songs/music i.g. whose perception has been changed through use in film/s

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Chungking Express changed my perception of
Mamas & The Papas - california dreamin

meisenfek, Friday, 13 March 2009 09:42 (sixteen years ago)

couple of great tunes in that movie anyway (Dennis Brown)
i think it's my favourige Wong Kar-Wai.

also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Dreamin%27_(film)
interesting Romanian movie.

i can't think of an example for the thread though.

Ludo, Friday, 13 March 2009 10:23 (sixteen years ago)

I can't hear Everything In Its Right Place without thinking of the opening of Vanilla Sky.

And Where Is My Mind?, of course.

nate woolls, Friday, 13 March 2009 10:28 (sixteen years ago)

Roy Orbison's "In Dreams" - forever associated with this:

what happened? I'm confused. (sarahel), Friday, 13 March 2009 10:42 (sixteen years ago)

Stuck in the Middle with You, obv.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 13 March 2009 10:42 (sixteen years ago)

All songs from Children of Men STK

mothra juggs and speed (los blue jeans), Saturday, 14 March 2009 03:23 (sixteen years ago)

I mean when I saw it I imagined what I would feel about that song in 20 yrs

mothra juggs and speed (los blue jeans), Saturday, 14 March 2009 03:24 (sixteen years ago)

King Crimson and Guernica as the work of creative geniuses?

what happened? I'm confused. (sarahel), Saturday, 14 March 2009 03:31 (sixteen years ago)

Not from a film, but Bob Seger's "Like A Rock" song used in the Chevy truck commercials years ago. Every single time I hear that song, I think of those tv commercials.

van smack, Saturday, 14 March 2009 03:58 (sixteen years ago)

'Sussudio', probably.

Hell, this ruined 'Hip to be Square' for me too.

Millsner, Saturday, 14 March 2009 04:07 (sixteen years ago)

^^This is the most positive experience I've had listening to Sussudio.

what happened? I'm confused. (sarahel), Saturday, 14 March 2009 04:09 (sixteen years ago)

TV, not Film, but I do think "Don't Stop Believin'" on the Sopranos, especially as it seems to have happened on such a large scale.

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Saturday, 14 March 2009 05:00 (sixteen years ago)

Hang on Sloopy always makes me think of strippers after seeing People vs. Larry Flynt

Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Saturday, 14 March 2009 05:10 (sixteen years ago)

Sister Christian in Boogie Nights. the firecrackers.

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Saturday, 14 March 2009 05:19 (sixteen years ago)

Sister Christian in Boogie Nights. the firecrackers.

oh yes. and the second song when the trouble starts, jessies girl - Rick Springfield

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rEgPZZmjwg4/R0tEESIu4fI/AAAAAAAAAno/BjM1x79dunY/s320/alfred+molina.jpg

Roy Orbison's "In Dreams" - forever associated with this

a lot favorites here.

meisenfek, Saturday, 14 March 2009 20:39 (sixteen years ago)

i can't hear Kenny Rogers & The First Edition's "Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Was In)" without thinking of "Gutterballs"

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Saturday, 14 March 2009 20:46 (sixteen years ago)

John Phillips' "Malibu People" & The Byrds' "Citizen Kane" = Ciao! Manhattan

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Saturday, 14 March 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)

Casino
The Animals - house of the rising sun

especially the part with Ginger McKenna aka Sharon Stone @3:02

meisenfek, Saturday, 14 March 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

I love this thread. Music can add (or detract) so much to a film, and films can completely change the meaning of a song forever. One that comes immediately to mind is "Mad World" from Donnie Darko. I don't know how to post the youtube video (can anyone tell me?), but the link is

If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it...

Dan S, Saturday, 14 March 2009 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

Fantastic obviously but...brr.

piscesx, Saturday, 14 March 2009 21:10 (sixteen years ago)

This scene made me forget all about ever hearing the Blues Bros version:

(And yeah, GoodFellas/Layla coda.)

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 14 March 2009 22:16 (sixteen years ago)

It's impossible for me to separate these, too:

Millsner, Sunday, 15 March 2009 03:39 (sixteen years ago)

^ also Wagner's "Ride Of The Valkyries"

van smack, Sunday, 15 March 2009 04:07 (sixteen years ago)

I now associate stomping people in the face with Atlantis, and vice versa.

Cunga, Sunday, 15 March 2009 04:46 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/images/pics/cusack2.jpg

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 15 March 2009 13:46 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, hearing "Hurdy Gurdy Man" in Zodiac completely changed my opinion of it from the sweet unsinister bubblegum whimsy that the Butthole Surfers did such a twee cover of.

Linseed Oil is maximum, and that's the law (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2009 14:07 (sixteen years ago)

Completely OTM about 'Hurdy Gurdy Man'. These two have never been the same for me:

Come to think of it, I saw the movie young enough that it was probably the first time I'd heard either.

Millsner, Sunday, 15 March 2009 15:58 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.kissatlanta.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/_gallery-blog_image_Head-In-Hands-3.jpg

Linseed Oil is maximum, and that's the law (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2009 16:03 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, horrible example because it doesn't really subvert or challenge either of them.

Millsner, Sunday, 15 March 2009 16:07 (sixteen years ago)

"Lust For Life"

Maltodextrin, Sunday, 15 March 2009 17:06 (sixteen years ago)

Good one, yes. Trainspotting ended up associating that song with heroin, didn't it?

Linseed Oil is maximum, and that's the law (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2009 17:07 (sixteen years ago)

Labyrinth completely altered my perception of "Cracked Actor".

Linseed Oil is maximum, and that's the law (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2009 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

sister ray from Brick (though it more transformed my perception of the movie I had just watched)

sing everybody deutsche deutsche (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 15 March 2009 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

"Hurricane" in Dazed and Confused, for me at least.

f f murray abraham (G00blar), Sunday, 15 March 2009 17:50 (sixteen years ago)

StanM, Sunday, 15 March 2009 17:59 (sixteen years ago)

I'm still not happy that God Only Knows is used at the end of Love Actually.

Popture, Sunday, 15 March 2009 18:14 (sixteen years ago)

You should write a strongly-worded letter to the Daily Telegraph.

Last Exit to Steve Brookstein (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2009 18:15 (sixteen years ago)

That said, "Wouldn't It Be Nice" in Roger & Me.

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 15 March 2009 18:35 (sixteen years ago)

in bull durham, tim robbins singing "try a little tenderness" as "women get woolly, yes they get woolly ..." -- makes it hard for me to hear the original with a straight face.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 15 March 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, hearing "Hurdy Gurdy Man" in Zodiac completely changed my opinion of it from the sweet unsinister bubblegum whimsy that the Butthole Surfers did such a twee cover of.

haha. a friend's facebook status update not long ago was, "was hurdy gurdy man always creepy or did zodiac make it seem that way?" i cited the b.s. cover as evidence of latent always-creepiness.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 15 March 2009 18:39 (sixteen years ago)

Donovan's stoner voice is so thick and he delivers the song so sluggishly and joylessly it's never been anything but some kind of drug nightmare.

Last Exit to Steve Brookstein (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2009 18:43 (sixteen years ago)

a lot of Donovan's music has a slightly creepy quality. I think part of the reason is his voice.

Dan S, Sunday, 15 March 2009 18:47 (sixteen years ago)

yeah Donovan might be the king of this thread...I'm pretty sure if I had heard "Atlantis" before seeing Goodfellas it would have drastically changed my impression of that song.

sing everybody deutsche deutsche (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 15 March 2009 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

it = that movie

sing everybody deutsche deutsche (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 15 March 2009 19:01 (sixteen years ago)

"Hurricane" in Dazed and Confused, for me at least.

Came here to post that. Best "walking into a bar" music ever.

NotEnough, Sunday, 15 March 2009 19:14 (sixteen years ago)

oh yes. and the second song when the trouble starts, jessies girl - Rick Springfield

My first thought when I opened the thread.

The strange thing is that I don't even like PT Anderson's films, and this particular scene was just ridiculously long and boring. Except that I couldn't forget the music that was playing, which probably means that the scene had the intended effect on me and I shouldn't be complaining, I don't know.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 15 March 2009 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

Ravel's Bolero in Ten
Strauss' Also sprach Zarathustra in 2001: A Space Odyssey

StanM, Sunday, 15 March 2009 20:01 (sixteen years ago)

My Best Friend's Wedding has spoiled 'I Say a Little Prayer' forever.

sonofstan, Sunday, 15 March 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

probably the classic example would be "Singin' in the Rain" in Clockwork Orange.

what happened? I'm confused. (sarahel), Sunday, 15 March 2009 20:56 (sixteen years ago)

[High Fidelity]
― paper plans (tipsy mothra),

music in general?

meisenfek, Monday, 16 March 2009 09:43 (sixteen years ago)

Ah, Wikipedia never fails:

"What a Wonderful World" was used ironically in 1978 radio broadcast of the last episode of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (first series). The song replaced the usual end credits as the two main characters, stranded on pre-history Earth, lament its destruction witnessed in the first episode. The song was later used for the closing titles of the corresponding television episode, and in the first teaser for the Hitchhiker's film, lasting only one stanza before the Earth explodes.

A part of the song was used in The Runner (Davandeh), a famous Iranian movie. It was included in the soundtrack for the film Good Morning, Vietnam in 1987, and, thanks to its newfound exposure in the film, it landed at #1 in Australia, becoming Armstrong's biggest hit there. In the film, the song plays over a montage of bombings and other violence (similar to the use of the song "We'll Meet Again" in the film Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb). This use of the song in an ironic way has since become something of a cliché in film and television. Its use in Good Morning, Vietnam led to its eventual use in yet another Vietnam War themed fiction, Tour of Duty.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 08:26 (fifteen years ago)

Not a film but "Wash Away" by Joe Purdy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkYpeN-9I-0

margana (anagram), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 08:40 (fifteen years ago)

"Nowhere to Run" at the 3:33 mark (number of the half-beast)--still remember how thrilling this was when I first saw it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3xTKRIj-xQ&feature=related

clemenza, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 11:24 (fifteen years ago)

Already mentioned but "Singin in the Rain" and "Stuck in the Middle With You" pretty much changed forever with Clockwork Orange and Reservoir Dogs...

Also; "Born Slippy .NUXX" will always be associated with Trainspotting...

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ziwr4f5eR0M

jaymc, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)

This doesn't strictly fit the thread--as my introduction to the song, it established my perception, not changed it--but it is an inspired juxtaposition. And, along with a couple of other possibilities, my nomination for the three greatest filmed minutes of pop music ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVIA1vqQfb8

clemenza, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

Also; "Born Slippy .NUXX" will always be associated with Trainspotting...

I know it came out in 1995 (that's when I first heard it), but I assume most people didn't hear it until it was featured in Trainspotting, so its perception didn't really "change" with the film. Or did it get a lot of airplay in the UK before Trainspotting? It certainly didn't here. IIRC it wasn't even included on the first printing of Second Toughest in the Infants, only after it became a hit due to the film did they add an extra disc to the album with "Born Slippy" and "Rez" on it.

Tuomas, Thursday, 7 October 2010 06:22 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Had a radio encounter yesterday that made me realize I've almost done a 180 on a song thanks to a film. I wouldn't say I used to hate Three Dog Night's "One," but it always seemed draggy and heavy-handed; it was a song I'd automatically switch off. When in came on yesterday, I immediately thought of the opening panorama from Zodiac, with all the 4th of July festivities lighting up the sky, a kind of slow-motion dreaminess (but scary, too--the first killing has already taken place) that is now inseparable for me from "One."

clemenza, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:21 (fifteen years ago)

I hate to break it to you but that song isn't in Zodiac

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

you are thinking of "Easy to be Hard"

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:27 (fifteen years ago)

Aargh! Thanks--that's what I heard yesterday. Everything I wrote above applies, just had the title wrong. (May have had Magnolia on the brain, which I watched again recently.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:29 (fifteen years ago)

lol no worries - for a second I was totally confused as to why I had never noticed "One" (which I know from the Nilsson version) in the opening before

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

My perception of Donovan has been changed via a whole bunch of films: "Atlantis" in Goodfellas, "Colours" in The Limey, "Jennifer Juniper" in Election, "Season of the Witch" in To Die For, "Jersey Thursday" in Rushmore, and "Hurdy Gurdy Man" in Zodiac. I used to think he was a good pop-folkie who was primarily worth remembering for "Mellow Yellow" and "Sunshine Superman." Now I think he's godlike.

thank you for bringing all those together into one post!

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)

needs "Three King Fishers" imo

WAKE UP SHEEPLEY (crüt), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)

^?

worst thing about The Girl Next Door = the director baldly willing to steal "Atlantis" and "Jump Into the Night" from Goodfellas.

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

"Jump Into the NightFire"

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

^ was gonna say

there is a song that i initially loved, then liked, then got tired of, but still retained some affection for. a few years down the road, they put it in that watchmen movie and it suddenly became the most awful, horrible, cringe-inducing thing in the world. i don't know that i'll ever be able to listen to it again. the power of film.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

Gawd I hated that Watchmen movie, but I still love the comic...it's weird how they can get everything so precisely and still flub tone SO badly!

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

I HATED "Don't Stop Believing" until I finished the Sopranos and now every time I hear it I get a little anxious and my heart rate speeds up and I get this sensation of "Oh my god, something is about to end"

Shallots Are As Good As Joyce Brothers (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

a few years down the road, they put it in that watchmen movie

lol don't remember them doing this so glad I never saw this abortion of an idea for a movie

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:52 (fifteen years ago)

^right, my point was that the movie was so bad I was lucky it didn't ruin the comic for me...

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

Gawd I hated that Watchmen movie, but I still love the comic...it's weird how they can get everything so precisely and still flub tone SO badly!

― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, October 27, 2010 3:51 PM (4 hours ago)

otm. for clarity's sake, the song i mentioned isn't nilsson's "jump into the fire" (which i loved at first and will love forever, no matter what, and isn't in watchmen anyway), but leonard cohen's "hallelujah". zack fucking snyder ruined it for me, finishing the job that jeff buckley started years before.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

but leonard cohen's "hallelujah". zack fucking snyder ruined it for me, finishing the job that jeff buckley started years before.

― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:13 PM (1 hour ago)

haha was just going to post this exact same thing!!

sarahel, Thursday, 28 October 2010 04:41 (fifteen years ago)

The use of "Magic Bus" in Goodfellas didn't change my perception of the song so much as it was the perfect illustration of the greatness of the Who's sound (particularly live):

They always sound like they're about to get into a huge accident, but they always avoid it in a heart-stoppingly dramatic fashion.

Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 28 October 2010 06:33 (fifteen years ago)

Similar to previous post: not transformation, but a rescue mission for something I'd heard a million times and had confined to classic-rock purgatory--such a perfect illustration of the song, it may as well have been specifically commissioned for the film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrxQvni2xXM

clemenza, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)

^ totally agree with this. one of the most perfect fusions of pop and image in recent film. gave the song back its glamour (for me, anyway).

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

Also brilliant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSRmWTeSDng

clemenza, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

probably the classic example would be "Singin' in the Rain" in Clockwork Orange.

― what happened? I'm confused. (sarahel), Sunday, March 15, 2009 4:56 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I really agree with this post. Clockwork Orange is what i think of when I hear this song.

dressed up better than anyone within a mile (Bill Magill), Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

not quite the same thing, but any time I think of Rushmore, I always think of The Who's "A Quick One" (also see: Bottle Rocket + Seven and Seven Is)

captain extra tomato (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRoRo5mUV5o

daavid, Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)

Music in movies is basically the worst thing ever. I used to like a lot of these songs until I saw the movies and now they're all completely fucking ruined. Same with using music in commercials too. Who can listen to all those classic Motown songs anymore without thinking of the California Raisins? Who can listen to "Stuck in the Middle with You" without thinking of that torture scene in Reservoir Dogs? If I was a millionaire songwriter and Quentin Tarantino came up to me said, "I'll give you a shitload of money to use your song in my next movie, but from here on out, nobody will ever be able to treat your song seriously ever again." I'd tell him to fuck off.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

I never think about the California Raisins tbqh

Motown is more likely to remind me of the Big Chill lol. or maybe the Commitments

Great Goulessarian! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

also lol at idea that DEEP THINKING PIECE OF ART "Stuck in the Middle With You" was ever intended to be taken "seriously". if anything the song has MORE nuance/meaning to me now because of it's filmic association.

Great Goulessarian! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

As Pete Townshend said, "Is your perception of 'I Heard It Through the Grapevine' so shallow that it's violated by dancing raisins?"

(Granted, he was trying to justify his own selloutery, but he's got a point)

Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

Yes!!

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:27 (fifteen years ago)

I thought that asking artist's permission was a kind of courtesy, that if they were willing to pay whatever performance/mechanical licenses, they could do whatever they want with your song, at least in US? I can't imagine the conversation between Johnny Knoxville, Spike Jonze, and The Minutemen.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

I can't imagine the conversation between Johnny Knoxville, Spike Jonze, and The Minutemen.

I dunno why not it's not that hard to imagine - skaters have a long and storied history with LA punk that dates back to at least the late 70s, it's a pretty no-brainer connection. I think it's awesome that they basically funnelled a bunch of money to Mike Watt.

Great Goulessarian! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

i mean i can't imagine the actual conversation. like:
spike: '....'
mike watt: 'hello?'
spike: '....'

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

also having trouble imagining chris eliot on the phone with REM

chris: 'so uh... the show is about a newspaper boy.'
stipe: '...'
chris: 'have you seen me on letterman?'

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

Mike Watt's a pretty friendly guy

sarahel, Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

he was actually in a really funny video/skit with artist Mike Kelley, the name of which I forget, but has a really great line, "I don't know what's wrong with my guitar man, everything i play comes out sounding hippie"

sarahel, Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:38 (fifteen years ago)

yes Watt is super-friendly, he will talk to pretty much anybody

Great Goulessarian! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)

i remember reading somewhere they had let a song be used in a commercial to pay for an expensive medical operation but i bet jackass money isn't part of that, due to mtv's notorious cheapness.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

mtv jams even more econo than Watt?

sarahel, Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

violated by dancing raisins

del griffith, Thursday, 28 October 2010 23:23 (fifteen years ago)

"Stuck in the Middle With You"...has MORE nuance/meaning to me now because of it's filmic association.

1000%, a thousand times over. I liked it on the radio as a kid, but Tarantino uncovered something in that song I couldn't even have conceived of. (And did almost as well with George Baker and Blue Swede.)

clemenza, Friday, 29 October 2010 02:55 (fifteen years ago)

I really agree with this post. Clockwork Orange is what i think of when I hear this song [re: singin' in the rain].

that sucks. i think of gene kelly.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Friday, 29 October 2010 05:00 (fifteen years ago)

What was the first movie to use "Carmina Burana"? It's pretty hard to listen to it now without thinking of its overuse in various climactic movie scenes.

Tuomas, Friday, 29 October 2010 07:02 (fifteen years ago)

always associate it with conan the barbarian

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Friday, 29 October 2010 07:39 (fifteen years ago)

More faulty memory: "Easy to Be Hard" is used at the very beginning of Zodiac, not after the first murder as I wrote above. I guess the spookiness comes from the fact that you know someone is about to be killed.

clemenza, Saturday, 30 October 2010 13:04 (fifteen years ago)


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