the SINGLES OST poll

"i used to treat you like a lady/now you're a substitute teacher"

yeah, it's a beautiful song

"chloe danced the tables in the french quarter"

"State of Love and Trust" is definitely one of my favorite PJ tracks. "Nearly Lost You" and "Would?" are quality too. Oh, and the Westerberg tracks. Gahhhhhhh!

Instinct says go with PJ.

Yeah, this is kinda tough. I also really love the build of "Birth Ritual". But in the end, my favorite Pumpkins track ever ever has to take this.

"Seasons" gave me so many false hopes for Chris Cornell's post-Soundgarden career. I probably like "Breath" and "State" more than any song on Ten these days. And I've been thinking boy I should check out the Screaming Trees for the past 17 years because of "Nearly Lost You," still haven't gotten around to it. "Drown" is amazing. Damn this is hard.

Would? all the way

IF

I

WOULD

COULD

YOU?

*badumnum*

in re "chloe dancer/crown of thorns," has anyone done the math yet on just how important g'n'r were wrt the seattle scene?

ha, i was thinking that same thing, listening to that song again. in some alternate universe where andrew wood lived and MLB got huge, it might have seemed more like a sunset strip-seattle continuum (with janes addiction as the bridge, maybe), instead of the big BREAK WITH HAIR METAL that grunge supposedly represented.

grunge kills hair dead was always a story sold to the kidlings. i've been pretty firm for a while that g'n'r killed hair dead, but it's been mostly gut feel and bloviation on my part until recently. starting to put the pieces together...

here's cornell in 1994:

"For a decade," he whispers, "youth culture was represented by guys who presented themselves as really decadent: a drugs, alcohol, women, limousines lifestyle in front of all these kids. Starting with Guns 'N' Roses, when they were just a rock band, before they were stuffing $100 bills in their pockets, the kids realised that there were people who looked like their friend at school who can represent them in some way, playing the sort of music they like and can deal with. Ultimately, people would rather go out and buy an album by a kid with long hair and a backwards baseball cap than a 37 year old balding guy in spandex."

http://web.stargate.net/soundgarden/articles/q_10-94.shtml

instead of the big BREAK WITH HAIR METAL that grunge supposedly represented.

"Supposedly..."

I don't know whether to vote for Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns, May This Be Love, or Drown.

Would is amazing.

What is this, grunge revival week on ILM at the moment?

Would or Nearly Lost You, don't think I even liked any of the other songs on this awful thing apart from Jimi.

nearly lost you, close second to overblown.

^^^

Alright, I'm still thinking about this album this morning. I must have listened to this 1000 times in college. I think I would rank them like this.

"Drown"
"Overblown"
"State of Love and Trust"
"Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns"
"Would?"
"Nearly Lost You"
"Breath"
"Waiting For Somebody"
"Birth Ritual"
"Dyslexic Heart"

The rest don't really do as much for me.

voted drown over overblown, would?, and nearly lost you

Yeah, this soundtrack is actually pretty good. Buy this and Nevermind, and that's probably all the grunge you need.

Yeah, this soundtrack is actually pretty good. Buy this and NevermindSuperfuzz Bigmuff, and that's probably all the grunge you need.

isnt it the 15th anniversary of cobains suicide this weekend too?

wish you had mentioned that back when i would've had enough time to put together a theme party

I once spent the better part of an hour of an acid trip trying to get the fucking boom box to play "Dyslexic Heart", only to keep getting "Drown" cued up instead. Very frustrating.

why the hell would you rather listen to "Dyslexic Heart" than "Drown" during an acid trip!?

I can't handle Billy Corgan's voice when I'm level-headed, much less otherwise.

I haven't heard this in almost fifteen years, aside from the odd track, but it's gotta be "Drown." so epic!

i've always wondered, how the hell did Smashing Pumpkins end up on here anyway? they weren't from Seattle, they weren't on the label that released the soundtrack, and Siamese Dream was a year away. was Cameron Crowe just a fan or something?

he's a fan of everything, incl fucking Peter Gabriel, why not

there was a lot of buzz around gish, it's not like smashing pumpkins was some obscure band.

i know...but i mean, they weren't huge yet, so it's not like they'd be thrown on with all those already big bands to help sell the thing. Westerberg's kind of an outlier, too, but that's less surprising just because there was a lot of hype about it being his first solo stuff and having the first single and Crowe using Replacements songs in the past. with SP there's just no obvious reason they were involved.

Gish was pretty huge around college radio as I recall--I could be wrong though

yeah but i mean...a lot of non-Seattle non-Epic bands were buzzed about and played on college radio in the early 90s...if it were any other one i'd be scratching my head about them instead. what's your point?

hmm. i don't get where you're coming from. you're saying that cameron crowe shouldn't have put them on there because they were from chicago?

maybe he just liked the band

from what I remember of the time, there was some equivalency drawn between the Seattle grunge scene and what Smashing Pumpkins were doing, so their inclusion doesn't surprise me

i'm not saying he shouldn't have, it's one of my favorite songs on the CD...i'm just wondering if there was some reason why that's well known. xpost

life lesson: soundtracks don't always make sense

i think dan's got it--as I recall Gish is really different from the songs i've heard on Siamese Dream

i mean i know that around that time there was that RHCP/Pearl Jam/Pumpkins tour and they were all kinda contemporaries. but i'd be a little weirded out if RHCP was on the Singles sdtk too, y'know?

Have to go with "Waiting for Somebody," just based on this poll stirring warm feelings for the film and the opening of that song feeling somehow synonymous with the whole thing.

Pretty much I hear anyone sing that ahh-ahh-ahh and Campbell Scott immediately comes to mind.

re SPs
yeah, with Pixies & Jane's Addiction more or less dead, it seemed at the time the biggest 'alternative' touchstones were pretty much Seattle in toto, Smashing Pumpkins and Dinosaur Jr. well, that is for a fourteen year who lived in a town safely outside the broadcast signal of a decent college radio station and where the only cable provider didn't carry MTV (wtf?!)

(hence no 120 minutes)

"Drown" always struck me as a pleasant middle ground b/w the murky dream-pop of Gish and the bombast of what came later. I wish they'd explored that territory further, as I feel it really suited them. Oh well.. Drown gets my vote, barely edging out "Would?"

yeah reminds me of a lot of the stuff off Pisces Iscariot. real shame about Corgan's voice bc the bulk of those first 2 records & PI were really pretty damn good

"nearly lost you" really is a fantastic pop song, tho, now that I'm thinking about it.

WORD. strange that Screaming Trees never got more popular.

It was probably b/c the fat dudes kept them from getting a Sassy "cute band alert."

Would? all the way

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are you sure there isn't another selection you should be voting for

well played

Would

in re "chloe dancer/crown of thorns," has anyone done the math yet on just how important g'n'r were wrt the seattle scene?

Sounds to me like they influenced one band... mother love bone. So yeah.. not especially influential. (Also Duff was in The Fastbacks, but I don't think that hardly matters since he left years before Sub Pop 100.)

also fuck cameron crowe

Hi this is Bridget Fonda from Seattle, Washington and I voted for Pearl Jam "State Of Love And Trust" because Pearl Jam rocks and the bands is hot!! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! WWWOOOO!

Anyone remember this first-person story Crowe wrote for Musician at the time? He followed Cornell, Vedder, and a miffed Paul Westerberg through the process of recording and sending their material. Crowe spent hours in a smoke-filled hotel room with Westerberg, in the hopes he'd write the hit. "I'm going to play this one more time, then I'm leaving," W said, and he left.

Sounds to me like they influenced one band... mother love bone. So yeah.. not especially influential. (Also Duff was in The Fastbacks, but I don't think that hardly matters since he left years before Sub Pop 100.)

Point kinda missed, but given what became of MLB's six-string section there's probably an argument that that one band's enough.

i can almost sense a few parallels between jane's addiction and mother love bone: charismatic and mysterious frontman, lyrics somehow steeped in the otherworldly, an epic feel to a number of the tracks, and a general feeling of glitz and glam about the whole thing. the segue into grunge from alternative or hair metal or hard rock or whatever is said to have immediately pre-dated it has always been of interest to me. while some acts seemed to have typified the grunge sound from the get-go (nirvana, mudhoney etc.), others such as alice in chains or soundgarden seemed to ease into it gradually. for instance, facelift sounds almost a little too polished and slick to wear the grunge tag and feels like more of a metal record.

I remember really digging "State of Love & Trust," but I'll have to go with "Would?" here.

"Seasons" gave me so many false hopes for Chris Cornell's post-Soundgarden career

V. true.

the westerberg tracks on this are great. i only became a replacements fan a few years back, so never gave these tracks their due back in the day. hmmm, it really is a solid and consistently strong soundtrack.

drown.
for the "i wish i wish i could fly etc.." part and the drums there

i like the westerberg songs, but for me he was already into his looking-for-a-next-act phase here, and he never really quite emerged from that. plus i always thought "dyslexic heart" was a pretty bad bit of lyrical imagery.

It is an awkward metaphor. It's probably the best solo song Westerberg did though.

Some may recall that before the movie, Pumpkins put out a single on the Sub Pop singles club. So there was a real connection with Seattle in addition to shared influences of classic rock and proto-metal.

"Drown" always struck me as a pleasant middle ground b/w the murky dream-pop of Gish and the bombast of what came later. I wish they'd explored that territory further, as I feel it really suited them. Oh well.. Drown gets my vote

Yes. Voted for this.

Some may recall that before the movie, Pumpkins put out a single on the Sub Pop singles club.

i remember reading about that...tristessa/la dolly vita, right?

Yes, on pink vinyl! That aforementioned RHCP/Pearl Jam/Pumpkins tour also featured Nirvana on some dates.

Anyone remember this first-person story Crowe wrote for Musician at the time?
Does this exist online anywhere? This sounds awesome.

strange that Screaming Trees never got more popular.

I remember the end of this more than the performance itself.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

omg that letterman clip is incredible

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

this sounds about right. nice hierarchy of vote allotment, but with a nice spread for all of the contenders (well, except for Heart. I can't even remember that track).

i like the cover so its a shame it didnt get a vote.

Paul Westerberg is the only thing I'd listen to here.

No Pumpkins or Screaming Trees for you Bimble?

i liked every song on this album.

i love the Pearl Jam, Chris Cornell, and Mudhoney tracks, can't believe they go so few votes. i think i voted State of Love and Trust, but i can't remember. really i love every song on here except MLB and Heart. that Jimi track is the shit, too.

actually, the two tracks that didn't get a vote are possibly the ones that i've played least over the years. so, that's a decent reflection right there. otherwise, that soundgarden track is amazing, maybe i should have voted for it to prop it up a bit.

Although it was my pick, I'm surprised the Pumpkins snagged this; I thought the backlash would have taken it from them. Love 'Drown' though.