Why are Suede releasing another album?

'dogmanstar' is still 1 of my favourites too, and for a good 3 years i was literally manchester's biggest suede fan (well, y'know give or take) must have seen them almost 20 times live, but really u have 2 wonder why they kept it up after 'coming up'. hearing 'head music' was 1 of the worst experiences of my music- listening life. no joke. maybe there's life in the old dog men yet.

the reviews in nme and other press of last year's iceland gig were *astonishingly* positive. the new album has cost 1,000,000 quid to make. u have to ask - who's *paying* for it ?

what really galls is that despite being better than pulp, blur et al they never had a stadium-sized tour like they all did, not even when britpop was at it's height. and they STARTED britpop.

fingers crossed tho eh ? i for one couldn't be happier if the new un is fantastic, but from what i've heard ('simon' off the dvd, 'positivity' and 'beautiful loser' off audiogalaxy) it's head music pt. 2.

oh ms. frischmann you got a lot to answer for.

Now, my stance: I run the Suede mailing list and have now for almost seven years, much to my surprise at points. I always thought that Dog Man Star was far too fragmented an album to be some perfect masterwork and still think that; its experimentalism is overrated and truly great songs for me rub up against timekillers throughout its length. If I have any preferred album it's Coming Up -- I know some people really have problems with Ed Buller's production on that one but to me it really comes across as a solid, perfect album, the first Suede had ever done. Head Music helps me confirm my belief that one need not pay attention to the lyrics. ;-) I actually think it's a stronger album than it's often given credit for, but the homemade collection of B-sides I put together from that time is the real winner, there were so many great songs in a variety of styles there that I had no doubt Suede could still pull it together as desired.

Which is where I stand with A New Morning, though I regard it with slightly cautious optimism. I actually thought Strangelove were pretty damn good (I don't get your Suede cover band comparison, frankly -- Patrick sounded nothing like Brett for a start), so Alex Lee makes an interesting addition and had already played with them before when Neil was unavailable. "Simon" as a song is a bit evanescent but it's grown on me. All this time and money spent is a bit odd; it's hands down the longest they've spent on any of the albums and a fair amount of the fans on the list were wondering about that. But a few folks have heard a number of the tracks via live recordings and other devious sources (not I, not yet at least!) and they're thinking it's all good...so we'll see!

Right now I'm more looking to them actually playing here live -- they haven't done that in over six years now.

'Dog Man Star' is, of course, poetic, pretentious, indulgent and awesome. I think it holds together perfectly as an album - you get the feeling of being taken through this gritty, low rent existence from track 1 through to 12.

The debut album puts first LPs by the more acclaimed likes of Oasis and The Strokes to shame. 'Pantomine Horse' is incredible.

It's strange they never indulged upon a stadium tour around the time of 'Coming Up' when their popularity was at least as big as 'Different Class' era Pulp.

'Head Music' broke my heart. It was shit and I didn't think much of the B-sides around this time either, save for 'Crackhead' and 'Since you Went Away' which were okay. Neither was 'High Rising' or 'My Dark Star' though. Listening to 'Positivity' and seeing Brett's new hair do I just see a sad, past it indie star singing rubbish with abysmal lyrics.

Wish they'd cal it quits.

Dunno if that's right or wrong. Pulp were certainly very big around the time of Different Class, but then you couldn't switch your radio on in mid 1996 without hearing Beautiful Ones or Trash.

Also - never did I say they were in a class with Suede or produced an LP anywhere near the vicinity of 'Dog Man Star'.

You my friend are what is known as 'a class A bum smell'.

only one google hit for "a class A bum smell"

Jesus Christ, who is that fuckwit?

Put his name into the search tool. He was the Turrican of his day.

He wishes.

turrican tbfttl isn't known for violent misogyny

Yeah, I mean there's no fucking way I would ever start a thread titled "If Marti Pellow agreed to put his entire head up Alison Moyet's bum for Comic Relief would you sponsor him?", for one - so I mean, he can just fuck off with that comparison.

he's done rather well for himself. It always amuses me when his name crops up on other boards or facebook from non-ilxors complaining about him yet are blissfully unaware of nicky wire in a banana suit