― Nick A., Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― clotion, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Maybe "Let's Call the Whole Thing Off" would qualify.
― John Darnielle, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― John Dahlem, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
(NB I am not implying that there's anything wrong with this thread, please continue.)
― nabisco%%, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Also a lot of hip-hop is, what I'd call dialectical, acknowledging a debate internally to the song.
Digable Planets : Femme Fetale,
Disposable Heroes of Hip-hoprasy : Television, Has Everyday Life Become A Health Risk etc?
Consolidated : Virtual Reality :-) Ok, so this is a rant, but crammed with valid information, eg. against the Bushes. America No. One, No Answer for the Dancer. (The great thing about Consolidated was the way they chronicled their own downfall when the audience out-argued them.)
I Just downloaded Ms. Dynamite's "It Takes More" which is a great political tune.
― phil, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Shaky Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Billy Bragg - Tender Comrade
The The - The first couple of tracks off Mind Bomb
Bob Dylan - The balad of the Hurricane and just about anything else he ever did.
Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five - the Message (amazing, mind blowing, sublime)
― chunky, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave q, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
We are all Romans, unconscious collectiveWe are all Romans, we live to regret itWe are all Romans, we know all about straight roadsEvery straight road lead home, home to RomeTwo plus two equals four, four plus four equals eightWe organize via property and powerSlavehood and freedom, imperial purple, Pax RomanaSuckled by a she-wolf, we turn against our brotherBella bella bella, bellorum, bellis, bellisVeni vidi vici, I came, I saw, I conqueredWe are all Romans
It's so coherent, both aesethetically and as a way of critiquing the imperialist bits of western culture! Plus situating them as built deep into the core and history of the west -- this notion that's we're eternally still Roman, "unconscious, collective!" Plus putting that same kind of historical recursion even on the Romans themselves, digging to their founding myth: "Sucked by a she-wolf, we turn against our brother!"
It's so so remarkably neat and tight, so perfectly constructed.
― nabiscothingy, Saturday, 4 March 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Saturday, 4 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Saturday, 4 March 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)
I love that song. Musically too, the martial urgency and squareness of the thing offer the same message, the way "Two plus two equals four" is stretched and hammered out - it reminds me of the beginning of Hard Times: "Now what we want is, facts." Utilitarian. It's shocking when you first hear it, the realisation that yes, Western Europe is the continuation of the Roman Empire by other means.
― Raw, Uncompromising, and Noodly (noodle vague), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)
I'll try to think of more.
― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)
― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)
― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)
― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)