TS: Sleep's Dopesmoker vs. Electric Wizard's Dopethrone

Dopesmoker easy. Dopethrone always seems like it can't decide between stoner epic and discrete stoner tunesmithing. The former has its mind made up.

Would vote for Holy Mountain over either of these though tbh.

I definitely play EW Dopethrone more - and that's reason enough to get my vote.

Dopesmoker, although I think I like Conference of Birds more than either.

^yea for a second i thought it was 'holy mountain' vs. 'dopethrone'. in which i'm not sure what i'd vote for. no question tho that 'holy mountain' >>>>> 'dopesmoker'

i have to disagree with hoos tho and vote 'dopethrone.' the riffs are better. i actually think 'dopesmoker' is a little overrated, maybe due to the re-issuing/label dispute/general stoner lore about the recording of the album/it's fucking amazing cover. (ha tho i suppose the same could be said for 'dopethrone.')

xpost - i'd take any OM album over either of these.... have we had this conversation before? was there an EW vs Sleep thread a while back?

i want to love 'dopesmoker' b/c it is so epic, but i just feel it drags on. i listen to EW dopethrone far more often, and i think i've made it through 'dopesmoker' only a couple of times before i put on something else

Yes! xpost

Music along the lines of Sleep (Dopesmoker) or Electric Wizard (Dopethrone)

Not so much a "vs" thread, though, as a recommendations thread that quickly died out.

i want to love 'dopesmoker' b/c it is so epic, but i just feel it drags on. i listen to EW dopethrone far more often, and i think i've made it through 'dopesmoker' only a couple of times before i put on something else

otm

sleep is boring

there I said it

TS on the covers:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/Sleep-dopesmoker.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dopethrone.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a2/Dopethrone.jpg

wait i thought there was a bong on the sleep cover too

sleep is always better than e-wiz, so dopesmoker.

Dopethrone totally smokes the competition

seriously though. fuckin brutal album

sleep are fine, it's Om that are boring as all get out.

ur crazy dude

yeah that's mental

i'll take this under advisement. thanks.

sleep

"jerusalem" > "dopesmoker" btw

sleep is boring

there I said it

― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, March 4, 2009 3:20 PM

i'll second this. it's not even remotely close for me.

Nobody beats the Wiz.

Wizard!

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I preferred the title "Jerusalem" to "Dopesmoker"

there I said it

Am listening to Jerusalem now in honour of this thread.

"jerusalem" > "dopesmoker" btw

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, March 5, 2009 1:57 AM

why is that

or do u just mean title

all kinds of challops in this thread

or more accurately, two or three kinds of challops repeated over and over

i dunno, i just like it better

dopethrone in a walk

you guys are serious about this

wow

i think dopethrone vs. holy mountain would have been a more compelling poll actually

I like Dopethrone more as an album, but I'm always way more happy when EW tunes come up in shuffle.

There, I said it. (About my non-challop.)

Also, I remember buying weed from a dude in a parking lot with Dopethrone blaring, his eyes red and beard wild, everything wet from recent rain and empty around us. It seemed like one last outpost of insanity and cool. (As per usual, the album that I have more positive memories associated with wins, because I make no real pretense toward objective evaluation of the albums.)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

I downloaded Dopesmoker based on the praise in this thread. It doesn't hold a bong to Dopethrone.

you guys are serious about this

wow

i mean, i picked 'dopethrone,' but it's not like it was so obvious to me! and for those who picked sleep, they can't think these albums are that different! which one did you pick??

I downloaded Dopethrone based on this thread, and while great I don't think it's as good as Dopesmoker, so Dopesmoker it is.

when was Dopesmoker recorded?

'99, but it didn't get a proper release until 2003.

What's shocking is everyone saying they like Holy Mountain better than either. I listened to that one a few times and it was way too dull for anything more than that.

Dopethrone, btw. But Sleep's rhythm section on Dopesmoker is pretty astonishing.

What's shocking is everyone saying they like Holy Mountain better than either. I listened to that one a few times and it was way too dull for anything more than that.

Dopethrone, btw. But Sleep's rhythm section on Dopesmoker is pretty astonishing.

― Ivan, Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:47 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark

agreed -- dragonaut is a killer jam, but i cant really remember any others in particular at the moment... theres a bluegrassy lil thing?

I've always struggled with listening to holy mountain as well... besides dragonaut, yeah.

usually I'm like, "well, they took things as far as they possibly could with jerusalem/dopesmoker, why listen to holy mountain?" but I heard jerusalem first, so maybe that's a factor.

I like both albums a lot but I'll take the jerusalem ver. of the sleep album over dopethrone. I listen to jerusalem a bunch at work too. perfect for blocking out all distractions and zoning out.

Good call, great music for repetitive tasks while at work.

OK, first of all, Dopethrone is not the best Electric Wizard album, Come My Fanatics... is. Dopethrone has the best cover art, but cover art and music are two different things.

Second of all, Sleep are boring, yes, but nowhere near as boring as Om. I can't even convey in words how boring Om records are, because as soon as I put one on to try and describe it I thuee;aubhwo846y (sorry; passed out, head hit the keyboard, ha ha...you get the idea. Boring, boring, boring).

i mean, i picked 'dopethrone,' but it's not like it was so obvious to me! and for those who picked sleep, they can't think these albums are that different! which one did you pick??

Dopesmoker. Electric Wizard are the less interesting version of Sleep.

The Druid, Aquarian, and Evil Gypsy in particular are all some cotdamn jams

maybe ill listen to it tomorrow

OK, first of all, Dopethrone is not the best Electric Wizard album, Come My Fanatics... is.

see i hate both of these so i think dudes are just not the band for me

holy mt. rules but suffers from shitty mixing/mastering

part of its charm imo

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

aggggggggh

holy mt. rules but suffers from shitty mixing/mastering

― eman, Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

part of its charm imo

― czech blastcore and superHOOS culture (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:37 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

kinda like venom in that respect

waht

re: results, not venom comment

part of its charm imo

― czech blastcore and superHOOS culture (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:37 PM

imco = in my challenging opinion

haha fair enough

the fact that dopesmoker lost just proves it is better, it is more udnerground u see

OK, first of all, Dopethrone is not the best Electric Wizard album, Come My Fanatics... is.

TRUE! CMF is so good. love the production, love that you can hear everything in the recording room VIBRATING when just the guitar is playing...

To be fair, I've loved Dopesmoker for years but voted for Dopethrone after two spins the other week. Given another chance I'd vote for Dopesmoker, which would tie the poll at 22 apiece. So whatever

!

the fact that dopesmoker lost just proves it is better, it is more udnerground u see

^^ yessss, do you see

hah

Surprised but glad here! Both are fucking jams.

indeed. fuck the electric wizard haters

not sure i really get sleep, ive only got holy mountain and it just made me think of a druggier nirvana. Is dopesmoker the one to pick up?

Yes, it's amazing.

these albums are like the metal versions of In The Airplane Over The Sea

what does that mean

"Airplane"

Neutral Milk Motel

ambitious circa 1998-2000 albums that were kind of ignored when they came out, but have gone on to get extra life as culty, significant, genre-defining phenomenon passed around through word of mouth (and internet), reaching lots of dilletantes and outsiders in the process.

not saying it pejoratively, btw. just kind of a similar stature for a metal album

the thing i like about Dopesmoker is that, when you get to the end of it, the riff has become an integral part of your mindspace, impossible to shake. You've become more riff than man. And really, doesn't that make it the destination to which humanity has been heading since our forefathers created the very first riff? Is that not the ultimate goal?