Bel Canto and Cocteau Twins or something similar??

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3 songs that I am absolutely fixated on: Bel Canto "Unicorn" Cocteau Twins "Heaven or Las Vegas" Cocteau Twins "Ivo"

Has anyone heard of these 2 groups? What do you think of them? I can only describe them as "sublimely ethereal." These songs bore into my core....I LOVE them. I just can't get enough of them. Can anyone recommend some similarly entoxicating songs...preferably with this same angellic-trancelike ambience?

~Jamie

Jamie T, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Songs by those artists or by others?

"The Spanglemaker" has always been my favorite CT song.

paul, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Check out David Sylvian Brilliant Trees CD superb.

For some alternative indie funk rock check out www.theerratix.com

Falcon, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was sort of hoping for similar songs from other artists. Thanks for asking :)

Jamie T, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

This Mortal Coil - "Song to the Siren"
Dead Can Dance - "Host of the Seraphim"
Slowdive - "Alison"
Pale Saints - "A Thousand Stars Burst Open"
Lush - "Light From a Dead Star"

All except Slowdive were on 4AD records, the Cocteau Twins label, which is the best place to find "ethereal" stuff.

Curt, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

bien's ep on siesta.

keith, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

If you are really mad for Bel Canto, you might want to look into the solo works of Geir Jensson. He was one of the founding members of Bel Canto and did a lot of good ambient stuff in the 90's as Biosphere.

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mt, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Let me second that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

two years pass...
I always forget how eerie and amazing Bel Canto's "The Glassmaker" is. Very much out Cocteau-ing the Cocteau Twins.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 22 May 2005 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link

The Norwegian 90s band Velvet Belly were often compared to Bel Canto.

Also, Anneli Drecker has just released an excellent solo album, but the songs are considerably less "floating" and more pop oriented than what she used to do in Bel Canto.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 22 May 2005 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Yeah, Patashnik is a terrific album. Just listened to White-Out Conditions again too, it's much better than I remembered.

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 11:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Swallow were always called 4ad's coctequ twins replacement when 'Blow" came out. I can't remember how good it is but I liked it at the time.

keyth (keyth), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I used to listen to a public radio show called Echoes over a decade ago when I was in high school. I'm surprised to see it's still around on XM. At any rate, that's where I first heard and fell in love with Cocteau Twins, and they played a lot of similar stuff. They also played a lot of New Age-y bullshit, but there was definitely some wheat among the chaff. You can check out the recent playlists here, although I can in no way vouch for what kind of stuff they play nowadays.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

They still play Echoes on WXPN 88.5 here in Philadelphia, I think every night

They certainly play a lot of new age junk, I can't imagine them playing Cocteau Twins though??

Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess you're saying they played them in the 80s. Anyways, the host is always going on about "space music". I love a lot of "ambient" "drone music" or whatever, but with Echoes it's like they have this rule where they can only play the *absolute worst possible records*.

Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

"And now, music from some guys in space..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post

Well, like I said, this was 1995 or something. Maybe the show wasn't even that good back then, but I do know that driving around at night in the rural armpit town where I lived and listening to this show and occasionally hearing something like Cocteau Twins was a revelation. It was a gateway drug, if you will.

I found some more playlists here, but they only go back to '98. I've found links to older playlists, but they only work for me if I pull them up as cached pages through Google. But I did manage to confirm that Cocteau Twins used to be played.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

they play dungen:

http://www.echoes.org/playlists/0604C.html


i like the fact that they play stuff that i would never hear unless i bought it in a dollar bin 20 years later. which is how i listen to new age music.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i think that echoes is singlehandedly responsible for turning all of new age america on to dead can dance. but i could be wrong. they at least used to play some krautrock on the show. or at least newageofearth type of krautrock.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah I'm finding some decent selections here in these playlists, scattered around... Soft Machine, Terry Riley? Why don't I ever hear this shit when I turn on Echoes? It always sounds like some Stars of the Lid knockoff : \

Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Shellyan Orphan were also similar. That 4AD Swallow release was pretty good. So was Sub Pop's Swallow, an entirely different thing.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

It's funny how time changes our appreciation of things. I remember in the 90s knowing that Bel Canto supposedly made amazing, beautiful kinda music ... and I listened to it and thought to myself, "this is lame and cheesy."

Now that the late 80s / early 90s kinda thing has started to crop again, this stuff ain't so bad. I thought to myself, "is this another one o thems Swedish electro-pop revival things popular with the kids these days?"

burt_stanton, Friday, 5 December 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

On the more mimimal tip... Rhys Chatham "A Crimson Grail".. especially the first movement.

Gino-Vanellyville (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 5 December 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, obligatory Stars Of The Lid up-up

Gino-Vanellyville (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 5 December 2008 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link

and Windy & Carl, too

Gino-Vanellyville (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 5 December 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Cocteausy dream pop is a specialty of mine. I suggest (for starters):

aisth - mp3 tracks from their old website (10 of which are occasionally available on slsk)

Anymore - Thistlestar ep and Umani (guitar based, they discovered electronics and became Halou)

Autumn's Grey Solace - Within the Depths of a Darkened Forest, Over the Ocean, Riverine (suffers from the Projekt curse of anemic melody, but to a lesser extent than other Projekt dream pop)

Breath of Life - Sweet Party, Silver Drops (Belgian band overlooked by mainstream due to goth background. Their vocalist is extraordinary.)

Collection d'Arnell-Andrea - Les Marronniers and Villers-Aux-Vents (Février 1916). (French, with strings, and the later album is the only great album about The Great War.)

Elysium - Glisten (one off on Brant of the old 4ad-list's label. Autumnal.)

Orange - Orange (the other great Brant label release. A rare vocalist that matches Liz Frazier's jazzy fluidity.)

Perfume Tree - The Sun's Running Out, A Lifetime Away (Vancouver dubby dreampop, a bit like Seefeel with a melodic sense. "Virgin" off A Lifetime Away is one of my very favorite tracks, ever.)

Where I've omitted album by artists above its because they were incompletely formed, or subsequent to a drift out of the dream pop genre.

derelict, Friday, 5 December 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

six years pass...

Anneli Drecker's new album is just lovely, even if it makes me feel like I'm listening to a soundtrack for the Lord of the Rings at times.

Tim F, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link

Talk about someone who might as well have been on it! Hell they got Liz Fraser after all.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

Perhaps I really should have said "possibly because it makes me feel like..."

Tim F, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2mxdXpbGCw

(Maybe I'm being too influenced by the comments.)

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link

eight years pass...

New album is good. Close your eyes and 'Can of Worms' could almost fit onto ‘Heaven or Las Vegas'.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 28 April 2024 15:43 (two weeks ago) link


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