Jazz D-Bags: Let's discuss Jazz dudes going all folk rock

Like this kinda thing:
http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/h/herbie-hancock/album-river-the-joni-letters-with-bonus-tracks-amazoncom-exclusive.jpg
or
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/d/desmon_paul_bridgeove_101b.jpg
Are there others? I like both of these for the most part, though I'd rather the Herbie album was all instrumental. Wouldn't have won the Grammy without those guest stars though! Herbie is a clever guy. The Desmond record (which Hancock played on btw) has its ups and downs, but curiously, the nicest thing is the extremely free floating "Feeling Groovy" ... What else is out there. Is there swinging Neil Young? Jazzy James Taylor (yeah, i know about the jazz James Taylor, I'm talking Sweet Baby James)?

this documentary i saw on Showtime about herbie now pretty much put me off on the man..it was so disgusting, him getting carted around to jam with Phish and Santana and Damien Rice, etc....puke x1000000000

brian blade loves joni mitchell too, he's played on her records and has her sing on a fellowship track.

i should hear joni's jazz stuff sometime i guess

Herbie has worked hard for like 50 years, M@att -- let him jam with Santana, for god's sake. May we all be jamming with Santana when we're 75. But not Damien Rice. That sounds pretty gross.

ooh, never heard (or heard of) this:
http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/22/f4/521b_1.JPG

or this
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51fQ7aw2TAL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

this documentary i saw on Showtime about herbie now pretty much put me off on the man..it was so disgusting, him getting carted around to jam with Phish and Santana and Damien Rice, etc....puke x1000000000

― wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, April 13, 2009 7:19 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

i thought this doc was mildly entertaining and that aguilera came off worse than anybody else in the damn thing

it was okay, but god those phish dudes "goin' in" faces are puke city

and santana talking about....anything

lol santana -- yeah he is horrible whenever someone asks him about jazz. "the spritual love and magic that is inside the notes makes the music into colors."

y'know what was actually kinda good -- this show a few years back where Dylan played with Wynton Marsalis' band? They did a smoky version of "Don't Think Twice" and a New Orleans-y "It Takes A Lot To Laugh" ... Almost made me wish they'd do an album together, a la that Willie Nelson/Marsalis thing.

yr earnin a wow dude for "puke city" fyi

though re: santana this gives him extra points
http://www.jazz.com/assets/2008/1/26/albumcoverJohnMcLaughlin-CarlosSantana-LoveDevotionSurrender.jpg

Restoration Ruin motherfuckers

i've always wanted to hear that mclaughlin/santana joint actually. the suits are hot stuff.

they kinda look like they're about to get married.

haven't heard "Restoration Ruin" though I guess Jarrett has done some folk rock-y stuff. He has some Dylan covers, right?

Doesn't this all stem from Bill Frisell's break from skronk to pioneering but polite countryfolkbluegrass, from 1997's "Nashville" more or less on? Granted, the guy is too eclectic to pin down, but still, he certainly recognized the novelty when he stumbled on it and stuck with it, too.

I love Herbie and I like Joni but for some reason that album scares me

a friend gave it to me as a birthday present several years ago. very weird record. not good, exactly, all the songs are unremarkable and his performance vocally leaves a lot to be desired. It seems like a very odd career choice for him at that point, and the album liner notes make a BIG deal of him recording/playing everything on his own. As if this was some kind of mind-blowing accomplishment.

it = Restoration Ruin

oh wow, Jarrett sings on it? INTERESTING ....

and re: Frisell -- yeah he fits in here. I saw him play last week and his encore was "This Land Is Your Land," so ....

lemme ask you this: is there like a freaky free jazz version of "Eight Miles High" out there? There's gotta be, right?

I love Herbie and I like Joni but for some reason that album scares me

― m coleman, Monday, April 13, 2009 9:47 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

its boring no reason to be ascared of it imo

dunno if it's boring -- but I really like the jazzier Joni Mitchell records, so maybe that's why I like this record. Don't think it's some kinda masterpiece, or, you know, the best album released in 2007 ... but there's good stuff on it.

The "white suit years" are the only Santana stuff I can listen to anymore - Love Devotion Surrender, Welcome, Lotus and Illuminations (with Alice Coltrane, Dave Liebman and Jack DeJohnette, hello!), and a bootleg I have of the tour Santana and McLaughlin did together in '73 with Larry Young and Billy Cobham.

m@tt I have to say I'm surprised that yr one of those "he makes faces while playing, ick eww" guys.

Cassandra Wilson just put out a compilation of her pop side called "Closer to You: The Pop Side," which contains a nicely mysterioso version of "Harvest Moon," among others.

just get into it m@tt
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper873/stills/42b0870435f00-84-1.jpg

and yeah, cassandra wilson -- that is a good one. that "harvest moon" is def. nice.

hege1son w/e u do do NOT click on this thread

jazz dudes dressed ridiculously while totally goin in

will scar u

http://www.sundazed.com/shop/images/ELP221-300.jpg

lol santana -- yeah he is horrible whenever someone asks him about jazz. "the spritual love and magic that is inside the notes makes the music into colors."

Haha, so otm.

okay, so i guess brian blade released his singer/songwriter album

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=32587

shhh, don't tell all the Lanois haterz over on the Dylan thread. Interestingly -- and sort of on topic -- I think I read an interview with Lanois where he was talking about how, right before Miles Davis died, they had talked about doing an album together. Whaddaya think that would've sounded like?

also, isn't it true that Miles Davis had something to do with the Byrds record contract with Columbia? Or am I making that up.

have no idea what this sounds like, but ... http://www.dustygroove.com/item.php?id=h3w7gwfpx8&ref=index.php

Restoration Ruin motherfuckers

― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, April 13, 2009 9:39 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ love this record. There are some stand-out cuts IMHO but the ones with strings are kind of crummy.

There's some folky stuff on Tony Williams' "Emergency" as I recall.

Let's discuss rock dudes going all jazz folk. Is there much stuff in the vein of Astral Weeks-era Van Morrison/Happy Sad-era Tim Buckley out there? It's the upright bass and the vibraphone that does it for me, I think.

Pentangle? Rhythm section at least is guys who were steeped in the jazz scene iirc. Maybe anything w/ Danny Thompson playing bass -- some Nick Drake, John Martyn, etc.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/MyJazzWorld/RrDCErdJ-6I/AAAAAAAAAYQ/ELtGoo1EVG0/s288/PaulHorn_Visions.jpg

This album's pretty great. He covers Joni Mitchell, csny, batteaux, Stevie wonder and a few others.

I'm very intrigued by this Restoration Ruin lp, lik was it a direction Jarrett wanted to head i nor what was his motivation in cutting the lp? Couldn't be something he was directed towards or something? What was thought to be selling that year?
Do biographies of him say anything?