In the Aeroplane Over the Sea Poll

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It seems to be called a modern day classic... Surprisingly this album has never been polled on ILM.

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
6. "Holland, 1945" 29
11. "Two-Headed Boy Pt. Two" 13
4. "Two-Headed Boy" 10
3. "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" 8
8. "Oh Comely" 8
9. "Ghost" 8
1. "The King of Carrot Flowers Pt. One" 8
2. "The King of Carrot Flowers Pts. Two & Three" 3
5. "The Fool" (Spillane) 1
7. "Communist Daughter" 1
10. (Untitled) 1


Bee OK, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 03:28 (seventeen years ago)

Torn between "Ghost" and "Untitled", will decide later

I want sprinkles (country matters), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 03:31 (seventeen years ago)

Kinda wishing they'd indexed (and structured) it so that "Untitled" was the coda of "Ghost", because the resulting paste 6-minute song would be some straight awesomeness

Although, it's true to say that "Ghost" reaches a climax from which it would almost be impossible and deeply wrong to continue under the auspices of the same song

I want sprinkles (country matters), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 03:44 (seventeen years ago)

"Ghost" it is.

I want sprinkles (country matters), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 03:45 (seventeen years ago)

daamn

k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 03:45 (seventeen years ago)

Title track for me!

Paul in Santa Cruz, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:00 (seventeen years ago)

Voted for Two-Headed Boy, Pt. Two. Incredibly hard to choose -- I relate to this album on a completely visceral level, and so my favorite track varies with mood. The album kind of reminds me of Nevermind in that the first half contains more immediately-enjoyable songs, whereas the second half gets better and better with repeated listens. I definitely would have voted for either the title track or Holland 1945 a few years ago.

i fuck mathematics, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:03 (seventeen years ago)

I can't fathom two-headed boy losing this

and how (PappaWheelie V), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:04 (seventeen years ago)

INDIE TITS! no, wait

TWO-HEADED BOY!

no, wait

welcome little swetty (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:13 (seventeen years ago)

I love you

PappaWheelie V, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:14 (seventeen years ago)

jesus christ

PappaWheelie V, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:14 (seventeen years ago)

O Comely=pretty epic

bear, bear, bear, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:15 (seventeen years ago)

oh comely is my least favorite song. ive listened to it so many times, it just doesnt do it for me anymore. it's between "king of carrot flowers pt 1", "two headed boy", "holland, 1945" or "two headed boy, pt 2" for me, but this is one of those "whole thing" albums

k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:21 (seventeen years ago)

this is one of those threads that won't get a lot of replies but a shit ton of votes imo...this basically is the definition of corny indie

k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:21 (seventeen years ago)

^^^^^^^

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:22 (seventeen years ago)

"Two Headed Boy". Is this corny indie shit? I don't give a fuck, I'm from Georgia.

Euler, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:23 (seventeen years ago)

i hope this album does get talked about in length because of this poll. this album seems to get bigger with each passing year and i think it deserves the acclaim. waiting to vote until i hear this album again this week.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:26 (seventeen years ago)

"the king of carrot flowers pts. 2 & 3" - am i the only one? it just rocks so hard.

aaron d.g., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:27 (seventeen years ago)

yeah i've gone through various phases during which each song was my favorite for a time, and "pts 2+3" is definitely a great song. i really love the "i love you jesus christ" part, i've always wondered what that could mean

k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:35 (seventeen years ago)

fuck it, i'll be that guy: king of carrot flowers, pt 1

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:37 (seventeen years ago)

actually iirc he said in an interview once that "jesus christ" was just a device he used to represent something that someone could love completely and without reservation, and it was supposed to show the feeling of comfort and security that people derive from that kind of love. (or something to that effect.) i like that interpretation

xpost to myself

k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:38 (seventeen years ago)

Holland 1945 is pretty tough to beat.

A few months before this came out, I went to see them on a double bill with Olivia Tremor Control. In one of the more regrettable musical decisions, I left after Olivia played, missing these guys entirely.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:44 (seventeen years ago)

worst album ever

that old joe diffie classic (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:49 (seventeen years ago)

that is meaningful tattoo

wilter, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:56 (seventeen years ago)

just found this on Wikipedia:

As of February 2009, it is ranked as the 53rd greatest album of all time on Rate Your Music.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:05 (seventeen years ago)

i will admit, great thread to troll

PappaWheelie V, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:09 (seventeen years ago)

i picked wrong. i would say Holland, 1945. the lyrics on that one actually make me teary a bit just thinking about them.

the table is the table, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:16 (seventeen years ago)

i would chris brown that chick if i saw her, no remorse

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:27 (seventeen years ago)

???

k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:33 (seventeen years ago)

w/ the tattoo - kidding of course, but seriously someone should've stopped her

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:34 (seventeen years ago)

^^ note reference to current events

welcome little swetty (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:37 (seventeen years ago)

use of "chris brown" as a verb on a neutral milk hotel poll thread is sort of ilm 2009 in a nutshell.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:38 (seventeen years ago)

i havent even heard this album fwiw but srsly

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:39 (seventeen years ago)

WAHT

the table is the table, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:40 (seventeen years ago)

ive heard songs, was turned off, idk

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:41 (seventeen years ago)

nice rack.

Leif.

Choose Leif, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:41 (seventeen years ago)

no, it's better this way

x-post

welcome little swetty (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:42 (seventeen years ago)

Leif.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:42 (seventeen years ago)

two headed boy

ciderpress, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:47 (seventeen years ago)

at one point it definitely would have been 'oh comely'. these days i'm leaning towards 'two-headed boy' or the title track.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:49 (seventeen years ago)

as far as tattoos go, i think that makes for a pretty good design. probably shouldn't be on a girl's arm though

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:50 (seventeen years ago)

like everyone else i thought this album was the greatest back in highschool but have since mellowed out on it and its sort of left my '90s indie' rotation now

still a good album tho

ciderpress, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:53 (seventeen years ago)

i voted for the title track, but at least 60% of this album is stone-cold classic.
it was my favorite album when i was a teenager.

ian, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:59 (seventeen years ago)

like everyone else i thought this album was the greatest back in highschool

LOL U YOUNG

akm, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 06:32 (seventeen years ago)

lol we old :-(

PappaWheelie V, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 06:34 (seventeen years ago)

I feel obligated to throw a tantrum about J0rdan's lol beating women up, wot laffs joke but really this meta-tantrum is all I've got the energy for, sorry J0rdan IOU one self-righteous tantrum about how beating women up really isn't an awesome subject for jokes

J0hn D., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 06:50 (seventeen years ago)

tantrum stipulated without objection

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 07:02 (seventeen years ago)

sorry guys

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 07:09 (seventeen years ago)

rain check accepted

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 07:12 (seventeen years ago)

have come around to a couple of songs via covers, but i still hate the dude's voice and pretty much hope he never comes out of retirement.

's ain't etienne (Roz), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 07:24 (seventeen years ago)

I like watching people on youtube cover "Holland 1945" or "The King of Carrot Flowers." It always lifts my spirits.

"Holland, 1945," "Communist Daughter," and "Oh Comely" is my favorite stretch. "The King of Carrot Flowers Pt 1" gets my vote, though.

nicky lo-fi, Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:49 (seventeen years ago)

thanks for the jpeg p.s. fuck the haters

mh, Sunday, 1 March 2009 01:12 (seventeen years ago)

i'm thinking every single song will get at least one vote. wonder if enough people voted to bring in over 100 total votes, results will be out very soon.

Bee OK, Sunday, 1 March 2009 19:37 (seventeen years ago)

Ugh, this is really, really hard. Mostly because this album actually does keeps on getting better and better after time, it amazes me everytime.

I think I'll ultimately go with "Holland, 1945". That 7" got me into them, and this record, and feels so enormously full of energy. But on another day, it could just as easily be be "The King of Carrot Flowers Pt. One", "Two-Headed Boy", or "Communist Daughter".

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 1 March 2009 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

Hello this is a shoutout to the song Engine.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Sunday, 1 March 2009 21:40 (seventeen years ago)

an album full of great songs. it's hard to pick just one.

Dan S, Sunday, 1 March 2009 21:58 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 2 March 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

Can't say I'm surprised, but it's very nice every song got at least one vote.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 2 March 2009 00:04 (seventeen years ago)

But fuck, Communist Daughter is way too low!

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 2 March 2009 00:04 (seventeen years ago)

can't believe I was the only communist daughter vote

iatee, Monday, 2 March 2009 00:07 (seventeen years ago)

I wish I had now ;_;

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 2 March 2009 00:08 (seventeen years ago)

someone plz make a joke about the Two-Headed Boy split vote

bitch hooligan, pussy ass nobrain dårk (country matters), Monday, 2 March 2009 00:09 (seventeen years ago)

90 votes, good job as always ILM. this was one of the better polls recently.

Bee OK, Monday, 2 March 2009 00:52 (seventeen years ago)

if u say so urself

wilter, Monday, 2 March 2009 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

"communist daughter" is too grand for only one vote.

nicky lo-fi, Monday, 2 March 2009 02:05 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

i listened to this for the first time in forever and man this is just pretty close to a flawless album, fuck the backlash or whatever. i can't help but sing along to every word.

terry squad (k3vin k.), Friday, 23 July 2010 04:57 (fifteen years ago)

j0rdan s would love "holland, 1945"

terry squad (k3vin k.), Friday, 23 July 2010 04:58 (fifteen years ago)

THE ONLY GIRL IVE EVER LOVED

terry squad (k3vin k.), Friday, 23 July 2010 04:58 (fifteen years ago)

i listened to this for the first time in forever and man this is just pretty close to a flawless album, fuck the backlash or whatever. i can't help but sing along to every word.

^ cosign

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 23 July 2010 05:05 (fifteen years ago)

Dear Ppl,

"Holland 1945" is one of the greatest songs ever written & sung. Seriously.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely yours,

drugs

― geir today, hongro tomorrow (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:40 PM (1 year ago)

this dude gets it

terry squad (k3vin k.), Friday, 23 July 2010 05:18 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, understand why it's annoying, maybe it was a bad influence on indie rock, very easy to see why people don't like it, but sorry, this album is still amazing.

You know what else is amazing is Bow Wow Wow "Jungle Boy".

Mark, Saturday, 24 July 2010 01:20 (fifteen years ago)

That's funny about the tattoo up there, I once dated this girl that wanted to get a tattoo of the record-player-airplane that's included in the art, I think on the CD itself.

Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 24 July 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

First time I ever heard the untitled jam I was like "Woah, wait a fucking minute here....this is amazing!"

Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 24 July 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

always preferred the first album

mizzell, Saturday, 24 July 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

Love "Song Against Sex" off Avery Island but can't top Aeroplane imo. Weird that I haven't listened to this in its entirety in years but happen to have it on right now.

I agree with thhe Holland 1945 love. Also - "Ghost".

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Saturday, 24 July 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

is that a birthmark on the tambourine in that tattoo?

▲NGELS & ▲IRWA▼ES (LOLK), Saturday, 24 July 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

I few years ago, I left my car window open in Philly with a bunch of CDs on the passenger seat and this is the only one that was stolen as far as I could tell. So, there's that. Also, I have a friend who got that record player airplane as his first tattoo at the age of like 23, and by 24 was pretending he hadn't listened to the record since high school. Bitches be fickle. ALSO, my freshman year of college this record absolutely devastated me and it stands as a document of a more innocent time and my first relationship and a million other new experiences I'm sure. So, I think it's pretty good. Would have voted two-headed boy, but I'm disappointed that Communist Daughter got so few votes. Semen stains the mountain tops, bros. Also, it's one of the more sonically interesting.

I live in Athens now and I keep asking people which Jittery Joe's Mangum recorded in and nobody seems to know. I want to see him walking down the street and just get it straight from the source, but I'm not sure I'd even recognize the guy if I saw him today. Julian Koster plays wiffle ball on Sundays. Everyone's invited.

Fellini.Kuti, Saturday, 24 July 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

Eek I hadn't noticed that tattoo before. That's pretty bad but at least it's well done. I am so so glad that I've had people around me smart enough to talk me out of the few music related tattoo ideas I've had over the years. I think they're generally a pretty bad idea.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Saturday, 24 July 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

fellini, it was the jittery joe's in 5 points off s milledge.

Moreno, Saturday, 24 July 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

worst album ever

― that old joe diffie classic (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:49 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

chuck entertainment cheese (crüt), Saturday, 24 July 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

fellini, it was the jittery joe's in 5 points off s milledge.

Oh man, that's kind of a bummer because they just moved out of that building. It's becoming a muffin shop or something I think.

Fellini.Kuti, Saturday, 24 July 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

Julian Koster plays wiffle ball on Sundays. Everyone's invited.

Julian is awesome, one of the nicest and most fun people I've ever met. I was a huge Music Tapes fanboy back in 2001 or so and after some E6 Christmas show at the Flicker I was flipping out because he invited us back to his place. We saw his studio, the clapping hands machine, the giant metronome, and ended up playing Red Rover in his backyard. He had a giant inflatable snowman and was telling us that the abandoned house next door was haunted so we explored it for a bit while getting wasted. Good timez.

I love visiting Athens but haven't been in a while. How is it out there? Still cheap living & lots of bars?

Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 24 July 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)

Also, I can't wait for Major Organ And the Adding Machine!

Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 24 July 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

Still cheap living & lots of bars?

Yessir

Fellini.Kuti, Saturday, 24 July 2010 16:44 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i gotta move back there one day. saw the truckers last night and got all home sick.

Moreno, Saturday, 24 July 2010 17:36 (fifteen years ago)

it was not the jittery joes in five points lol

balls, Saturday, 24 July 2010 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

what other jittery joe's would it have been??? sure as hell looks like it from the videos.

Moreno, Saturday, 24 July 2010 17:47 (fifteen years ago)

if Athens, GA is ever not cheap living & lots of bars then western civilization has failed

chuck entertainment cheese (crüt), Saturday, 24 July 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

they used to say that about Athens, Greece back in the day

chuck entertainment cheese (crüt), Saturday, 24 July 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

it was the joes on washington

balls, Saturday, 24 July 2010 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

ahhh. that one must have been closed by the time i got there.

243 W. Washington St

* Currently the bar The Max Canada, for much of the early 2000s this space housed the bar/music venue known as The Engine Room.
* In its multiple rooms, local bands performed - from the punk of Hunter-Gatherer to the rock of **** Volcanic to the jazz of the SS Puft Trio - and its late night dance parties were well-attended and long-running.
* Stand between the front-of-the-house pool tables and the windows, and you’ll fill the same space Neutral Milk Hotel’s Jeff Mangum did in 1997 when he recorded a live album when this location housed a Jittery Joe’s coffee shop.

Moreno, Saturday, 24 July 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

dudes, the jittery joe's in five points moved. it's a yogurt place now.

Fellini.Kuti, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:40 (fifteen years ago)

i wanted to re-post this as it was written today. hope this is OK stevie, as this post is amazing:

Pitchfork: The Top 200 Tracks of the 1990s: 20-01

Just to say a few words in defense of NMH...

I don't know how that album went down in the US when it was released, I've always presumed it was a modest, cult success. I remember seeing them support Olivia Tremor Control at the Garage in 1998, and being entirely blown away by them. In the context of those times, you didn't often see 8-piece groups with musical saws and hobbit-looking dudes playing tubas onstage, so that was remarkable. But there was something so joyous and unhinged about the performance, swinging hard between chaos and melody: I remember the drummer playing these crazily overloaded drum rolls that were so OTT he had trouble getting back into the rhythm of the song, but somehow it all held together. The songs were great, much better than those of OTC, and they had none of that group's antiseptic slavery to a single style and moment - NMH seemed gloriously alive by comparison.

I got the album, and loved it. I remember pushing hard to write about them while I was at Melody Maker, but was turned down, and told that others in the office thought they sounded like the panpipe group from The Fast Show. An editor at The Times was more understanding at let me write some end of year blurbs about them. I was pretty obsessed with the record, but in the UK, it just seemed to pass by under the radar. I was a pretty dedicated partisan for their cause, putting their songs on mix-tapes I made for friends. If I was interviewing a musician I thought would appreciate their music, I'd make 'em cassettes, most of which probably ended up discarded and unlistened on the floors of tourvans. But if that artist turned round and said they already loved the album, it was a pretty big thrill, and would often result in long discussions about the unheralded magic of NMH, this brilliant secret were were lucky enough to be in on.

I'm really not surprised that the album has enjoyed such acclaim in the years since it was released. The 'concept' behind the songs - that Jeff Mangum was so inspired by reading the Diary Of Anne Frank that he penned this album-length treatise of love'n'death/fantasy that he travelled back in time to try and save her - is both opaque and alluring, and, of course, makes for both good copy and at-length decoding by obsessive fans. Jeff Mangum's own subsequent non-career and silence, full of mystery and hints of tragedy, also makes for a great story - the doomed artist and his final folly, etc etc. It's an archetypal 'lost album', if you like. And you'd be crazy to deny its influence on indie groups (many of whom I detest) that have followed.

I still think its a marvellous record, though I don't play it often now, as I perhaps played it too much a decade or so ago. I can't deny that it still moves me today, when I do hear songs from it, and even a track as outwardly-ebullient as 'Holland 1945' remains affecting, not least for the poetry of Jeff's lyrics, and the sentiments and stories its telling.

― Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Friday, September 3, 2010 5:22 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark

Bee OK, Saturday, 4 September 2010 05:24 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

i just listened to this for the first time in about five years and it still does it for me, somewhat to my surprise. feels like i've been put through a wringer.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 22 November 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

this is going on at christmas time.

jumpskins, Monday, 22 November 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

ten months pass...

i listened to this for the first time in forever and man this is just pretty close to a flawless album, fuck the backlash or whatever. i can't help but sing along to every word.

― terry squad (k3vin k.), Friday, July 23, 2010 12:57 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

j0rdan s would love "holland, 1945"

― terry squad (k3vin k.), Friday, July 23, 2010 12:58 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

THE ONLY GIRL IVE EVER LOVED

― terry squad (k3vin k.), Friday, July 23, 2010 12:58 AM (1 year ago)

k3vin k., Saturday, 8 October 2011 04:58 (fourteen years ago)

me otm

k3vin k., Saturday, 8 October 2011 04:58 (fourteen years ago)

my answer is two headed boy pt 2 though, i get choked up still at "and in my dreams you're alive and you're crying" - such a genuine, affecting, and vivid turn, even for someone whose work is characterized by those kinds of things

k3vin k., Saturday, 8 October 2011 05:05 (fourteen years ago)

i haven't listened to this all the way through in a while. obviously a classic, and yeah, i think the last song is probably the best

markers, Saturday, 8 October 2011 05:10 (fourteen years ago)

I've tried really hard to get into this album but something just keeps pushing me away... the voice, the production and the lyrics irk me in some way or another which is really odd because normally I can bypass the things that make me cringe but this album is so attention demanding that it's impossible to ignore the little irksome details for me.

Either way I wont deny that I love the idea of this album and that I can appreciate it's ambition and cohesiveness as a casual listener. There's nothing quite like it out there. (Maybe Mt. Erie by the microphones? Another album which I've also tried to get into really hard but keeps pushing me away)

Moka, Saturday, 8 October 2011 07:23 (fourteen years ago)


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