poll because everybody knows keith jarrett is better, you aint gotta carry all that weight max, unburden yrself

the evil genius of Zaiger Genetics (J0hn D.), Saturday, 8 August 2009 03:10 (sixteen years ago)

funny thread, poll a travesty - wld rather listen to a whole cd of jarrett gurgling than etc (hyperbole)

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 8 August 2009 08:37 (sixteen years ago)


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