I Was Wrong About Radiohead

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I seemed to make it a point to rip Radiohead a new one on seemingly every other thread since 2001, when -- if truth be told -- I've come to not only respect them, but quite like them. I was wrong about Radiohead, and I apologize.

Beyonce, meanwhile, is still a tepid plate of indefensible shit.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 13:57 (seventeen years ago)

you couldn't come up with a better punchline than that?

cutty, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:00 (seventeen years ago)

`Tisn't a punchline, but rather a statement of indisputable fact.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:01 (seventeen years ago)

also plz share when the moment was when your ears perked up and you decided I WAS WRONG ABOUT RADIOHEAD

cutty, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:01 (seventeen years ago)

I was wrong about Birkenhead.

Passantino Complexion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:03 (seventeen years ago)

Bootle, meanwhile, is still a tepid plate of indefensible shit.

Passantino Complexion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:04 (seventeen years ago)

Repeated listenings of Kid A prompted by Chuck Klosterman's hypothesis that it eerily predicted 9/11 (which is claptrap, of course, but a nice theory all the same).

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:04 (seventeen years ago)

I too was wrong about Radiohead. I just can't be getting on with Yorke's snivelling slurring singing style these days, it grates.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:07 (seventeen years ago)

you were wrong about radiohead, and you're even wronger about beyonce

europeen handball (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:10 (seventeen years ago)

have you notified the press association?

Local Garda, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:13 (seventeen years ago)

I was wrong when I talked about disliking anchovies on pizza back in 2002. Should I start a thread about that as well?

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:14 (seventeen years ago)

Absolutely.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:16 (seventeen years ago)

I too was wrong about the anchovies. Maybe if enough of us step forward we could perhaps form a club. xpost

maciej recognizing trill, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:16 (seventeen years ago)

That makes a lot of sense but what about Killing Joke?

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:51 (seventeen years ago)

Repeated listenings of Kid A prompted by Chuck Klosterman's hypothesis that it eerily predicted 9/11

what on earth does this even mean?

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:56 (seventeen years ago)

If you play "Treefingers" backwards you can hear Thom Yorke going "WATCH OUT FOR THE 9th OF NOVEMBER"

Passantino Complexion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:58 (seventeen years ago)

Truly I tell thee, Thom Yorke is a prophet among men.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

To be fair it's no http://www.dianamystery.com/

Passantino Complexion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

Or that one Showaddywaddy album that eerily predicted the career of Stan Collymore.

Passantino Complexion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:00 (seventeen years ago)

choosing radiohead over beyonce is really unfortunate :(

Surmounter, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:01 (seventeen years ago)

Depends whether you're after a darts team.

Passantino Complexion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:01 (seventeen years ago)

Hound Dogging I think it was called.

Passantino Complexion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:02 (seventeen years ago)

If you look closely at a CD copy of Dangerously in Love you'll find Osama Bin Laden's phone number etched.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:04 (seventeen years ago)

His exact wherabouts at this moment in time are foreshadowed in Snooker Loopy.

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:06 (seventeen years ago)

xpost

Think that was a reference to Beyonce being a Beard.

Passantino Complexion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:07 (seventeen years ago)

invitation to rabies (╓abies), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:07 (seventeen years ago)

choosing radiohead over beyonce is really unfortunate :(

I'd pick Radiohead over Beyonce, too, but I like Beyonce a lot (her singles, at least).

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:08 (seventeen years ago)

The first song on Kid A paints the Manhattan skyline at 8:00 A.M. on Tuesday morning; the song is titled "Everything in Its Right Place." People woke up that day "sucking on a lemon," because that's what life normally feels like on the Manhattan subway; the city is a beautiful, sour, sarcastic place. We soon move onto song two, which is the title track. It is the sound of woozy, ephemeral normalcy. It is the sound of Jonny Greenwood playing an Ondes Martenot, an instrument best remembered for its use in the Star Trek theme song. You can imagine humans walking to work, riding elevators, getting off the C train and the 3 train, and thinking about a future that will be a lot like the present, only better. The term KID A is Yorke's moniker for the first cloned human, which he (only half jokingly) suspects may already exist. The consciously misguided message is this: Science is the answer. Technology solves everything, because technology is invulnerable. And this is what almost everyone in America thought around 8:30 A.M. But something happens three and a half minutes into "Kid A". It suddenly doesn't feel right, and you don't exactly know why. This is followed by track three, "The National Anthem"

This is when the first plane slams into the north tower at 470 mph.

"The National Anthem" sounds a bit like a Morphine song. It's a completley different direction from the first two songs on KID A, and it's confusing; it's chaotic. "What's going on?," the lyrics ask. "What's going on?" It gets crazier and crazier, until the second plane hits the second tower (at 9:03 A.M. in reality and at 3:42 in the song). For a moment, things are somber. But then it gets more anarchic. (Reader's Note: You might want to consider playing KID A right about now, since I'm not always so good at explaining shit like this). Which leads into track four, "How to Disappear Completely." This is the point where it feels like the world is possibly ending. People try to convince themselves that they are not there. People keep repeating: "This isn't happening". People are "floating" (read: falling) to the earth. We are told of strobe lights and blown speakers; there are fireworks and hurricanes. This is a song about being burned alive and jumping out of windows, and this is a song about having to watch those things happen. And it's followed by an instrumental piece without melody ("Treefingers"), because what can you say when skyscrapers collapse? All you can do is stare at them with your hand over your mouth.

Time passes. It's afternoon. KID A's side two, if you have it on vinyl. Action is replaced by thought. The song is "Optimistic, " a word that becomes more meaningful in its absence. It has lyrics about Ground Zero ("vultures circle the dead"), and it offers a glimpse into how Al Qaeda members think Americans perceive international diplomacy ("the big fish eat the little ones, the big fish eat the little ones/Not my problem, give me some"). Track seven, "In Limbo" is about how the United States has been shaken out of its fantasy, with "nowhere to hide," finding only "trap doors that open, I spiral down"......

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:09 (seventeen years ago)

I was wrong about Radio Gaga btw.

Passantino Complexion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:10 (seventeen years ago)

that dude needs to stop smoking pot

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:10 (seventeen years ago)

Thinking we should start an album conspiracy thread.

Passantino Complexion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:11 (seventeen years ago)

If you follow the link to where it shows the kid a artwork... scroll down to "Episode 15". The bear on "CNN" is saying some symbols.
Straight up, one of them is 9/11.

Holy shit.

Posted by: justin | February 10, 2009 at 08:15 PM

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:14 (seventeen years ago)

the "A" in "Kid A" actually stands for "Al-Qaeda."

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

"al-qaeda" means the base in arabic, and "kid a" is basically a pretty good album

goole, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

Radiohead - a new new collapsing buildings for our time.

\m/ metal oaf \m/ (Ioannis), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:29 (seventeen years ago)

Album conspiracy thread is a GRATE idea.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

Eerily Prescient Albums

Passantino Complexion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:31 (seventeen years ago)

Beyonce, meanwhile, is still a tepid plate of indefensible shit.

Still OTM.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:43 (seventeen years ago)

beyonce has better melodies than radiohead

goole, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

then it's even more egregious that she does so little with them.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

Full disclosure:

http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2005/07/klostermans_the.html

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:53 (seventeen years ago)

beyonce has better music than radiohead

c?rvel (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:53 (seventeen years ago)

She has better music? I've never perused her disc collection.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:54 (seventeen years ago)

beyonce is a better person than alex in nyc

c?rvel (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:55 (seventeen years ago)

Quite possible, I've never met her. But certainly not if her music's anything to go by.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:56 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/chuck-klosterman-0109-fb-32960733.jpg

Welcome to Club Radiohead

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:57 (seventeen years ago)

at least beyonce doesn't sound like a whining baby all the time

Surmounter, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 16:06 (seventeen years ago)

beyonce could def beat up radiohead

c?rvel (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

Pretty sure those dudes in that picture could beat up Radiohead.

Passantino Complexion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 16:08 (seventeen years ago)

nah that bald drummer dude is a lot tougher than you think i bet

wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 16:08 (seventeen years ago)

"alternative rock music"

omar little, Friday, 30 September 2011 23:06 (fourteen years ago)

if someone asks me what I'm listening to I take my headphones off and ask them what they're listening to and then when they tell me, I usually go "oh, then you'll probably be into [some band from the 70s]"

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 30 September 2011 23:06 (fourteen years ago)

no one ever asks me what i'm listening to.

chris "difficult" brown (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 30 September 2011 23:07 (fourteen years ago)

sometimes they really don't want to tell me what they're listening to it gets really awkward but I push it

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 30 September 2011 23:07 (fourteen years ago)

do people really ask you guys what you're listening to?

chris "difficult" brown (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 30 September 2011 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

"people"

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 30 September 2011 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

"people" do

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 30 September 2011 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

I just say "e-40" and there's usually a 50% chance I'm not telling a lie

dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 23:10 (fourteen years ago)

no one ever asks me this. unless my music is bothering them at work.

lol dayo

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 September 2011 23:10 (fourteen years ago)

The inherent snobbery in the idea that anyone whose favorite band is Radiohead are "more casual music fans" kind of kills me tbh. I mean sure, true for some, hardly true for all. It's as ridiculous as saying that anyone whose favorite composer is Bach or Schubert is inherently a casual classical fan, when obviously that does not hold true at all.

― Melissa W, Friday, September 30, 2011 3:30 PM (33 minutes ago)

if u were a more causal music fan u would probably use say, reich/rachmaninov rather than bach/schubert in that analogy

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 September 2011 23:12 (fourteen years ago)

man I havent listened to rachmaninov in a long time

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 30 September 2011 23:17 (fourteen years ago)

the phil selway of the concert grand

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 September 2011 23:19 (fourteen years ago)

kinda like how when i'm listening to my ipod in public and anyone asks what i'm listening to i always say "the rolling stones."

You realise you're going to need to update this response to "Superheavy" now?

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Friday, 30 September 2011 23:25 (fourteen years ago)

I like radiohead and have seen them live and shit but if someone says their fav band is radiohead I will def silently judge them

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, September 30, 2011 6:05 PM

Good for you?

if u were a more causal music fan u would probably use say, reich/rachmaninov rather than bach/schubert in that analogy

― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, September 30, 2011 6:12 PM

idek what you're trying to say here.

Melissa W, Friday, 30 September 2011 23:26 (fourteen years ago)

i constantly get asked what i'm listening to! it's like, jesus, people, if i have headphones on while riding public transportation it's because i am trying to block out reality until i return to my hole to avoid a panic attack.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Friday, 30 September 2011 23:33 (fourteen years ago)

i say i'm listening to a computer studies course lecture notes and then the person usually goes away

coal, Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:03 (fourteen years ago)

I feel like I'm the opposite of a hater with them. It's not that I think they're less good than their fans believe. It's that I think lots of other bands are way better than some of Radiohead's fans believe. There are people commenting on that Vulture post who seem MAD at the suggestion that any other musician in the world might even be nearly-as-good as Radiohead. (I don't know why you wouldn't be pleased to believe that, unless you really just wanted to declare yourself as having impeccable taste, and admitting that other good music might exist infringes on that.)

ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:20 (fourteen years ago)

do you look really cool & listen to music really loud strongo?

u0sd0ןɟ (flopson), Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:26 (fourteen years ago)

i look like a mental defective and listen to music at the appropriate volume

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

maybe u just look like youre really enjoying it

u0sd0ןɟ (flopson), Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:28 (fourteen years ago)

was it on this forum where someone would record themselves screaming and walk to their college classes listening to it

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:35 (fourteen years ago)

I was right about Wrongiohead

I'll show you the power of laughter! (Abbbottt), Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:37 (fourteen years ago)

I think a lot of radiohead hate comes from their changing style from a hugely popular and accessible album like the bends to a slightly more experimental/challenging album in ok computer through everything since which is basically trolling anyone who likes chords

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 01:49 (fourteen years ago)

www.geir.ie

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Saturday, 1 October 2011 01:51 (fourteen years ago)

Lolled

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 01:58 (fourteen years ago)

these radiohead guys are pretty good

i think i might just give them a chance

kelpolaris, Saturday, 1 October 2011 02:06 (fourteen years ago)

why do people enjoying hating radiohead: its cause theyre mopey and ponderous and when you point this out their fans are all NO WAY CHECK OUT TRACK 6 OK COMPUTER

ice cr?m, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:17 (fourteen years ago)

also like the titles of their albums 'ok computer' 'kid a' do not exactly inspire confidence

ice cr?m, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:20 (fourteen years ago)

radiohead fans feel inherently guilty abt liking the band and everyone can tell

ice cr?m, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:23 (fourteen years ago)

a shroud of shame hangs over the radiohead empire

ice cr?m, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:23 (fourteen years ago)

otm

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:03 (fourteen years ago)

No guilt.

Melissa W, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:21 (fourteen years ago)

the only thing 'wrong' with radiohead being your favorite band is that it's as boring as the beatles being your favorite band and 1/100th as justifiable

some dude, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:48 (fourteen years ago)

it's about the same level of justifiable imo but i guess the Beatles had more variety, fuck off to them

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:52 (fourteen years ago)

serious sliding scale

ice cr?m, Saturday, 1 October 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

All of this only confirms what I thought about Radiohead. Boring.

and...
i also sort of like having some bands to like that are at least of a moderate degree of popularity and known to most ppl, at least by name

Oh do you? ha! ha!

chromecassettes, Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:22 (fourteen years ago)

nothing like the same level of justifiable tbh

holby city thrilled b cosby (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

xpost idg what was funny there

just sayin, Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

i have opinions about radiohead

ima.tumblr.com (@imsothin) (m bison), Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

Hey chromecassettes, suck my dick ha! ha!

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

wirelesstoilet

larvae o'dooley, Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

OK! Ha! Ha!

chromecassettes, Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

Hey chromecassettes, suck my dick ha! ha!

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

loool

markers, Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

does loool stand for laugh out out out loud? Is that a reference to that band Shout Out Out Out Out? If you like Radiohead you might like them as well.
HIJACKED!

chromecassettes, Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

pls don't be a sock

ima.tumblr.com (@imsothin) (m bison), Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

Are your cassettes made out of chrome?

revelatory juxtaposition there, bro (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 2 October 2011 03:55 (fourteen years ago)

Oh whoops sorry about that SNA-ers!

revelatory juxtaposition there, bro (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 2 October 2011 03:56 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

did alex in nyc ever do an "i was wrong about beyoncé" thread?

I was never fucking wrong about Beyonce.

Alex in NYC, Sunday, 6 November 2011 22:35 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.closeronline.co.uk/Assets/Image/100204_beyonce1_lead.jpg

...options. (Ówen P.), Monday, 7 November 2011 00:09 (fourteen years ago)

Surely they should have released a 'song' called 'Witchdoktors' by now

Peas, Ants, Pigs & Astronauts (PaulTMA), Monday, 7 November 2011 00:44 (fourteen years ago)


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