Studio vs Live album

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Well, which do you prefer? Studio albums sometimes contain gems that aren't on live ones, but on the live albums the songs are often played better. Live albums are pleasurable masochism to me, as I feel totally, completely, furiously, madly, insanely jealous of every member of the audience. I start to wonder, Why was I born 30 years too late? It isn't fair! But which do you like better?

Anna Rose, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

man the grateful dead live shows blow away any of that studio stuff man cept maybe anthem of the sun

chaki, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I dislike live albums with passion. I love seeing bands live, yet having a recording of it doesn't interest me at all. Even for bands who are better live than on record.

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yessongs is the best Yes album by far.

Kris, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

ive listened to jay z unplugged more than any of his other records and its not even his best songs!!

ethan, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

yessongs has horrible sound. its all about YESSHOWS with the live 'gates of deliruim'

chaki, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

depends... when i was a youngster exploring the wilds of klassik rokk, i'd always buy live albums in favour of grtst hits as the first purchases from an artist's back catalogue, cos if i RILLY liked a band i'd end up buying all their old records, and then the grtst hits would be redundant (wheras the live album would still have a purpose)...

stevie, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

on the live albums the songs are often played better
I think you're gonna have to explain/justify that statement, Anna.

Here's one of several previous threads about live records. Enjoy.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I personally think that it depends of the genre of music and the particular band.

For example, much of Jazz is much better performed live than in the studio, a great example of this is the Bill Evans trio, they were at their best when they performed live, and their best album 'Sunday At The Village Vangaurd' happens to be a live performance itself. Of course inside jazz sometimes a studio recording works better, I can call back on Miles Davis' work with Gil Evans, never could 'Sketches of Spain' become what it was, without the use of the studio as a recording place.

Than there is the genre of pop. The best albums by pretty much all the major pop bands are studio albums, for example Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys, Revolver by the Beatles, Historie De Melodie Nelson by Serge Gainsbourg. All very 'produced' albums, that would not succeed if the music was recorded 'live'.

Than their is rock, my view towards this is slightly different, because rock often involved jamming, (specially in the case of the Grateful Dead, and in a more 'improvised' way, King Crimson) often the results from a live album actually was better than the studio recordings.

I could write more, but I'll live it there for now.

Thanks, Geoff

Geoffrey Balasoglou, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think most jazz recordings done in a studio are still live. Mingus used to do some editing on his recordings. Macero did quite a bit of tweaking and editing after the recording to Miles Davis' recordings.

Then there is Rudy Van Gelder, who recorded a big chunk of the Blue Note catalog and records for many other labels cutting the tracks live to mono and later stereo with no post EQ or anything. There in lies some studio purity any Albini recording nerd could appreciate.

As for rock, there really is only a handful of great live albums, compared to a bunch of great studio records. I agree there are some bands that their live show is hard to translate.

earlnash, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Jeff W: I was thinking of King Crimson. Look at Three of a Perfect Pair, and then Absent Lovers. On the live album the songs are played like real songs, you like them at first listen; but on Three I have to say I thought This is awful! the first time I heard it.

Anna Rose, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Fake live albums? Seriously.

maryann, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Anna Rose how do you think 'Starless and Bible Black' (live with overdubs) compares to 'The Night Watch' (original live concert of same material)?

I think the studio treated version wins hands down, though it is interesting to hear the source material, and Trio in particular has a stronger sense of spiritual and emotional exhaustion, most of it is just thinner, lesser.

Even more interesting is Craig Armstrong's version of Starless on his recent album when he layers strings over a loop of sections of Starless. Its a fantastic track and much improves on an already terrific track.

I guess what I am suggesting is that playing material live can give a musician perspective and insight into how the sounds are arranged (actually change 'playing live' to 'playing to an audience' as I think the important element is the audience feedback) so an ideal would be a live recording that is then treated back in the studio adding what has been 'learned' from the performance. I wonder if people ever use a live version of a track as a 'clicktrack' adding studio sections and removing live sections until all that is left on the tape is the spectre of the live recording.

Alexander Blair, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)


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