NO LINE ON THE HORIZON, the epic new U2 album opus

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01 No Line on the Horizon
02 Magnificent
03 Moment of Surrender
04 Unknown Caller
05 I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight
06 Get on Your Boots
07 Stand Up Comedy
08 Fez - Being Born
09 White as Snow
10 Breathe
11 Cedars of Lebanon

shook pwns (omar little), Friday, 16 January 2009 20:00 (seventeen years ago)

there are some batshit song titles here

shook pwns (omar little), Friday, 16 January 2009 20:00 (seventeen years ago)

http://la.curbed.com/uploads/2009.01.yellow.jpg

Sug's jest bang (velko), Friday, 16 January 2009 20:03 (seventeen years ago)

would be cool if this was a concept album about $cient0l0gy real estate holdings

Sug's jest bang (velko), Friday, 16 January 2009 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

I do not want Bono to go crazy tonight.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 January 2009 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

Kind of looks like an ECM album cover ... does Jan Garbarek guest?

tylerw, Friday, 16 January 2009 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

miroslav vitous jack de johnette dave evans

shook pwns (omar little), Friday, 16 January 2009 20:09 (seventeen years ago)

looks like a nin cover

bnw, Friday, 16 January 2009 20:10 (seventeen years ago)

Notice there is a line above the horizon, and a line below the horizon, but ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 January 2009 20:13 (seventeen years ago)

okay if you lol at a jan garbarek joke like i just did i think you've reached some pitiful new low in dorkdom

ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 16 January 2009 20:13 (seventeen years ago)

no shame, dude.

tylerw, Friday, 16 January 2009 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

11 Cedars of Lebanon

Bob Marley reference? It's the name of the hospital where he died; U2 and Marley were briefly labelmates ...

dad a, Friday, 16 January 2009 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

oh god please let it be a tribute to marley song

ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 16 January 2009 20:45 (seventeen years ago)

05 I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Friday, 16 January 2009 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

^kenny chesney cover?

ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 16 January 2009 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

"Cedars of Lebanon" - says it all, right there.

Pillboxxx/The Lol Belol (Pillbox), Friday, 16 January 2009 21:43 (seventeen years ago)

o whoops - didn't catch the Marley ref. It still sounds Bono-rific tho.

Pillboxxx/The Lol Belol (Pillbox), Friday, 16 January 2009 21:44 (seventeen years ago)

That is a pretty great album cover.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 16 January 2009 23:47 (seventeen years ago)

Cedars of Lebanon hospital postcard would have been a better cover.

Gorgeous Preppy (G00blar), Friday, 16 January 2009 23:54 (seventeen years ago)

Agree that it's a great cover. I guess some people may be disappointed by the music though. I don't think U2 are ready to make anymore "artistic" and experimental albums by now. That was the 90s and that phase is left behind.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 16 January 2009 23:58 (seventeen years ago)

maybe they...can't leave it behind? ;-)

shook pwns (omar little), Saturday, 17 January 2009 00:03 (seventeen years ago)

Well, judging from the contents of that album, it is their 80s albums that they can't leave behind. :)

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 17 January 2009 00:03 (seventeen years ago)

;-)

shook pwns (omar little), Saturday, 17 January 2009 00:04 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.hotmoviesale.com/dvds/11444/1/Left-Behind-II-Tribulation-Force.jpg

Pillboxxx/The Lol Belol (Pillbox), Saturday, 17 January 2009 00:10 (seventeen years ago)

I'm pretty sure I'm much more excited about the idea of this record than I will be by the record itself.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 17 January 2009 00:12 (seventeen years ago)

the cedars of lebanon hospital on that postcard (which is now a big scieno bldg) was the original location of the famously celebrity-infested cedars-sinai.

bro fratriani (get bent), Saturday, 17 January 2009 00:23 (seventeen years ago)

'I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight' sounds like a Britney shaved head era song title

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 17 January 2009 20:54 (seventeen years ago)

The cover photo (sans equal sign) is by Hiroshi Sugimoto, he's been doing black & white half sea/half sky photos around the world for about the last 30 years.

Tina Fey's narrative bonsai (I DIED), Saturday, 17 January 2009 21:02 (seventeen years ago)

I'm most looking forward to the Fabolous cover.

Euler, Saturday, 17 January 2009 21:48 (seventeen years ago)

it's kind of interesting that the band isn't on the cover. kind of.

Charlie Howard, Saturday, 17 January 2009 22:22 (seventeen years ago)

Not particularly anticipating the record, but very excited about the publicity for the great Hiroshi Sugimoto!

I once spent an hour in a room of his photos of the ocean at midnight. From a distance they look like black rectangles. But up close you can see tiny differences in _texture_ between the black sky and the black sea. I don't know if photographs really have texture but that's now it looked to me.

(xp beaten as always by I DIED)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 17 January 2009 22:25 (seventeen years ago)

07 Stand Up Comedy
08 Fez - Being Born

waht

m coleman, Saturday, 17 January 2009 22:36 (seventeen years ago)

i quite like the ludicrousness of a title like 'fez - being born' alongside the usual cliches ('moment of surrender', 'white as snow' etc.)

Charlie Howard, Saturday, 17 January 2009 22:41 (seventeen years ago)

Tommy Copper tribute

open wide, come inside, it's apple butter (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 17 January 2009 22:42 (seventeen years ago)

oh for fuck's sake

open wide, come inside, it's apple butter (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 17 January 2009 22:42 (seventeen years ago)

Richard Chartier / Taylor Deupree - Specification.Fifteen

http://www.dotshop.se/ds/media/images/item/full/LINE027CD.jpg

hmm

Matt #2, Saturday, 17 January 2009 23:35 (seventeen years ago)

I'm a huge Sugimoto fan, too. Always kind thought ISIS should use his stuff as cover art.

unperson, Saturday, 17 January 2009 23:39 (seventeen years ago)

heard a couple quick clips off a radio show... whatever I heard sounded kinda like "Pump It Up" or Shabooh/Thieves INXS.

I do not know what this means.

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Saturday, 17 January 2009 23:49 (seventeen years ago)

The Sound 100.3 in Los Angeles said that they get the album on Monday and will play it throughout the day.

i don't need to hear any new U2.

Bee OK, Sunday, 18 January 2009 06:21 (seventeen years ago)

I'm just listening to Get On Your Boots, the first single off this album... i found it utterly boring. Would like to know if it's just me or the start sounding like a bad quality rip is really as annoying as i think. Somehow the chorus reminded me Alice In Chains chorus harmonies. Did Edge had to use again that Vertigo's scratch sound? Was it imperative?

elgolfo, Monday, 19 January 2009 05:50 (seventeen years ago)

mark e, Monday, 19 January 2009 14:29 (seventeen years ago)

makes me think a little bit of muse.

uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 19 January 2009 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

Oh man I didn't know Bono repped for That 70s Show

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Monday, 19 January 2009 15:08 (seventeen years ago)

I saw Bone-O on TV yesterday talking about MLK.

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Monday, 19 January 2009 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

01 No Line on the Horizon (feat. Clipse)
02 Magnificent (feat. Kanye West)
03 Moment of Surrender (feat. Noriega)
04 Unknown Caller (feat. L'il Wayne, Jay-Z)
05 I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight (feat. Chris Gaines)
06 Get on Your Boots (feat. Hammer, Treach, MC Lyte)
07 Stand Up Comedy (feat. Chris Rock)
08 Fez - Being Born (feat. Common, India.Arie)
09 White as Snow (feat. Everlast, Prince Paul)
10 Breathe (Quiet Storm Remix)
11 Cedars of Lebanon

Eazy, Monday, 19 January 2009 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

It's a Nu-Metal "We Didn't Start the Fire"

bendy, Monday, 19 January 2009 17:45 (seventeen years ago)

Get On Your Boots sounds like the song from the end credits of Only Fools And Horses.

straight outta Easter Compton (aldo), Monday, 19 January 2009 18:08 (seventeen years ago)

If only this was, in fact, the new single:

http://www.currentworldnews.net/2009/01/19/u2-single-released-to-irish-radio-station/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 January 2009 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

it's called the horizon line for a reason...no line, no horizon...

henry s, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 00:06 (seventeen years ago)

Correct to above tracklist: it turns out that "Unknown Caller" and "Stand Up Comedy" are in fact skits, not songs.

Eazy, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 00:10 (seventeen years ago)

"I don't find it that bad: a couple of songs are surprisingly good"

Obviously this is just another way to say I'm getting old.

Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:21 (seventeen years ago)

Actually you are kind of right. But then, complaining about current music being mastered to sound like shit is like saying you're getting old too, so it seems, in today's age, you have to be getting old to understand some simple things about the quality of music anyway.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:15 (seventeen years ago)

Thank you, Elvis Costello.

Mark G, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:19 (seventeen years ago)

Now there's another brilliant musician who still makes music that is way better than the stuff modern kids listen to.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:22 (seventeen years ago)

eno has time for this and coldplay because they are the same album

note: any and all comma splices in this post are intentional (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 13:00 (seventeen years ago)

The joshua tree is the best lbum of all time. it was made in 1987 an it stills sound like it was made last week. And sargent pepers album from the beatles sound like its time (old).Compare the contemporary artist that are inspire by U2 and compare to the contemporary artitst that are influence by the beatles. Not to say but today U2 is more relevant and infuencil than the beatles. And yes go ahead and say than the beatles this and the beatles that. But U2 will end their carrer as the artist with moust grammies and more sould out shows than any other artist in music history. I got nothing against the beatles, i love the beatles music, but in a coupe of years u2 is going to be the moust sucsesfull band in history. To say that ho is better u2 or the beatles comes down to personal taste. But numbers are numbers, in a couple of years U will be the mous sucsesfull band of all time.

and how (omar little), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 22:49 (seventeen years ago)

omar I never knew you felt that way

sorry we peer pressured you into besmirching yr heroes

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 23:00 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Did anyone ever arrive at a different, eg a more positive view of this record?

I have just listened to every U2 studio LP in order and wound up back at this one. Whether that helps it, I'm not sure. (Actually a highlight was side 2 of Zooropa.)

the pinefox, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:11 (seventeen years ago)

I pretty much agree with omar(?) above, sort of, um, not quite, in a way, that U2 are "more successful" / "more influential" than The Beatles at this point. The Beatles made music for 7 years. U2 have been making music for 30+. I hear far more echoes of The Joshua Tree in everyday life than I do of Revolver. This makes me sad.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:34 (seventeen years ago)

I think that the difference is that the influence of Revolver is disseminated through the generations of bands that have come since, so it's not easy to hear even though it's there. Joshua Tree on the other hand is heard in today's music a lot more directly: just stick some delay on a guitar, find a singer who's a bit up himself, and there you are...

snoball, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:40 (seventeen years ago)

I don't hear any echoes of The Joshua Tree in everyday life, except when I play it or think about it.

But what about the new LP?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:44 (seventeen years ago)

The problems with this record are manifold. Either that or its attributes are largely invisible. U2's had more than its share of "major" records - "War," "Fire," "Joshua Tree," "Achtung Baby" - where you can hear the band challenging itself and moving forward. But more importantly, those later three radical (for the band and for music at large - witness how quickly their ideas were adopted and assimilated across the board) albums in particular feel like albums. They feel complete. They tell stories, and at the very least stand as artifacts of transformation and reinvention. This new one, however, I don't know what the band is trying to say with it. There are moments I like, just like there's lots of "Pop" that I like, but I really can't see how after all that time in three different studios, with Eno and Lanois on board as full collaborators, the group listened back to this final product and deemed it both completed and satisfying. The band should have stripped things back (like the perennially underrated Zooropa) or built things up (like Achtung Baby). Instead, they chose to hover in purgatory. Is it any wonder that Bono wasted no time talking up a proposed sister album? Assuming it ever comes out, who wants to bet the "afterthought" disc will turn out to be better?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:50 (seventeen years ago)

I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight sounds like a Bon Jovi parody. or homage.

m coleman, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 12:11 (seventeen years ago)

That's a good strong post from Josh in Chicago!

I look forward to the sister record if it happens.

I think '... Crazy Tonight' is probably the best thing on the LP.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 12:13 (seventeen years ago)

and 'Breathe', I'm afraid, is one of the worst.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 12:33 (seventeen years ago)

i wonder how xhuxk feels about the lyric where bono sings about the "atm machine"?

i was listening to this again this morning and it doesn't sound necessarily of a piece, but i still think it's a lot stronger than the last one (and slightly more than 'atyclb'.) i guess for me it comes down to the fact that the fundamental sound of the band is strong and allows them to coast through some weak tracks and almost fool you into thinking they're great epics. this is a strength for those tunes and a weakness for some others that could use less coasting, but i still think it's a good album (the first three songs are pretty A+). i mean i think it's pretty funny (and disappointing as a fan) that U2 was genuinely great and fantastic during the period that they themselves might consider to be not who they really are. i can always listen to the other records but still, i dunno...

macarooni (omar little), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 18:48 (seventeen years ago)

I heard a track from this and it sounded like Garth Brooks

Bo, a 6-month-jackson Portuguese overdrive (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 18:50 (seventeen years ago)

i haven't yet. "unknown caller" is one i'd add to the A+s. nice to hear edge's enofied glissando on those four. can't believe it but i'm into this a lot more than the byrne album last year. bono's lyrics aren't always terrible either and endearing sometimes when they are -- "go! shout it out!" broaghy bluster etc. i feel all street team but fwiw for real i haven't listened to a u2 album this much since 'auchtung baby'

kamerad, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

RE: "Unknown Caller"

"Force quit/and move to trash" are the most inexcusable lyrics in the history of bad Bono lyrics, and that's saying something.

Dave Depper (Davey D), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:29 (seventeen years ago)

i get a drunk uncle vibe from them

kamerad, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

haven't listened to this much but I always thought of "Breathe" as the best track

some dude, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

I heard a track from this and it sounded like Garth Brooks

I wish!

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

The first three track start this album out SO strongly that the comedown provided by "Unknown Caller" (worst lyrics ever), "GOYB" (naff all around), and "Stand Up Comedy" (top 5 worst U2 songs ever?) cannot help but color the experience of listening to the final four track, which are pretty great. I'm so upset by the time I get to them that I just want to put on something else.

Dave Depper (Davey D), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 21:21 (seventeen years ago)

Apparently I am incapable of writing the word "tracks."

Dave Depper (Davey D), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

and it's like you're judging who's next by "goin' mobile"

kamerad, Thursday, 23 April 2009 01:37 (seventeen years ago)

and it's 1971 not now

kamerad, Thursday, 23 April 2009 01:38 (seventeen years ago)

Interesting.

we all want the title track to be great - but is it? I fear it's not that great. The amount of time he spends going 'a-wo-a-woa-a-woa-a-wao' is a bad sign.

'Magnificent' is an example of U2 coasting as described above, or rather - of their loveable sound pulling through something that's not really very good. I do like it when the riff starts up but Bono jumps on it pretty fast.

'moment of surrender' I doubt but Eno did speak so highly of it. I quite like how it starts very differently from how it goes on (as does Fez).

Agree about the awful computer lyrics in 'unknown caller' but I actually like aspects of this, mainly the old-time Edge sound.

'crazy tonight' I think is the best track!

the 45 is not all so bad. and I'm not sure 'stand-up comedy' is all bad either. But 'Breathe' really can be hard to listen to - what is that accent he winds up with? Nastily midAtlantic.

the pinefox, Thursday, 23 April 2009 07:25 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe No Line On The Horizon isnt really that great, but at least when it comes out of the PA here in the store, it sounds like a breath of fresh air. Its enough for me, these days.

Marco Damiani, Thursday, 23 April 2009 14:00 (seventeen years ago)

The only difference is, "Goin' Mobile" rulez.

Dave Depper (Davey D), Thursday, 23 April 2009 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

"Cedars of Lebanon" is great. The rest I'll withhold judgement on, because Zooropa was the only U2 I loved immediately, after War, and my opinion slowly shifted on that and every other one except Achtung Baby, which I still don't get. So far, I count more great songs on the last couple.

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 23 April 2009 18:23 (seventeen years ago)

eight months pass...

BBC admits promotion of U2 album was 'inappropriate'

The BBC has admitted coverage of the launch of U2 album No Line On The Horizon last February, went too far - giving "undue prominence" to the band.
Critics said the BBC had given U2 "the sort of publicity money can't buy".

The corporation's editorial complaints unit (ECU) acknowledged that radio coverage of the event, including a rooftop concert, breached guidelines.
It added the use of the slogan U2 = BBC "gave an inappropriate impression of endorsement".

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 14 January 2010 19:17 (sixteen years ago)

ILX admits promotion of U2 album was 'inappropriate'

an executive by day and a wild man by night (snoball), Thursday, 14 January 2010 19:47 (sixteen years ago)

U2 admits creation of U2 album was 'unnecessary.'

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 January 2010 19:47 (sixteen years ago)

five months pass...

Shared courtesy of Tom Ewing. And the opening line is, really, just the beginning:

http://www.dailyiowan.com/2009/03/03/Arts/10358.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 17:17 (fifteen years ago)

no no no no no no no no no no no no no oh god no

Fee Fie Fo, FUNFNFUINFLFF! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

That's what she...uh, never mind.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

"lighter tunes"...Zippo jingles?

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

One standout, “White As Snow,” has lyrics which include the phrase “Once I knew there was a love divine / Then came a time I thought I knew me not / Who can forgive forgiveness when forgiveness is not / Only the land as white as snow.” Only U2 can pull off using subtle religious references mixed with forgiveness as a lyrical theme and do it with a sultry and classy melody.

waht

Fee Fie Fo, FUNFNFUINFLFF! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

was this album just released in Iowa, btw

Fee Fie Fo, FUNFNFUINFLFF! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

Nah, check the date of the review. How Tom found out about it probably had to do with the comment section of the Popular entry on "Desire":

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2010/07/u2-desire/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

ah, I only saw that date in the banner, not the date on the review

I was gonna lol hardcore at that but I suppose I'll have to content myself with lolling hardcore at what she actually wrote

Fee Fie Fo, FUNFNFUINFLFF! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

U2 lead singer Bono’s pleasing sex voice
U2 lead singer Bono’s pleasing sex voice
U2 lead singer Bono’s pleasing sex voice
U2 lead singer Bono’s pleasing sex voice
U2 lead singer Bono’s pleasing sex voice
U2 lead singer Bono’s pleasing sex voice
U2 lead singer Bono’s pleasing sex voice
U2 lead singer Bono’s pleasing sex voice
U2 lead singer Bono’s pleasing sex voice
U2 lead singer Bono’s pleasing sex voice
U2 lead singer Bono’s pleasing sex voice

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

One of the remarkable things about U2, which holds true to its newest CD, is its drive to create new styles. The band is known for releasing an album (take War, for instance) with a hard-rock sound, and then turning around releasing its next CD (in this case, The Unforgettable Fire) with lighter tunes.

New styles created by U2, then:

"a hard-rock sound"
"lighter tunes"

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

All the sex references and I'm thinking this Rachael person really want Bono to bone her.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 18:06 (fifteen years ago)

"With lyrics and melodies that offer more than just Bono’s vox, No Line on the Horizon is nothing if not a gift from God"

AHAHAHAHA GEDDIT? Bono's...Vox?

O_o

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

http://images.dailyradar.com/media/uploads/showhype/story_large/2008/10/27/article_1080636_023aedff000005dc_479_468x374.jpg
l-r: Rachael, Bono, some girl

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

Take the singles out of the equation and the last 2 U2 albums are really quite an uneasy listen and nothing like what you'd expect at all from the world's biggest rock band. You'd think it'd be more like 1990s Rolling Stones or something.

piscesx, Saturday, 4 September 2010 17:12 (fifteen years ago)

two years pass...

Listening to this now, and reading about it, I'm struck by the extent to which all involved felt this record was some big departure. I think the record starts fairly strongly and despite its detour into the Rubin stuff midway, feels more of a piece than some suggest.

But beyond the little intros (which Eno composes for Coldplay too fwiw), it sounds like...U2. Where the record differs it seems is that there feel like structural things going on -- the group chorus on "Unknown Caller," the slow build of "Moment of Surrender," the keyboard break in "FEZ/Being Born" all have the feel of the band, if not exactly stretching out, digging a bit deeper.

Also, between the songwriting credits for Eno/Lanois and the Harold Budd sample, the whole thing seems a little like a band wanting to share the wealth with their heroes and mentors.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, literally. But for their involvement, and given the advance word on the record, I was hoping for something a little strange, more exciting, more interesting, not just more erratic. I've often heard Eno describe working with U2 as more or less riding a parabola. You start with nothing, things get better, you hit a peak, and then things get worse. That pattern repeats over and over until the band simply runs out of time. If it runs out of time at a high point, things turn out well. If it runs out of time at a low point, things are less satisfying, like this record and "Pop," both of which have their pleasures but neither of which either cohere like the best U2 albums or challenge like the most interesting. Or do both like the best. For a group with unlimited resources, I wish it reverted more to the adventure-mode, but I think at this point it's just such a huge enterprise - and hard enough to get everyone in the same room - its creativity is curtailed by second guessing and a desire to play it safer for the sake of the bottom line.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

I think that's probably about right. The advance, at least in part, was based on the fact that many of the original sessions were done with Moroccan musicians -- most of which was wiped off when they felt it sounded too typically "exotic."

The thing that makes me hesitate to dismiss the record, and that gives me the sense that it may be a bit of a grower, is the certitude with which folks like Eno and Lanois were promoting this record. In Eno's case, he called the recording of "Moment of Surrender" something like "the single most extraordinary experience" he ever had in a studio. Now, part of that may be a tendency toward hyperbole in the face of an intense marketing campaign (Eno said something similar about Bowie's Outside sessions).

But it makes me wonder whether there was something about the process of making this record—the ease with which the group was able to establish the core tenets of its sound and to explore within it—that really struck a chord with parties involved. Basically, I wonder if this ended up being less a U2 record made for the public than for the band (and producers) themselves.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)


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