Apparently most if not all of them hit the Top 100. But lots of them, I swear I never even heard of before. Here is his list from 1976, in three parts (the first part is all instrumentals, he says):
Lee Oskar - BLTThe Band of the Black Watch - Scotch on the RocksBCG - Street TalkThe Glitter Band - Makes You BlindHagood Hardy - The HomecomingJohn Handy - Hard WorkSpin - GrasshopperMichel Polnareff - LipstickTom Scott - Town and CountryAndre Gagnon - Wow!Walter Murphy - Flight '76
Suzi Quatro - Can the CanSun - You Wanna Make Love (Come Flick my Bic)The Tubes - Don't Touch Me ThereEasy Street - I've Been Lovin' YouHead East - Love Me TonightGallagher and Lyle - Heart on My SleeveThe Hudson Brothers - Help WantedSherbet - HowzatPenny McLean - Lady BumpBlaze - Silver Heels
The Real Thing - You to Me Are EverythingYvonne Fair - It Should Have Been MeAttitudes - Sweet Summer MusicRay Sawyer - (One More Year of) Daddy's Little GirlFools Gold - Rain, Oh RainPrelude - For a DancerSundown Company - Norma Jean Wants to Be a Movie StarEllison Chase - Let's RockAmerican Flyer - Let Me Down EasyRick Derringer - Let Me In
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 21:23 (seventeen years ago)
1979 next (haven't been able to find his 1977 or 1978 lists, if they exist):
Call Out My Name - ZwolCan't Sleep - The RocketsCuba - The Gibson BrothersFor Love - Pousette Dart BandI Need You - Euclid Beach BandKiller Cut - CharlieKnow Her When I See Her - Cooper BrothersMirror Star - Fabulous PoodlesMistrusted Love - MistressNo Chance - Moon MartinI'm Not Gonna Cry Anymore- Nancy BrooksNo Time to Lose - Tarney Spencer BandOne Way Love - BanditSince You've Been Gone - Cherie and Marie CurrieStay the Night - Faragher BrothersYou and Me - Liner
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 21:25 (seventeen years ago)
1980, Part 1
Live Every Minute - Ali ThompsonTakin' It Back - BreathlessI Wish I Was 18 Again - George BurnsTrust Me - Cindy BullensReal Love - The CretonesLooks Like Love Again - Dann RogersWho Were You Thinking Of - Doolittle BandMirage - Eric TroyerMoney - The Flying LizardsI Love Women - Jim HurtLet Me Be - Korona
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 21:26 (seventeen years ago)
1981:
Shot in the Dark - Playing with LightningJoe Chemay Band - ProudShamus M'Cool - American DreamerSky - ToccataMcGuffey Lane - Long Time Lovin' YouMax Werner - Rain in MayLeon Redbone - SeducedLani Hall - Where's Your Angel?Yutaka - Love LightLarry John McNally - Just Like Paradise
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 21:28 (seventeen years ago)
1982:
The Clocks - She Looks a Lot Like YouShooting Star - HollywoodThe Monroes - What Do All the People KnowRichard "Dimples" Fields - If It Ain't One Thing It's AnotherThe Frank Barber Orchestra - Hooked on Big BandsCheri - Murphy's LawSparks - I PredictSpys - Don't Run My LifeToronto - Your Daddy Don't KnowRick Bowles - Too Good to Turn Back NowThe Waitresses - I Know What Boys LikeAurra - Make Up Your MindConductor - Voice on the Radio
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 21:29 (seventeen years ago)
"Let Me In" by Rick Derringer might be the worst thing I've ever heard him associated with. None of the things on the songs on 1976 part three sound any better than the things that were hits back then.
― mr. feeling better (james k polk), Monday, 16 February 2009 21:43 (seventeen years ago)
I duno, '76-wise, I agree with him on "Can The Can," "Howzat," and "Don't Touch Me There," at least.
Also, the Waitresses song is not "super obscure" in retrospect, I guess. (Must have turned more famous as the years went on.) Maybe "Money" by the Flying Lizards and a couple others, too. But not many.
Best band names I never heard of before: The Band Of The Black Watch, Doolitle Band, Shamus McCool.
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 21:47 (seventeen years ago)
Favorite songs I already knew from his later lists:
Can't Sleep - The RocketsCuba - The Gibson BrothersMirror Star - Fabulous PoodlesNo Chance - Moon MartinMoney - The Flying LizardsShooting Star - HollywoodRichard "Dimples" Fields - If It Ain't One Thing It's AnotherCheri - Murphy's LawThe Waitresses - I Know What Boys Like
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 21:50 (seventeen years ago)
(Actually, James K Polk may be right, since none of the three '76 songs I just said I liked -- or the Head East or Penny McLean ones either -- were from Part 3. Maybe he was really digging by then. Part 2 from that year looks pretty good to me, though.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 21:53 (seventeen years ago)
Those 1982 songs sound incredibly dated for 1982. I remember hearing The Clocks song before, I wonder if it is the reason Honeymoon Suite sounded familiar a year or two later.
I used to hear the Sparks song on college radio, and I saw the Waitresses song on VH1 Classic this Saturday. I remember the Spys and Toronto ones now too. Toronto is pretty good.
(I'm just listening to the years in random order)
― mr. feeling better (james k polk), Monday, 16 February 2009 21:55 (seventeen years ago)
1979
The Fabulous Poodles' first album was produced by John Entwistle, and according to Wikipedia, their third (1979) album sold more copies in America than the Clash.
First time I've heard them, but as a Who fan, the name stuck.
whoaH, my favorite Rainbow song done by Cherie Curie and her sister. (Russ Ballard -Since You've Been Gone)
― mr. feeling better (james k polk), Monday, 16 February 2009 22:07 (seventeen years ago)
Those 1982 songs sound incredibly dated for 1982.
UGH.
Everything is dated until a canon opens its arm to them and gives them the "timeless" tiara, rite?
(Sorry. "Dated" is such a sore spot for me in music discussion. It's an empty term to me, but that's my problem. Anyway...)
― System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 February 2009 22:20 (seventeen years ago)
I've alway thought this "shoulda been a hit" trope was illogical, and bad writing when used by critics. since when were the pop charts a meritocracy?
― m coleman, Monday, 16 February 2009 22:25 (seventeen years ago)
it's only bad writing if the writing was bad, no matter what angle it is.
And I think this angle has more potential for good writing than most. It may dance around the whole "what is a proper pop song?" question instead of lunge toward it, but at writing or youtubing about it *can* raise some interesting questions. (I'm at work and haven't been able to see the YouTubes, so I can't judge these specific YouTubes for that yet.)
― System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 February 2009 22:28 (seventeen years ago)
xp Agreed, but I don't think that guy's a critic.
And yeah, as I've said before, I've never really understood what "dated" means. It presupposes "newer sounding" stuff is better as a matter of principle, which is ridiculous. (But I don't think I want to get into that pissing contest all over again.)
As for the Fab Poos selling more in 1979 than the Clash, I was skeptical (the way I remember it, "I Fought The Law" got as much AOR play at the time as my beloved "Mirror Star" did), but the Poos' '79 album definitely charted a lot higher, it turns out -- #61 to #129. (Mirror Stars was their U.S. debut, but was their "third" album in the sense that it was a compilation of the first two U.K. ones, which didn't come out in the States. Title track went to #81 on the singles chart, whereas the Clash didn't even crack the Top 100 'til "Train In Vain.")
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 22:28 (seventeen years ago)
What I meant by it was something like "These songs probably didn't hit in 1982 because the sound more like major label offerings from 1979"
I understand what you are saying though.
― mr. feeling better (james k polk), Monday, 16 February 2009 22:29 (seventeen years ago)
if it's a hit in yr house then it's a hit. that said, some good songs listed. including some pretty big hits. I've been listening to LOTS of early 80s stuff lately and on one hand it sounds dated but OTOH i hear synth-pop and nu wave echoes when I eavesdrop on my kid listening to today's top 40.
― m coleman, Monday, 16 February 2009 22:31 (seventeen years ago)
been listening a bit to The Rockets lately, xhuxk, and I gotta say they sound better than they did at the time. but not especially 80s-ish, though.
― m coleman, Monday, 16 February 2009 22:33 (seventeen years ago)
Have only ever heard Bryan Ferry's cover of "Heart on my Sleeve"--great song.
― ellaguru, Monday, 16 February 2009 23:00 (seventeen years ago)
To explain more about what I meant by "dated", only because it is interesting to me. We are talking about a time period where major label A&R reps had ultimate control over a smaller band's material and production, and radio station programmers had control over them.
If you look at number ones from 1982, "I Can't Go For That", "I Love Rock 'N Roll", "Don't You Want Me", "Abracadabra", "Jack and Diane" etc. , you can see that the songs on this guy's "Should Have Been Bigger Hits" list are using production styles that seemed more likely to hit big on hold out rock radio stations, the near past, or nowhere at all, rather than early MTV and current top 40 of 1982.
I'm talking about before you get to the relative merits of the talent or song, there were production and promotional considerations involved with what became a big hit. (maybe these songs and bands just weren't as good as Saga and Quarterflash and I imagined they were dated at the current date that they were being manufactured and produced. I was just a kid then)
― mr. feeling better (james k polk), Monday, 16 February 2009 23:08 (seventeen years ago)
i count 30 people on those lists that i've owned albums by or currently own album by, so i must agree with this guy somewhat.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 February 2009 23:12 (seventeen years ago)
(and 17 of those albums come from that 1976 list. apparently, i am not the only person on earth with a hagood hardy album.)
― scott seward, Monday, 16 February 2009 23:15 (seventeen years ago)
"I Can't Go For That", "I Love Rock 'N Roll", "Don't You Want Me", "Abracadabra", "Jack and Diane"
i don't know much about production styles but these songs have big fat juicy HOOKS that most of the shoulda-beens don't. and I like some of the shoulda-beens BETTER'n these but it seems obvious why they hit #1. just typing the title "abracdabra" will put the chorus in my head and I HATE that fuckin' song. such is the power of pop.
― m coleman, Monday, 16 February 2009 23:19 (seventeen years ago)
but what i really want to know: are we human, or we dancer?
― m coleman, Monday, 16 February 2009 23:23 (seventeen years ago)
or ARE we dancer...
Well, for these songs, "bigger hits" doesn't necessarily mean hitting #1; it might just mean hitting #40 (or, in lots of cases, even #70). So maybe what you guys should be comparing them to is songs that topped off at #40 in 1982, not at #1.
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 23:26 (seventeen years ago)
I'll tackle the 1976 list first. I very much like funky "Street Talk," by BCG, i.e. the Bob Crewe Generation, i.e. Bob Crewe who produced the Four Seasons among many others. "Wow!" is also deliciously & funky - an all-time favorite, and "Lipstick" is the cool-sounding song from the movie of the same name starring Margaux Hemingway. "Lady Bump" is very cute - that's Penny McLean from Silver Convention. All of the above are not dated but rather state-of-the-art disco. But maybe that's why I know them & not the others on the list (actually I do know the Walter Murphy - that's the disco "Flight of the Bumblebee" I think).
― Josefa, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 00:04 (seventeen years ago)
^sorry about the grammar
― Josefa, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 00:05 (seventeen years ago)