mojo neo-prog special issue

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
liars 3
decemberists 2
acid mothers temple 1
usa is a monster 1
marnie stern 1
parts & labor 1
mastodon 1
steven wilson 1
flaming lips 1
deerhoof 1
circle 1
fucked up 0
white magic 0
the week that was 0
akron/family 0
battles 0
omar rodriguez-lopez 0
lightning bolt 0
diagonal 0
dungen 0
future kings of england 0
ghost 0


kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 02:14 (sixteen years ago)

malkmus?

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 02:17 (sixteen years ago)

starting a poll about neo-prog at 9pm on a friday seems........appropriate

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Saturday, 21 March 2009 02:25 (sixteen years ago)

you so crazy

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 02:28 (sixteen years ago)

there are some times alex moulton owns

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 02:32 (sixteen years ago)

decemberists? wha?

be on the treadmill - uh! - like OK GO (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 21 March 2009 02:57 (sixteen years ago)

just, you know, reporting the debates
http://www.harpmagazine.com/articles/detail.cfm?article_id=4804

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:02 (sixteen years ago)

^^^^ this

xp to m@tt

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:02 (sixteen years ago)

this ^^^^

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:05 (sixteen years ago)

The centerpiece is “The Island,” a three-part, 12-minute sprawl that shifts from crunchy rock to the sound of finely picked nylon strings to twirling keyboard indulgence. It’s also the showcase for Conlee who, for the first time, got to create instrumental organ sections that exposed her lifelong love of 70’s rock dinosaurs Emerson, Lake & Palmer. “I’m a huge fan. In the past people were like, ‘Jenny don’t talk about that, it’s not cool. But now, prog rock is back in style, right?”

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:07 (sixteen years ago)

who decides this shit

14 karat gold steen computer wizard (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:11 (sixteen years ago)

i think there's like a record collecting mafia that meets annually to determine which parts of their collection they want to make most valuable in the coming fiscal year

"nobody's paid triple digits for a copy of Welcome Back My Friends... in ages! let's fix that"

14 karat gold steen computer wizard (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:13 (sixteen years ago)

x post

Kansas vs. Starcastle - or, the Lie at the heart of Americophobia

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:16 (sixteen years ago)

huh. i have only heard that "her majesty the decemberists" and it sounds like they might be giants on some pantaloon shit

i dispute a lot of this. dungen is psych to me, not prog, which has always been a big difference in my book.

battles is just the natural extension of 90s math rock stuff, hell didn't one dude used to be in helmet?

liars are way more out of the PIL/Gang of Four/blahblahblah tradition

fucked up is just a hardcore band that took acid

this whole list seems weird, trying to hard

be on the treadmill - uh! - like OK GO (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:16 (sixteen years ago)

orthrelm owns every band on this list twice over. and how in god's name you're going to list (not-that-prog) AMT but not (equally not-that-prog, but better band) Boredoms or (actually prog, and awesome) Ruins or Koenjihyakkei is madness

and now off to all night prog jamz

Dominique, Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:16 (sixteen years ago)

i forgot ween and the boredoms. fuck

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:17 (sixteen years ago)

^ dope post xp

14 karat gold steen computer wizard (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:17 (sixteen years ago)

trying to hard is the ultimate trying too hard

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:18 (sixteen years ago)

ghost is the most prog-prog of all those bands, at least the ones i've heard.

be on the treadmill - uh! - like OK GO (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:19 (sixteen years ago)

orthrelm sucks k

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:19 (sixteen years ago)

i thought orthrelm was metal?

be on the treadmill - uh! - like OK GO (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:20 (sixteen years ago)

rip dom, rip glen adam garcia

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:29 (sixteen years ago)

mastodon is metal (tho meshuggah would probably be my pick on the prog angle). orthrelm is brain hemorrhage music. in any case, now, lots of metal goes to "prog" places. psyopus is "grindcore" and harder to get my head around than anything I've ever heard by, say, genesis or yes. (imo, telling is that old prog was also kind of pop, whereas "neo prog" isn't)

x-post ok for reals~!

Dominique, Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:35 (sixteen years ago)

"breaking the law" is metal. mastodon is more metallica (judas priest + rush)

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:43 (sixteen years ago)

i have no idea what you guys are talking about

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:46 (sixteen years ago)

what gbx is up to, out on the town

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:50 (sixteen years ago)

and iron maiden's "rime of the ancient mariner"

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 03:52 (sixteen years ago)

forget it, Peter Sinfield is no Jorge Luis Borges (which is why, in the manner of fantasy authors with a similar inability to draw any conclusions from their own work, double- and triple-albums started emerging), and using him as a model for 'human complexity' strikes me as a bit flawed

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 04:33 (sixteen years ago)

whaaaaat

leigh exodus (country matters), Saturday, 21 March 2009 09:56 (sixteen years ago)

Very few of those bands strike me as being "prog" in any way whatsoever. I suspect a decal job of some sort "prog is what WE say it is, little people" fuck this shit (mojo magazine, that is).

Pashmina, Saturday, 21 March 2009 14:17 (sixteen years ago)

this is all dumb

leigh exodus (country matters), Saturday, 21 March 2009 14:24 (sixteen years ago)

Opeth is pretty prog-arific. Certainly much more so than Fucked Up or Deerhoof.

If anything, this sub-trend marks a (dubious?) return of proud virtuosity to rock, but not necessarily a return to prog, per se.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 March 2009 15:01 (sixteen years ago)

nice sidebar for opeth in the steven wilson cover story, discussing how his production stint "mellowed them out"

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 16:31 (sixteen years ago)

Gentle Giant

sonnyboy, Saturday, 21 March 2009 16:49 (sixteen years ago)

Very few of those bands strike me as being "prog" in any way whatsoever.

this. but i'll still buy the issue because many of these bands are great anyway.

battlestar elastica (get bent), Saturday, 21 March 2009 16:59 (sixteen years ago)

(why decemberists and not fiery furnaces, who actually do go to some pretty prog places?)

battlestar elastica (get bent), Saturday, 21 March 2009 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

The new Decemberists record is an hour-long rock opera with reprises, motifs, vocalists "playing" different characters, and some sludgy riffs here and there. Also, it's dreadful.

Simon H., Saturday, 21 March 2009 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

Also, I am amused that Parts and Labor have now been tagged as "prog" since "noise" failed to stick.

Simon H., Saturday, 21 March 2009 17:14 (sixteen years ago)

i think i'd be into the decemberists if they didn't suck. i mean they look good on paper...

battlestar elastica (get bent), Saturday, 21 March 2009 17:17 (sixteen years ago)

no fooling about fiery furnaces. trail of dead too, and grizzly bear now, going all procol harem with nico muhly

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 17:45 (sixteen years ago)

fiery furnaces are one of the most unfairly derided rock groups of the decade imo...they're pretty much A+ every time they make music, and they're so pure of motive...and that last album is just fucking thrilling

leigh exodus (country matters), Saturday, 21 March 2009 19:52 (sixteen years ago)

great live band too. eleanor remembering all those lyrics given what's going on on-stage is pretty amazing

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

omar rodriguez-lopez

Are his solo albums as bad as I think they are? I vote Circle anyway, although they seem to be slipping into AMT territory - too many mediocre releases, too many half thought out ideas.

Matt #2, Saturday, 21 March 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

I voted Liars just because I think they're the best current band on that (strange) list.

But where the fuck is Zombi?

And yeah, Orthrelm out-progs them all.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 21 March 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

is Time Of Orchids on there? RIP, alas

dow, Saturday, 21 March 2009 21:53 (sixteen years ago)

I would guess that this list is all bands that are currently recording/touring, etc. There are plenty of other great ones that are defunct.

unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Saturday, 21 March 2009 22:00 (sixteen years ago)

Are his solo albums as bad as I think they are?
i don't think so. i can't stand mars volta, but old money (on stones throw (!)) is pretty good

kamerad, Saturday, 21 March 2009 22:17 (sixteen years ago)

agree with Dominique - if this was a serious survey, big problem with no Boredoms, no Ruins, no Orthrelm ... but I think this is more of a "bands we want to promote that we are going to lump into an arbitrary genre to rationalize a special issue" thing.

unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Saturday, 21 March 2009 23:05 (sixteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 22 March 2009 00:01 (sixteen years ago)

ned and hi dere otm
"OK Computer": Classic Or Dud?

kamerad, Sunday, 22 March 2009 07:35 (sixteen years ago)

sug ban 3
sug ban 2
sug ban 1
sug ban 1
sug ban 1
sug ban 1
sug ban 1
sug ban 1
sug ban 1
sug ban 1
sug ban 1

Me So Hongroe (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 March 2009 07:39 (sixteen years ago)

lighten up, noodle vague

kamerad, Sunday, 22 March 2009 08:09 (sixteen years ago)

great album

If You Don't Love the Preachers Fuck You (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 March 2009 08:15 (sixteen years ago)

okay, noodle vague

kamerad, Sunday, 22 March 2009 08:21 (sixteen years ago)

I'm sorry kamerad I didn't notice the "mojo" part. I just assumed it was a bullshit list of random indie suckers with no connection to prog whatsoev.

If You Don't Love the Preachers Fuck You (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 March 2009 08:24 (sixteen years ago)

apologize no more, noodle vague

kamerad, Sunday, 22 March 2009 08:25 (sixteen years ago)

you've gotta feel for people who can't get into mirrored

kamerad, Monday, 23 March 2009 02:44 (sixteen years ago)

the week that was? prog? it sounds more like giles giles & fripp than king crimson

Bad, Bad Memories of a Good Time (electricsound), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:56 (sixteen years ago)

it sounds more like genesis than giles giles & fripp

kamerad, Monday, 23 March 2009 02:57 (sixteen years ago)

that explains a lot

Bad, Bad Memories of a Good Time (electricsound), Monday, 23 March 2009 03:05 (sixteen years ago)

sure does

kamerad, Monday, 23 March 2009 03:10 (sixteen years ago)

i heard a long song off that new decemberists and frankly it sounded more like 5 indie rock songs stitched together...way more "band on the run" than "foxtrot" IMO...or the pussy version of that long song on "american idiot"

i guess to me, "prog" can involve a lot of elements but it has to to some degree involve sort of "chops" type playing. otherwise it's just psych or weird rock music.

however, zappa is very chopsy but not prog to me.

be on the treadmill - uh! - like OK GO (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 23 March 2009 16:16 (sixteen years ago)

when was this issue, btw? sure not the latest?? weird that they're suddenly doing this now, if so.

ambient bangers (gnarly sceptre), Monday, 23 March 2009 18:39 (sixteen years ago)

(surely, I meant to say.)

ambient bangers (gnarly sceptre), Monday, 23 March 2009 18:40 (sixteen years ago)

M@tt, "The Island" does sound a lot like Jethro Tull to me. And "When the War Came" sounds a bit like "No Quarter". I do kind of think of The Crane Wife as chopsy. Haven't heard the new Decemberists though.

Sundar, Monday, 23 March 2009 21:39 (sixteen years ago)

i haven't heard the crane wife, so i'm kinda talking out of my ass.

but this particular song was just like a mishmash not prog.

Reege & Leif (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 23 March 2009 21:57 (sixteen years ago)

The new Decemberists record is an hour-long rock opera with reprises, motifs, vocalists "playing" different characters, and some sludgy riffs here and there. Also, it's dreadful.

^^^^^ this. Glad I got off this bus after the first album (which I still like)

akm, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 02:27 (sixteen years ago)


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