Why not anticipate Crime Pays, the forthcoming album from Camron?

Or am I in the minority here?

Well, count me in.

There's been a bit of Cam talk on autogoon. I like "I Hate My Job" a lot.

I love how "Cookies & Apple Juice" is a way-late-to-the-party goof on Soulja Boy yet is just as funny as it would've been back in 2007.

i barely listened to that song but how does it have a Soulja Boy vibe?

"COOKIES AND SOME APPLE JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUICE!"

ok, maybe the influence is limited to "crank dat soulja boy."

it seems more in the spirit of "chain hang low" or old double dutch stuff, bringing back a schoolyard chant...lol i hadn't thought of "milk milk lemonade, around the corner fudge is made" since i was like 6.

cryme pais

yeah i dunno...to me Cam has always been at least as infantile as any teen rapper so it just struck me as another Cam song.

so this has leaked and is fabulous

We wanted a The Wrestler-style comeback that derived power from its protagonist's fall; instead, this LP has a lonely, defensive Kirk Van Houten vibe.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13029-crime-pays/

his voice sounds different

that's a good review

cam is still on point lyrically to me (ie "make da trap say aye") - and his albums always slow burn for me cuz i hate his emotionless delivery lots of the time - but the beats on this album are just so so ugly and unappealing and boring and repetitive. on purple haze, songs like "soap opera" and "hey lady" and "girls" were a necessary counter point to these super menacing beats like "get em girls" and "bubble music" and "leave me alone pt 2". and then you had an out of nowhere cali rip off like "chi" or something like "killa cam" which has so much urgency. so much of crime pays is unappealing sonically and laconic emotionally

he sounds so much better over a buoyant and colorful beat like "make da trap say aye" than he does over the beats on crime pays

i'm kinda fuck that pfork review, this record's better than that (not as great as purp haze, much better than killa season)

but maybe i just don't listen to enough NYC punchline rap

jordan, i think he's going in the right direction - the beats are such a huge improvement over public enemy/killa season that it's insane

also remember back in the purp haze days he had access to expensive/a-list beat makers

but i went through these stages

1st listen: "oh yeah, new cam, this is awesome
3rd-7th listens: "some gems, some clunkers, like most cam albums"
15th listen: "you know, even the clunkers are bangin', they're not really clunkers after all"

yeah i don't think it's fair to compare his stuff w/ purple haze, but it's really the only cam album that i fuck with so it's inevitable personally. but wrt to a-list beatmakers and such, purple haze doesn't have any just blaze beats or anything (one from kanye sure) and really it was produced by a bunch of no names with the exception of the heatmakerz who are only famous for other dipset songs. to me there's just a problem w/ the tone of the album, it's not fun, it's not adventurous and i just think it's really monotones despite the fact that cam's verses still read well

tone of the album = the tone of 'crime pays'

and really monotonous not really monotones

haze had two kanye joints, but you're right - my memory sucks.

hmm. so it's still no-names but yeah, tone's different for sure.

thing is that it's easier for me to sit through CP than it is for me to sit through PH, in terms of production. i need to work on WHY that is.

part of it = fewer bloody guests

though i miss dipset guest spots

any favorites, jordan? so far, mine are:

2. Cookin' Up
3. whatever it's titled
8. "Get It In Ohio"
10. "Grease" (Skit)
15. "Chalupa"
17. "My Job"

i actually liked all the songs that came out before the album dropped. i think "i hate my job" is great and i like "cookin up" and "get it in ohio" a lot too. "silky (no homo)" reminds me of the stuff of purple haze that i like the most ("soap opera" etc), and i think the beat brings out the best of cam's silly side ("he baked beans, just add rice/ no soft drinks, just mad ice") and it's probably my fav off the album

heh, yeah! i love it when cam just trances out on a tangent and starts free-associating (while still making a point, though sometimes he's just riffing) that's when he's at his best imo

doing a song titled "got it for cheap" w/o clipse seems sorta counter-intuitive, no?

yeah i thought that was weird

they didnt invent that concept/phrase, dudes

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2009/05/the_distillery_camrons_crime_p.php

lol at nobody being on Cam's dick anymore

still love this album, though it's got a few too many weak tracks to make my top 10 albums list

still on Cam's dick