So, anyone familiar? What do these terms mean? What are the differences? Which new wave/synthpop/postpunk acts were which? And do the terms really make any sense at all?
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 11 January 2009 03:41 (seventeen years ago)
ebm
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 January 2009 03:41 (seventeen years ago)
But EBM was later, no? EBM was mostly used as a term for what would later mostly be known as "industrial".
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 11 January 2009 03:44 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah I think Geir is right, here. EBM is really something different. EBM is stuff like Front 242 or Nitzer Ebb. I think we talked about the term "cold wave" here before, but my impression was that it was Europeans who first coined the term. I believe "cold wave" & "dark wave" are used pretty interchangeably, and what I know them to mean is basically goth sounding music that has synths/drum machines.
― gods jangle the key change (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 11 January 2009 04:14 (seventeen years ago)
RFI: Darkwave
― stuffy old songs about the buttocks (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 11 January 2009 04:21 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.last.fm/tag/darkwavehttp://www.last.fm/tag/ebm
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 January 2009 04:53 (seventeen years ago)
hahahttp://www.last.fm/tag/aggrotech
wtf
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 January 2009 04:55 (seventeen years ago)
cold wave - belgian bands with a joy div fetish. see trisomie 21
dark wave - proto goth synth stuff. term much abused and misused. primo example = dark day.
― stirmonster, Sunday, 11 January 2009 05:20 (seventeen years ago)
http://vivaflexipop.blogspot.com/
― cutty, Sunday, 11 January 2009 05:30 (seventeen years ago)
minimalwave minimal synth oppenheimer analysis, bene geserit, esplendor geometrico, experimental products, doxa sinistra, blah blah blah. i thing most of this stuff is really cheesy. some of the instrumental stuff i can get down with tho.
― ian, Sunday, 11 January 2009 05:55 (seventeen years ago)
Oppenheimer Analysis' "The Devil's Dancers" is fantastic though. First heard it on the Clone Classic Cuts comp from last year; it's one of my favorite discoveries in ages.
― Telephone thing, Sunday, 11 January 2009 07:08 (seventeen years ago)
yeah there was a phase where I would listen to that song on repeat doo-wop doo-wop
― baaderonixx, Sunday, 11 January 2009 09:32 (seventeen years ago)
Martial Cantarel got a recent reissue on Chondritic Sound
― rizzx, Sunday, 11 January 2009 12:11 (seventeen years ago)
Is DJ Martian ever going to come along and clarify everything about Darkwave?
― the pinefox, Sunday, 11 January 2009 12:12 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah WTF is up with DJ Martian? We haven't seem him around these parts in quite some time it seems to me. Though it's true I haven't been up in the early hours for the Brit talk the way I used to be.
I don't know what aggrotech means, but the bands on last.fm in that genre all seem to have cool hairstyles...I dread hearing them, though.
― gods jangle the key change (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 11 January 2009 12:21 (seventeen years ago)
Didn't coldwave refer to the guitar-based industrial bands of the 90's, like Chemlab?
Darkwave was used by the label Projekt to label their bands, Black Tape for a Blue Girl, Love Spirals Downwards, etc. Atmospheric goth inspired by Cocteau Twins and Dead Can Dance.
― no-nonsense, Sunday, 11 January 2009 12:39 (seventeen years ago)
Hmmm.. I used to discuss with this guy who claimed that bands such as Stranglers, Wire, Ultravox and Magazine were cold wave whereas The Cure, Joy Division and early New Order were dark wave. But obviously he didn't have a clue (he also insisted on calling synthpop "gay synthpop")
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 11 January 2009 12:41 (seventeen years ago)
he totally had a clue!
― matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 11 January 2009 12:46 (seventeen years ago)
all hail gay synthpop
― matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 11 January 2009 12:47 (seventeen years ago)
LOL, no, that guy did not have a clue. Throw him in the garbage pail.
― gods jangle the key change (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 11 January 2009 12:52 (seventeen years ago)
BUTClues are better than meAnd better than you.
― matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 11 January 2009 13:00 (seventeen years ago)
BAHAHAHAHAHA
― gods jangle the key change (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 11 January 2009 13:14 (seventeen years ago)
I agree the terminology is ridiculous and conjures up bad romantic goth bands with shit cover work. However, it's helping me find a lot of good 80s music! If the term "wave" means "good 80s stuff" to Europeans, I'm willing to co-operate!
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Colored on TV! (Mount Cleaners), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:34 (fourteen years ago)
It really surprises me that crut did not post in this thread
― waiting in the shadow of the Big Gulp (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:57 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/v/KqVAHf8Kwkg
― brimstead, Friday, 14 June 2013 02:26 (twelve years ago)
idk why that didn't embed. it's "Oblivion" by Monuments.
― brimstead, Friday, 14 June 2013 02:30 (twelve years ago)
okay who knew wayne sleep had a moody, minimal synth phase?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf3l2hYtjCwWayne Sleep - Fugitive (UK, 1982)
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 12:30 (three years ago)
What. The. ?
― emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2023 13:44 (three years ago)
can't stop listening to it tbh - fascinating and a bit mad
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:11 (three years ago)
even odder is that i think it was written by keith chegwin's brother, jeff
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:13 (three years ago)
this is the a-side btw, it's a bit more of a normal synthpop song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2avrdElSnE
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:14 (three years ago)