1970 vs. 1971 vs. 1972 (this is not pointless!)

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this might seem pointless , but hear me out: these three years represent a radiophonic utopia of sorts. Just past the reach of the '60s, this short period inherited the wild, mind-expanded experimentalism of that hallowed/reviled decade while simultaneously outgrowing many of its embarrassing mannerisms (plus, this is just before all of that calcified into the cheesy & empty quasi-fascism of arena rock). Also top 40 rarely got as good again then it did during these three years (if you ever catch a random Casey Kasem show from this period, you'll know what I mean), partly because, as Scott Miller pointed out, radio programmers had yet to see the point in dividing up audiences between black and white musics. Certainly this is the real apex of what folks like Simon Reynolds and Sasha Frere-Jones are hankering after when they call for a current desegregated zone of pop music. These three years mark a time when grimy funk, bloozy and boozy country rock, and post-acid proto-metal (and goth proto-noise-rock) could all be seen as occupying the same continuum...

Poll Results

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1972 12
1970 7
1971 7


Kanye Twitty (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 2 April 2009 11:41 (fifteen years ago) link

(the poll itself is pointless though...if only bcz I think 71 is going to pwn this, as it boasts not only the Hipster's Holy Trinity of cool 70s albums (Riot-Tago Mago-Maggot Brain) but also the Rockster's Holy Trinity (Who's Next-Zoso-Paranoid)...I just started this poll bcz I wanted to call attention to it, and bcz it was one of those ideas that came to me that, if I don't post it on here right away, will stay in the front of my mind all day and keep me from doing anything at all...)

Kanye Twitty (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 2 April 2009 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link

'72 better for glam rock though - Ziggy, Transformer, Telegram Sam etc

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 2 April 2009 11:53 (fifteen years ago) link

don't forget Roxy Music's first album...

Kanye Twitty (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 2 April 2009 11:53 (fifteen years ago) link

1970 has Layla, 1972's got Exile. But 1971 has everything else. It's really not even close.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

the thread title doth protest too much, methinks

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

anyway

1970 produced fun house, paranoid, lick my decals off baby, and me

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

pretty sure paranoid is '71...

but i'm voting '70 too, bcz of fun house, decals, yeti, along with all the great hippie albums (Zep III, Gold Rush, the two Dead ones...there's actually a lot of music in 1970 I still want to check out too)(plus i like Soundtracks better than TM)

Kanye Twitty (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Paranoid is the second album by the British heavy metal band Black Sabbath, released in September 1970 through Vertigo Records.

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Paranoid was 70 (xp)

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Thought this was gonna be a Grateful Dead poll.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

paranoid was '71 in the US if you want to be picky

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

no.

\m/ piece n' luv \m/ (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

It screams 1970, that album

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

But Master of Reality was '71, which makes that year the winner.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I need to see a list of releases for each year

Irving Forbush (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd disagree but it'd be like chatting religion with osama bin laden

xp to bill

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

inclined to go with '72 though, as there are glimmerings of various things that year that would reach their apex a little later

Irving Forbush (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1970_albums

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1971_albums

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1972_albums

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

The "Paranoid" single, released before the album, reached number four in the UK. Pushed by its success, the album hit number one in the UK, and is the only Black Sabbath album to have done so. The US release was held until January 1971, as the Black Sabbath album was still on the charts at the time of Paranoid's UK release. The album broke into the top ten in the US in March 1971, and would go on to sell four million copies in the US alone, with virtually no radio airplay.[4] Paranoid's chart success in the US allowed the band to tour there for the first time in December 1970.

confused wiki entry as usual.

\m/ piece n' luv \m/ (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

how is it confused?

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Master of Reality's better than Paranoid anyway

Irving Forbush (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

its confused cuz it suggests their US chart success preceded their US tour in December '71, even though the album wasn't out in the US until January '71

Irving Forbush (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

haha you're confused too

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

and not just about master of reality

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah. except it's December '70.

xps

\m/ piece n' luv \m/ (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry about correcting you Edward when it appears I don't really know what I'm talking about

Kanye Twitty (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

would have to think long and hard abt this, just want to say Drugs A. Money = On T. Money w/ opening post

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

aw shucks Will you know how long I've waited for somebody to say that?...

Kanye Twitty (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

no worries, the only reason I remember the release date is because I was released in the same month that year

xp to DAM

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

"I'd disagree but it'd be like chatting religion with osama bin laden"

My cave's much more well-appointed.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

no worries, the only reason I remember the release date is because I was released in the same month that year

Were you held back for American release too?

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link

what happened? I am confused

Irving Forbush (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

72' for the dawning of phillysound

meisenfek, Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

1972. Excellent albums by Genesis and Yes. 1973 was even better though.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 2 April 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

1970 had Live At Leeds and Bitches Brew. But 1971 had What's Going On, Who's Next, Blue, There's A Riot Goin' On, Maggot Brain, ZoSo, Muswell Hillbillies, Aretha Live At Fillmore West, Sticky Fingers, A Nod Is As Good As A Wink, Just As I Am, High Time, Hunky Dory, and A Tribute To Jack Johnson.

Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 2 April 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

1972 was a good year.

Koo Koo Butter (u s steel), Thursday, 2 April 2009 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link

1971 had me

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 April 2009 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

1972: Transformer, Will the Circle Be Unbroken, Roxy Music, America Eats Its Young, Ziggy Stardust, Doremi Fasol Latido, Superfly, Harvest, Neu!, Nuggets, ON THE CORNER, Talking Book, The Slider, Pleasure, The Spotlight Kid, Son of Schmilson, Roadmaster, Ege Bamyasi

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 April 2009 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Other great 1970 stuff--

After the Goldrush
Comme a la radio
Soft Machine- 3rd
Don't Crush that Dwarf
Sex Machine
Cowboy in Sweden
Kristofferson
Lick My Decals
James Gang Rides Again
Rodriguez- Cold Fact
Shazam
Lee Dorsey- Yes We Can
Pass the Distance
Toots- Monkey Man
Afternoon of a Georgia Faun
Armchair Boogie
Buddy Miles- Them Changes
Hello I'm Johnny Cash
Tribute to the Best Damn Fiddle Player
Wizz Jones- The Legendary Me
Michael Nesmith- Magnetic South

President Keyes, Thursday, 2 April 2009 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

It is.

Pointless, I meaen.

Tell you why.

1972 wins, because that year you had all the fine albums of 1972 in it, and also the ones from 1970 and 1971 as well.

so ner.

Mark G, Thursday, 2 April 2009 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link

(1970) The Spinners - It's a Shame
(1970) Stevie Wonder - Signed, Sealed, Delivered I'm Yours
(1970) Simon & Garfunkel - Cecilia
(1970) Shocking Blue - Venus
(1970) Freda Payne - Band of Gold
(1970) Edwin Starr - War
(1970) Diana Ross & The Supremes - Stoned Love
(1970) Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Our House
(1970) Chairmen of the Board - Give Me Just a Little More Time
(1970) Brotherhood of Man - United We Stand
(1970) Derek & The Dominos - Layla
(1970) Free - Alright Now
(1970) Led Zeppelin - Immigrant Song
(1970) Mountain - Mississippi Queen
(1970) Norman Greenbaum - Spirit in the Sky
(1970) Santana - Black Magic Woman
(1970) Santana - Oye Como Va
(1970) The Doors - Peace Frog
(1970) The Guess Who - American Woman
(1970) The James Gang - Funk #49
(1970) Badfinger - Come and Get It
(1970) Badfinger - No Matter What
(1970) Blues Image - Ride Captain Ride
(1970) Bobby Bloom - Montego Bay
(1970) Bread - Make it With You
(1970) Cat Stevens - Wild World
(1970) Chicago - 25 or 6 to 4
(1970) Chicago - Colour My World
(1970) Chicago - Make Me Smile
(1970) Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Teach Your Children
(1970) Edison Lighthouse - Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes)
(1970) George Harrison - My Sweet Lord
(1970) George Harrison - What is Life
(1970) Gordon Lightfoot - If You Could Read My Mind
(1970) James Taylor - Fire and Rain
(1970) John Lennon & The Plastic Ono Band - Instant Karma!
(1970) Joni Mitchell - Big Yellow Taxi
(1970) Mungo Jerry - In The Summertime
(1970) Nitty Gritty Dirt Band - Mr. Bojangles
(1970) Pacific Gas & Electric - Are You Ready
(1970) Paul McCartney - Maybe I'm Amazed
(1970) Sugarloaf - Green Eyed Lady
(1970) The Bee Gees - Lonely Days
(1970) The Carpenters - (They Long to Be) Close to You
(1970) The Carpenters - We've Only Just Begun
(1970) The Guess Who - No Time
(1970) The Ides of March - Vehicle
(1970) The Partridge Family - Come On Get Happy
(1970) Three Dog Night - Joy To The World
(1970) Three Dog Night - Mama Told Me (Not To Come)
(1970) Three Dog Night - Out in the Country
(1970) Van Morrison - Moondance
(1970) Brook Benton - Rainy Night in Georgia (Atlantic)
(1970) Curtis Mayfield - Move On Up
(1970) Diana Ross - Ain't No Mountain High Enough
(1970) Donny Hathaway - The Ghetto (Atlantic)
(1970) Eric Burdon & War - Spill the Wine
(1970) King Floyd - Groove Me
(1970) The Delfonics - Didn't I (Blow Your Mind This Time)
(1970) The Five Stairsteps - Ooh Child.mp3
(1970) The Honey Cone - Want Ads
(1970) The Jackson 5 - ABC
(1970) The Jackson 5 - I'll Be There
(1970) The Jackson 5 - The Love You Save
(1970) The Temptations - Ball of Confusion (That's What the World is Today)
(1970) The Temptations - Psychedelic Shack
(1970) Tyrone Davis - Turn Back the Hands of Time
(1970) Ray Stevens - Everything is Beautiful

(1971) Tom Jones - She's a Lady
(1971) The New Seekers - I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing
(1971) Joni Mitchell - California
(1971) John Lennon - Imagine
(1971) Janis Joplin - Mercedes Benz
(1971) Janis Joplin - Me and Bobby McGee
(1971) Ike & Tina Turner - Proud Mary
(1971) Five Man Electrical Band - Signs
(1971) Faces - Stay With Me
(1971) James Gang - Walk Away
(1971) Jethro Tull - Aqualung
(1971) Led Zeppelin - Black Dog
(1971) Led Zeppelin - Misty Mountain Hop
(1971) Led Zeppelin - Rock and Roll
(1971) T. Rex - Bang a Gong (Get it On)
(1971) Ten Years After - I'd Love to Change the World
(1971) The Doors - L.A. Woman
(1971) The Doors - Riders on the Storm
(1971) The Rolling Stones - Brown Sugar
(1971) The Who - Baba O'riley
(1971) The Who - Won't Get Fooled Again
(1971) America - A Horse with No Name
(1971) Brewer & Shipley - One Toke Over the Line
(1971) Carole King - I Feel the Earth Move
(1971) Carole King - It's Too Late
(1971) Carole King - Sweet Seasons
(1971) Carole King - Where You Lead
(1971) Cat Stevens - Moon Shadow
(1971) Cat Stevens - Peace Train
(1971) Cher - Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves
(1971) Coven - One Tin Soldier
(1971) Crosby, Stills & Nash - Love the One You're With
(1971) David Bowie - Changes
(1971) Don McLean - American Pie
(1971) Elton John - Levon
(1971) Elton John - Tiny Dancer
(1971) Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds - Don't Pull Your Love (Out)
(1971) Harry Nilsson - Coconut
(1971) Harry Nilsson - Without You
(1971) Helen Reddy - I Am Woman
(1971) James Taylor - You've Got a Friend
(1971) Joan Baez - The Night they Drove Old Dixie Down
(1971) Jonathan Edwards - Sunshine (Go Away Today)
(1971) Lee Michaels - Do You Know What I Mean
(1971) Lobo - Me and You and a Dog Named Boo
(1971) Melanie - Brand New Key
(1971) Neil Diamond - I Am, I Said
(1971) Ocean - Put Your Hand In The Hand
(1971) Paul McCartney & Wings - Uncle Albert-Admiral Halsey
(1971) Paul Revere & The Raiders - Indian Reservation
(1971) Rod Stewart - Maggie May
(1971) The Bee Gees - How Can You Mend a Broken Heart
(1971) The Carpenters - Rainy Days and Mondays
(1971) The Hollies - Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress
(1971) The Partridge Family - I Woke Up in Love This Morning
(1971) Three Dog Night - An Old-Fashioned Love Song
(1971) Three Dog Night - Never Been to Spain
(1971) Tony Orlando and Dawn - Knock Three Times
(1971) Aretha Franklin - Rock Steady
(1971) Betty Wright - Clean Up Woman
(1971) Bill Withers - Ain't No Sunshine
(1971) Jean Knight - Mr. Big Stuff
(1971) Joe Tex - I Gotcha
(1971) Marvin Gaye - Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler)
(1971) Marvin Gaye - Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology)
(1971) Marvin Gaye - What's Going On
(1971) Rare Earth - I Just Want to Celebrate
(1971) Sly & The Family Stone - Family Affair
(1971) Stevie Wonder - If You Really Love Me
(1971) The Chi-Lites - Have You Seen Her
(1971) The Dramatics - Whatcha See is Whatcha Get
(1971) The Jackson 5 - Never Can Say Goodbye
(1971) The Persuaders - Thin Line Between Love & Hate
(1971) The Staple Singers - Respect Yourself
(1971) The Temptations - Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me)
(1971) The Undisputed Truth - Smiling Faces Sometimes

(1972) Alice Cooper - School's Out
(1972) Argent - Hold Your Head Up
(1972) David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust
(1972) David Bowie - Suffragette City
(1972) Deep Purple - Smoke on the Water
(1972) Gary Glitter - Rock'n Roll Pt. 2
(1972) Mott the Hoople - All the Young Dudes
(1972) Neil Young - Heart of Gold
(1972) The Doobie Brothers - Jesus Is Just Alright With Me
(1972) The Eagles - Peaceful Easy Feeling
(1972) The Eagles - Take it Easy
(1972) The Eagles - Witchy Woman
(1972) The Edgar Winter Group - Frankenstein
(1972) The Edgar Winter Group - Free Ride
(1972) The Moody Blues - I'm Just A Singer (In A Rock And Roll Band)
(1972) The Rolling Stones - Tumbling Dice
(1972) Yes - Roundabout
(1972) America - Ventura Highway
(1972) Apollo 100 - Joy
(1972) Arlo Guthrie - City of New Orleans
(1972) Badfinger - Day After Day
(1972) Carly Simon - Anticipation
(1972) Chicago - Saturday in the Park
(1972) Chuck Berry - My Ding-a-Ling
(1972) Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airmen - Hot Rod Lincoln
(1972) Dave Edmunds - I Hear You Knocking
(1972) Edward Bear - Last Song
(1972) Elton John - Daniel
(1972) Elton John - Honky Cat
(1972) Elton John - Rocket Man
(1972) Elvis Presley - Burning Love
(1972) Gallery - It's So Nice To Be With You
(1972) Gary Glitter - Rock'n Roll Pt. 2
(1972) Gilbert O'Sullivan - Alone Again (Naturally)
(1972) Jackson Browne - Doctor My Eyes
(1972) Jim Croce - Time In a Bottle
(1972) Jim Croce - You Don't Mess Around With Jim
(1972) Johnny Nash - I Can See Clearly Now
(1972) Johnny Rivers - Rockin' Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu
(1972) Loggins & Messina - Your Mama Don't Dance
(1972) Looking Glass - Brandy (You're A Fine Girl)
(1972) Lou Reed - Walk On the Wild Side
(1972) Paul Simon - Me And Julio Down By The School Yard
(1972) Paul Simon - Mother and Child Reunion
(1972) Rick Nelson - Garden Party
(1972) Sammy Davis Jr. & The Mike Curb Congregation - The Candy Man
(1972) Seals & Crofts - Summer Breeze
(1972) Steely Dan - Do It Again
(1972) Steely Dan - Reelin' In The Years
(1972) The Doobie Brothers - Listen To The Music
(1972) The Doobie Brothers - Rockin' Down The Highway
(1972) The Raspberries - Go all the Way
(1972) Todd Rundgren - Hello It's Me
(1972) Todd Rundgren - I Saw the Light
(1972) Al Green - I'm Glad You're Mine
(1972) Al Green - I'm Still in Love With You
(1972) Al Green - Let's Stay Together
(1972) Al Green - Love and Happiness
(1972) Betty Wright - Clean Up Woman
(1972) Bill Withers - Lean On Me
(1972) Billy Paul - Me and Mrs. Jones
(1972) Billy Preston - Will it Go Round in Circles
(1972) Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose - Too Late To Turn Back Now
(1972) Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose - Treat Her Like A Lady
(1972) Harold Melvin & The Bluenotes - If You Don't Know Me By Now (Live)
(1972) Main Ingredient - Everybody Plays the Fool
(1972) Marvin Gaye - Trouble Man
(1972) Stevie Wonder - Superstition
(1972) Stevie Wonder - You are the Sunshine of My Life
(1972) The O'Jays - Back Stabbers
(1972) The O'Jays - Love Train
(1972) The Spinners - Could It Be I'm Falling In Love
(1972) The Staple Singers - I'll Take You There
(1972) The Temptations - Papa Was A Rollin' Stone
(1972) War - The Cisco Kid
(1972) Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show - Cover Of The Rolling Stone
(1972) Mac Davis - Baby Don't Get Hooked On Me
(1972) Rick Nelson - Garden Party
(1972) Climax - Precious and Few
(1972) Three Dog Night - Black and White

Good times.

you never hmm (PappaWheelie V), Friday, 3 April 2009 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link

you so crazy!

\m/ piece n' luv \m/ (Ioannis), Friday, 3 April 2009 09:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Groundhogs' Split came out in 1971, so 1971 wins.

Marco Damiani, Friday, 3 April 2009 09:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I've been a 1970 loyalist for quite some time now, as previous threads will illustrate. Two albums apiece from Sabbath and Funkadelic plus Funhouse is some scary shit. And if i needed to cheat, I could even rationalize that a significant percentage of the best 1971 stuff was recorded in '70. (Of course, 1970 was a TERRIBLE year for Jimi, Janis and Albert Ayler but I'll ignore that fact.)

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 3 April 2009 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

1971 for TRIBUTE TO JACK JOHNSON and LOVE IT TO DEATH

69, Friday, 3 April 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Tribute to Jack Johnson is 1970 tho

President Keyes, Friday, 3 April 2009 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 5 April 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 6 April 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

surprise ending!

jagged-electronically mäandernden underbody (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 6 April 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I went '72 largely on the strength of a resurgent fascination with Something/Anything?, but I realized soon after that I should have voted '71 simply for There's a Riot Goin' On.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 7 April 2009 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Matos ur getting back into Rundgren...that kind of rules...

jagged-electronically mäandernden underbody (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 01:44 (fifteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

Gaylord Fields recently did this show to rep for '72

http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/82107

I was even younger than he was, and i remember nearly all these from the radio.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 November 2018 01:08 (six years ago) link

Somehow I missed this at the time.

1. 1972 (soul music peak--favorite radio year ever, being a little too young in '65/66)
2. 1970 (David Browne's Fire and Rain is very good--basically still the '60s)
3. 1971 (makes me think of Three Dog Night, Chicago, and the Guess Who)

clemenza, Monday, 5 November 2018 12:27 (six years ago) link

I keep playlists on iTunes of songs I like and it comes out like this:

1970 - 157 songs
1971 - 147 songs
1972 - 125 songs

So that's my answer. I do love all the funk stuff from '72 ('71 also had a lot, but '72 was kind of THE golden year). It's not immediately clear to me why '72 finishes last for me, maybe something to do with '60s energy dissipating in some areas by that time.

Josefa, Monday, 5 November 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link


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