Neil Young - Zuma

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Cortez The Killer 13
Barstool Blues 10
Don't Cry No Tears 7
Danger Bird 7
Pardon My Heart 2
Lookin' for a Love 2
Stupid Girl 2
Drive Back 1
Through My Sails 0


matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 11:09 (seventeen years ago)

barstool blues

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 11:10 (seventeen years ago)

YOU'RE JUST A STUPID GIRL
YOU REALLY GOT A LOT TO LEARN

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 11:42 (seventeen years ago)

I can't ignore Cortez - I can't even remember any of the other tracks!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:04 (seventeen years ago)

that is exactly why i should have excluded it.

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:07 (seventeen years ago)

cortez, what else. probably the greatest rock song of all-time.

alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:10 (seventeen years ago)

jesus christ you people suck. ok i already knew 'alex in mainhattan' sucked.

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:12 (seventeen years ago)

i don't get it. if you wanted to make a poll on zuma excluding cortez you should have excluded it.

alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:17 (seventeen years ago)

barstool blues > lookin for a love > don't cry no tears > danger bird > through my sails > cortez the killer > drive back > pardon my heart > stupid girl

x-post yah but i mainly thought it was for people who liked the album

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:18 (seventeen years ago)

i mean it's probably neil's most consistent album imo, so i just get a little exasperated when people are like omg cortez the killer because they've heard decade

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

'like a hurricane' on an american stars n bars poll i can understand.

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:25 (seventeen years ago)

Barstool Blues

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

neil's most consistent album

come on, you must be joking. "on the beach", "after the goldrush", "everybody knows this is nowhere", even "havest" and "ragged glory" beat the shit out of "zuma".

alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:57 (seventeen years ago)

"harvest"

alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:58 (seventeen years ago)

I dunno, this might be my favorite Neil record, but yeah, it's definitely not as consistent as others. Maybe if it was all Crazy Horse, it'd be a little more so. But throwing "Pardon My Heart" and "Through My Sails" (which are both great) make it a little more piecemeal than some others. I voted for "Barstool Blues" an insanely wonderful three minutes. Goes to show that Neil can be at his best when he's concise, too. But no need to get upset about people voting for "Cortez" -- that is an incredible piece of music.

tylerw, Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:00 (seventeen years ago)

Danger Bird- heavy, man

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

honestly, i would vote "Barstool Blues" over "Cortez" anyway

crackers is biters (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:40 (seventeen years ago)

This album is so awesome that even the CSNY blandness of "Through the Sails" works in context. "Drive Back" is my choice, for that RIFF. Nothing like this was hitting the Billboard Top 40 album chart in '75.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 25 January 2009 18:56 (seventeen years ago)

barstool blues.next.

Zeno, Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

one of the best sounding records i own. um, on vinyl that is. i've never heard the cd. just so fuckin' beautiful. i love the whole thing.

scott seward, Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:39 (seventeen years ago)

gonna get a dog, name her zuma.

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:42 (seventeen years ago)

"Don't Cry No Tears". Haven't we done this before?

Euler, Sunday, 25 January 2009 22:22 (seventeen years ago)

This is probably the Neil album that best showcases his ability as a guitarist, gorgeous production too. Went for 'Danger Bird'.

Gavin in Leeds, Sunday, 25 January 2009 22:57 (seventeen years ago)

barstool blues

I'm guessing bb and cortez will be 1 and 2

iatee, Sunday, 25 January 2009 23:02 (seventeen years ago)

Wow, I was just playing this yesterday and wondering what I would pick in a poll. And "Danger Bird" it is. This my favourite NY album.

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Monday, 26 January 2009 11:34 (seventeen years ago)

Must load into ipod tonight, but probably danger bird.

Dear Tacos, how are you? I am fine. The weather is nice. I miss yo (Oilyrags), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:52 (seventeen years ago)

Yes! a Danger Bird rally. Really though there are no losers on this fine album. On any given day I could pick just about anything. Oh yeah, Pardon My Heart-- what a great ballad.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:58 (seventeen years ago)

Lou Reed famously praised the guitar on "Danger Bird."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

This is pretty solid throughout.

Bill Magill, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

voting Pardon My Heart...Barstool Blues may be better, but for me it's reeeal close...it might be one of Young's best ballads...the way those Neil argues with those "You've-brought-it-all-on" call and response vocals, the way he argues with the song itself, the end where he loves the girl for the moments they have or haven't shared...it paints a very clear and detailed pciture of the path to closure after a relationship breaks down...(made all the more astonishing by being dropped into the middle of the cheeseburger paradise that is Zuma)...shows exactly why Neil is one of the best songwriters around.

seppuku toothbrush (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

"Danger Bird" juuuuuuuuust barely over "Barstool Blues".

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

oh man this is a good album

tylerw, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:21 (seventeen years ago)

saw him on sat night and tbh Cortez was the highlight of the show, with this repeated 'dancing across the water' refrain at the end....total chills down the spine. it's not normally my favourite on here (any one of the run from Pardon My Heart thru Barstool Blues usually is) but i might have to vote for it just for that performance.

dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 03:12 (seventeen years ago)

After relistening, I have come to the conclusion that my first impulse was correct - sometimes the obvious thing is the right thing, and just comes dancing across the water right at you.

Dear Tacos, how are you? I am fine. The weather is nice. I miss yo (Oilyrags), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:29 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 30 January 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

This is damn tough- I'll start with songs I wouldn't vote for: Stupid Girl, Drive Back, and Through My Sails (though I do dig these three as well.)

I guess I'll go with Lookin' for a Love just because it's a beautiful country-rock number and I'm afraid it won't get many votes.

ColinO, Friday, 30 January 2009 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

I can't believe anyone would consider Harvest better than this- for one thing, most of the best versions of the songs on Harvest are found elsewhere: specifically, A Man Needs a Maid/Heart of Gold and Old Man from Massey Hall. If I want to hear mellow Neil it's usually Massey Hall or Live at Sugar Mountain or the second half of On the Beach.

x-post to Alex

ColinO, Friday, 30 January 2009 18:25 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 31 January 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

Cortex the Killer is a tremendous guitar epic the likes of which Neil Young hasn't played in years.

Dan Landings, Saturday, 31 January 2009 01:06 (seventeen years ago)

Cortez is what I actually meant!

Dan Landings, Saturday, 31 January 2009 01:06 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

This is perhaps the wrong thread to revive but I can't find a better one for it. So anyway: any views on the Ducks? I listened to a show from here. "Your Time Will Come Around" and "Hold On Boys" seem to be Ducks originals, and are excellent; the latter in particular would have fit right in on Zuma. Also check out "Windward Pass", an 8+ minute instrumental with Neil in full liftoff throughout---but I think I also hear synths in the background, giving the song a beachy ambience suiting the song's title (a very Santa Cruz sound). It's gorgeous.

begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 15:39 (sixteen years ago)

it's an interesting little sidetrip, for sure. Neil's material is obviously head and shoulders above the other songwriters' stuff, but it's still cool to hear him play the role of a guitarist in a band -- he's a bit more versatile than you might think! The Ducks seem like an attempt to get some of the spirit of Buffalo Springfield going ... It is kinda too bad they didn't make a record, probably would've been cool. Wonder if they ever did any studio recordings?

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, I mean, I love Moby Grape, but "Mr. Soul" here just tears. Also: do you know if any of the three songs I mentioned were Neil's, or if not, whose were they?

Neil calls "Comes A Time" a Ducks original on the show too, which was interesting, at any rate.

begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:14 (sixteen years ago)

some funny details on their wiki page:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ducks

this recording is great, had never heard of this before.

mizzell, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:15 (sixteen years ago)

ha, kind of a cool little history there. I guess even if there aren't any studio recordings, Neil probably has at least a gig or two recorded in sbd quality in the archives. all of the circulating recordings are audience, right?

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:23 (sixteen years ago)

acc. to the Wiki page (and the related Thrasher's Wheat page), fans at the shows said they saw mobile recording units at some of the shows. So there's likely something in the archive.

begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

the duck calls in the crowd of this show is pretty hilar.

mizzell, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:27 (sixteen years ago)

The band focused on topics such as trucks, girls and bars.

lol

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:34 (sixteen years ago)

weird I don't remember any mention of this in Shakey but maybe I'm just forgettin

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:34 (sixteen years ago)

think it's sorta glossed over in a page or two ... wonder if they played Hey Hey My My? Blackburn is the co-writer ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:35 (sixteen years ago)

Plus great guitar sound/playing.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:02 (five years ago)

Young's gee-tar has never been mixed on an album to sound this crinkly and awesome

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:18 (five years ago)

Pretty sure every single solitary man of his generation has problematic beliefs about how to treat women.
“Stupid Girl” does not move me and I consider it filler but easy to skip/endure when every other song is good on the album.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:27 (five years ago)

Pretty sure every single solitary man of his generation has problematic beliefs about how to treat women.
“Stupid Girl” does not move me and I consider it filler but easy to skip/endure when every other song is good on the album.

Yep - hearty amen to that LL - Love Zuma and all the recent Neil live/archive releases & the horse has been the theme music for the 'Country Home' but when Zuma is on we make a show for skipping 'Stupid Girl'

BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:34 (five years ago)

I was thinking about "Through My Sails" and how, up to that point (it gets worse starting with Long May You Run), uniformly excellent Neil's songs are whenever he got together with CSN: "Helpless," "Country Girl," "Sea of Madness," "Ohio," "Through My Sails," probably a couple of others. I imagine--I'm sure others have suggested the same--Neil loved showing off, loved to remind them how much better a songwriter he basically was.

clemenza, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:53 (five years ago)

I could never love this record, I find the epics dull. My favourite extended Crazy Horse song is "Change Your Mind".
"Barstool Blues" would have been my pick from this one.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 00:32 (five years ago)

I tend to skip "Cortez...," yeah.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 00:45 (five years ago)

I don't object in principle to Neil playing three chords endlessly, but the song itself has to mean something to me.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 00:52 (five years ago)

If you don’t like the slow jams are you even listening to Neil Young?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 00:57 (five years ago)

"On the Beach" is more my speed.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:00 (five years ago)

also, technically it's three chords i guess but they are turned into quite the maze

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:01 (five years ago)

"Cortez" means everything to me, though I might have trouble explaining why.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:03 (five years ago)

Neil's slow ones are spookier than his quickies: "Running Dry (Requiem for the Rockets)," my god

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:04 (five years ago)

"On the Beach" is more my speed.

Not enough electric guitar.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:22 (five years ago)

Attempting to duplicate the atmosphere described in Shakey, two buddies and I about fifteen years ago tried the recipe for honey sliders at my place: honey, a little butter, lots of weed in a frying pan at low heat. We spooned the coagulated shit. It tasted like burned spaghetti. For fifteen minutes we condemned our stupidity. Then...holy shit. We couldn't move. The nicest low-hanging buzz.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:30 (five years ago)

I've been wondering if these archival releases will uncover a hitherto-unknown full reggae version of Cortez he laid down and then forgot about.

a sad robot dancing alone in the corner of a suburban disco (Matt #2), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:41 (five years ago)

now I imagine Tonight-era Bowie covering it in a reggae version.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:41 (five years ago)

Plus marimbas.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:45 (five years ago)

he came dancin' across da watah mahn

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:47 (five years ago)

Maybe as a duet with Iggy?

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:50 (five years ago)

Iggy from "Taxi" maybe.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:54 (five years ago)

A calypso version, even

a sad robot dancing alone in the corner of a suburban disco (Matt #2), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:55 (five years ago)

Guys, I'm going to bed soon, dreamlessly, I hope.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:57 (five years ago)

"On the Beach" is more my speed.

― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, March 23, 2021 8:00 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

so three chords is boring, but four chords is totally cool

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 03:37 (five years ago)

i personally don’t think the number of chords correlated to the quality of a song, but i digress

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 03:38 (five years ago)

I said I don't object to three chords.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 04:13 (five years ago)

"Cowgirl in the Sand" and "Change Your Mind" are based around the same two chords, but I find the latter more meaningful as a song, as a lyric and performance.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 04:19 (five years ago)

cowgirl in the sand has way more than two chords?

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 04:34 (five years ago)

Yeah the bridge/chorus has at least 5 iirc

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 10:54 (five years ago)

Yes, but at least half of each song is jamming on the same two chords.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 12:11 (five years ago)

They can’t all be “Roadrunner”!

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 12:13 (five years ago)

counting the number of chords used in a song strikes me as the absolute worst way to engage with music

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:27 (five years ago)

I still can't remember when
Or how I lost my way

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:50 (five years ago)

dume is def my favorite disc on archives 2 so far. never loved danger bird but at the same time a 7 minute doper jam fits so well right there in the 2nd slot, especially balancing out cortez at the end. the dume version of powderfinger probably works as a good replacement

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:08 (five years ago)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), my point was that the quality of Neil's songs isn't consistent with how many chords they have.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:22 (five years ago)

for real though, i remember the first time i heard "cortez," i thought the extended intro was like slowly pulling back layers of an onion or something, it was almost bewildering in its meandering raggedness, but obviously the feeling of the thing has a pretty direct and strong trajectory like almost everything neil did in the classic years.

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:47 (five years ago)

One thing that can be said in favour of songs based around a limited set of chords is that the form is highly conducive to improvised lead work. (John McLaughlin would doubtless disagree, but whatevs)

I Advance Masked (Vast Halo), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:59 (five years ago)

one year passes...

https://dangerousminds.net/content/uploads/images/made/content/uploads/images/neil_young_zuma_1975_465_240_int.jpg

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 02:59 (three years ago)

The best album ever.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 09:22 (three years ago)

The best beach ever.

henry s, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 15:32 (three years ago)

Santa Monica Beach is the location chosen by photographer Bob Seidemann for the cover of Neil Young's fifth album, “On The Beach ” which was released in 1974.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 16:14 (three years ago)

why the hell would you do that when zuma is like 10 miles down the road, lol. pure laziness? some money thing?

(grim) pump track (wales) (map), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 16:27 (three years ago)

On the Beach is a different album from Zuma

Josefa, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:25 (three years ago)

Only 70s Neil album I'm all that bothered about (and maybe Rust) and what is surely now one of my favourite album billboards.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 19:54 (three years ago)

On the Beach is a different album from Zuma

― Josefa, Wednesday, August 31, 2022 6:25 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

jesus, what a brain fart lol

(grim) pump track (wales) (map), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 20:13 (three years ago)

James Mazzeo, the Zuma (and other Neil projects) artist, passed away recently: http://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org/2022/08/james-mazzeo-1944-2022.html

tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 20:23 (three years ago)

Wow, that Zuma drawing looks great in color.

henry s, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 20:36 (three years ago)

RIP "Sandy" Mazzeo, one of the standout supporting players in Shakey

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 September 2022 00:15 (three years ago)

three years pass...

50 years, er, young today

tylerw, Monday, 10 November 2025 16:09 (six months ago)

Clearly it's time for him to re-record it with a different band and track list.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 November 2025 16:13 (six months ago)


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