zep's best hobbit jam

battle of evermore fer sure...it's all about Sandy Denny...

yes it is

Yup

It's just that "Hills" is my favorite song by them.

Ramble On!

which competes in my head with "That's the Way" as the prettiest zep song.

these are all good songs but really to me it's a 2 horse race between "Ramble On" and "Over The Hills," both really major Zep songs. probably going with the latter.

hmmmm....

It is most likely that Ramble On is mainly about Frodo's stay in Rivendell, while the Council of Elrond decided what was to be done with the Ring. Frodo enjoys his stay very much, but knows through this time that he has a very somber task ahead of him, and he must indeed "ramble on." It is equally possible that the song is about Frodo's stay in Lothlorien, where the full moon cycled a full time, and it would have "lit his way." The majority of the relation in the first two verses is self-explanatory, so I won't go into all of that. The major question I have about the first two verses is the identity of the "Queen of all his dreams," and how he has been "this way ten years to the day." These are the only two lines that don't literally fit, and they actually could point to Homer's Odyssey, the subject of another Led Zeppelin song.

The third verse is probably the most interesting part of the song. The mention of Gollum, from the Tolkien Trilogy, makes this song's relation to Tolkien the most widely known. However, the lyrics involving Gollum are quite puzzling. Who is the "girl so fair?" My first guess was the Ring, but Frodo was a long way from Mordor when he met that girl. It is possible that the girl is Shelob is the said girl, but Shelob(a giant spider) is definitely not "fair."

what is the link twixt Tolkien and the Over the Hills anyway?

the page I linked above tries to explain it and doesn't do so very satisfactorily, but it's frequently mentioned as one of Zep's songs with LOTR content so I included it here. the "Bron-Y-Aur" connection is kind of tenuous, too, since Plant simply shouts the name of his dog that he named after a Tolkien character).

these all happen to be fantastic zep jamz

I would say if it's a jam and it's "about" hobbits or for them or whatevs, Misty Mountain is the one

(xpost) They are but I vote for "Misty Mountain Hop"

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Is "Immigrant Song" not here because it's a Conan jam or what?

it's a viking jam!

Guys with swords and dresses all look alike to me.

oh, you've got such a long way to go.

"battle of evermore" for sure, with plant most likely wanting to bring the balance back, though maybe he becomes sauron, begging for the return of the ring. "bring it back! bring it, bring it, bring it. . . ."

Best Hobbit Jams would be a great poll

gotta have pearls before swine's "ring thing"

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i thought 'all of my love' was hobbitish??

hmm never heard "All My Love" that way. wiki says Plant wrote it about his dead son.

What is the last verse of "Four Sticks" about?

Sounds kinda Hobbit-y.

Close the door, put out the light
No they won't be home tonight
The snow falls hard and don't you know
The winds of Thor are blowin cold (cold cold cold cold)
They're wearing steel that's (drums) bright and true
They carry news that must get through
Then to the path where no one goes

They hold no quarter, they hold no quarter

(Piano solo)

won't be washing clothes tonight

07-19-2002, 10:31 PM
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Stairway to Heaven IS Tolkien related!! (LONG)
Since its release in 1971, the meaning of Stairway to Heaven has been to subject to one of the greatest debates in the history of mankind. Now it is solved...

Many people have alleged that Stairway to Heaven is not about the Tolkien book The Lord of the Rings but have given no reasons or incite about what the song is actually about. If not Lord of the Rings, then what is it about?

Lets examine the facts.

FACT: Robert Plant, the lead singer of Led Zeppelin, wrote many songs about the Tolkien mythos including: Ramble On, Over the Hills and Far Away, and Kashmir

FACT: The songs before AND after Stairway are about Lord of the Rings; Battle of Evermore and Misty Mountain Hop.

FACT: In the song Battle of Evermore, the first line is undisputedly referring to Galadriel "Queen of Light took her bow, And then she turned to go", and YET, in the VERY next song, Stairway, it is claimed that a very similar line is for some reason not referring to the elven queen, Galadriel. "There walks a lady we all know
Who shines white light and wants to show". In the book, it is stated on page 381, it says of Galadriel, “She lifted up her hand and from the ring that she wore there issued a great light that illumined her alone and left all else dark." hmm.. it makes me wonder

FACT: In the book, LotR, in the first line of a very important poem which occurs in the book several times begins with "All that is gold does not glitter"; Stairway begins with the line "theres a lady who’s sure ALL THAT GLITERS IS GOLD". hmm. it really makes me wonder

ASSUMTION: If the lady in the song is Galadriel, which it probably is, perhaps what shes buying is a heaven like state of golden youthfulness for her and for her people of Lothlorien.

ASSUMTION: In the book they say that Galadriel lived next to a river and sang the most beautiful songs of all. "In a tree by the brook, there's a songbird who sings"

FACT: It is a common sentiment in the book to be homesick for wonderful places in the west, for Galadriel it would mean the western land of Valinor where the elves and wizards came from and where gandolf, elrond, and Galadriel eventually went. "There's a feeling I get when I look to the west,
And my spirit is crying for leaving."

ASSUMTION: "In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees, And the voices of those who standing looking." The rings of smoke are either referring to the smoke rings that gandolf blew or the destruction of the forests of mirkwood by sarumon. The things that stand looking are probably referring to the ents.

FACT: Aragorn was the heir to the throne of Gondor whos strength was represented by the horn of gondor who after becoming king rekindles an era of peace and reason. "And it's whispered that soon if we all call the tune Then the piper will lead us to reason." Which means that if they all follow Aragorn...the piper... then a new day will come. "And a new day will dawn for those who stand long And the forests will echo with laughter."

ASSUMTION: this line "Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow, and did you know Your stairway lies on the whispering wind." is referring to how galadriel's unaging lothlorien ..heaven.. ended.

FACT: It is a reoccurring theme in LotR that greed and fear can corrupt even the best people..borimir.."And as we wind on down the road Our shadows taller than our soul."

Everything that i have heard throughout my life has gone against this theory but for no apparent reason. Now i have given you proof to substantiate my theory. So can anyone think of any objections or for that matter contributions to this theory?

thanks,
bill

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=126556

Say, do people generally prefer the hobbit jams or the wang jams of led zep?

It's all about the hobbit wang

Additional information in your recent ruling in the Robbie Williams and Jimmy Page case. It has come to my attention of possible new evidence and information that could have a bearing on the ruling, any appeal process. The committee may not have been aware that Robbie Williams has been playing loud 70’s rock music on outside speakers when he views Jimmy Page outside his home. What’s been most annoying is Mr. Williams has played rock arch rival bands Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd and Deep Purple. He obviously knows this upsets Mr. Jimmy Page. There have also been some reports that Robbie Williams has dressed up to imitate iconic Led Zeppelin front man and lead singer Robert Plant by wearing a long hair wig, and stuffing a pillow under his shirt in an attempt to mock or imitate Mr. Robert Plant beer belly that he has acquired in his older age. This is embarrassing to both Jimmy Page and Robert Plant, partially due to Mr. Plant was remembered for performing with his shirt open on stage, and obviously he can not perform in this manner in his current condition, as it would be very embarrassing. Thank you, Jonny

A playlist highlighting Zep hobbit jams and hobbit adjacent Zep:

And Then We Wind on Down the Road Goes Ever On
Immigrant Song 2:26
Over the Hills and Far Away 4:51
The Battle of Evermore 5:52
No Quarter 7:03

In the Light 8:48
Misty Mountain Hop 4:39
Ramble On 4:34
Stairway to Heaven 8:03

I thought about just packing side two with In the Light>No Quarter>Stairway but even Sauron needs a break.

Nah man, Sauron never sleeps. His Eye is always watching.

You would think so, but he let two hobbits stroll right up to his door and do everything but knock.

To be fair, they didn't come up to the main house but the burning trash fire in the back