Cerberus Shoal: Classic or Dud?

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Pretentious neo-progressive outfit or sheer genius at work? A "search and destroy" would be welcome too, thanx!

Simone, Tuesday, 24 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

This is the first c-o-d I've never heard of - way to go, Simone ;)

Tom, Tuesday, 24 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Viva!

I like _Homb_, the only album I've heard from them. So promising if not yet classic, and search _Homb_. There, that was easy. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

no, i have to disagree here.

i thought 'homb' was hippy drudge.

must get: '...and farewll to hightide'

very very good indeed. personally, i think its the only cerberus shoal record worth getting. its very taut, unlike the boring progness stuff on 'homb'. its got 'broken springs spring forth from broken clocks' on it too, which is one of my favourite songs ever.

gareth, Tuesday, 24 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Coming this way soon : Edgar Broughton Band - Search and Destroy.

Dr. C, Tuesday, 24 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Dud. Maybe I just didn't listen hard enough, but it felt like Can without a time signature. I live in Berkeley. We have (shudder) drum circles here. I don't need more of that.

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 24 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

one month passes...
Classic. They've put on some of the best live shows I've ever seen, and I like their albums a lot. If one were to have a prejudice against perceived hippiedom or proggish tendencies, one would have difficulty appreciating their music. But for me, thoroughly unabashed Pink Floyd and Gong fan that I am, I love 'em. "And Farewell to Hightide" and "Elements of Structure/Permanence" are probably the best of their 5-6 releases.

Phil, Friday, 25 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

six months pass...
he he.....this is a no brainer for me.....CLASSIC!

Erin davidson, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ha!

Erin, is Mr. Boy Dog coming out soon? Hope all of you are well, say hi to the gang for me.

(Tangentially, a change to the above: my favorite is now Homb.)

Phil, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two years pass...
i just heard the thing with herman dune. what do you think of that release?

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

They're brilliant live, just incredible musicians.

roxymuzak, Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:21 (twenty years ago) link

i liked them up to the oscar wilde stuff

tom west (thomp), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:32 (twenty years ago) link

Only heard "Chaiming the Knobblesome" and the split w/ Alvarious B. Seek out "Blood Baby" it is really creepy (sort of) and has great lyrics. "A Paranoid Home Companion" is hilarious as is "Ouch: Signi, Roma, Zigeuner etc." so I don't really see them as pretentious.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:20 (twenty years ago) link

does anyone know if cerberus shoal records or rehearses in a barn? i have to write an article on new england barn psych and it would be great if i could find a band in the northeast that has access to a barn. actual barnyard animals IN the barn would be fucking great, but not a must. And if at all possible, I would need to see the barn.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

I just bought "Mr Boy Dog" and it's the best record I've heard by them. They've accentuated the angular and psych prog aspects of their sound and made something very original out of some disparate elements. The split with Alvarius B is good too, but nearer to cenventional songwriting (although not much nearer). So, classic! I'm told they're amazing live too.

Dunno about any barns but I'm sure they'd tell you if you asked them nicely.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:38 (twenty years ago) link

Scott, there aren't many barns in Portland.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:16 (twenty years ago) link

Just interviewed Cerberus Shoal, actually, and they don't use a barn - in fact, they're not interested at all in the Vermont "free folk"/psych scene. They have a house in S. Portland that they've been renting for years, and they've recorded a few albums there (the recent split EP's, Homb).

Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:42 (twenty years ago) link

who are the vermont bands, chris? if you don't mind my asking.you mean like the whole sunburned hand of the man thing?

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:53 (twenty years ago) link

portland is really quite beautiful.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:53 (twenty years ago) link

wait, are sunburned hand of the man from vermont? when i was up that way for christmas i saw that they were playing in brattleboro.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

vermont is full of pot heads, so it follows that vermont is full of neo-hippie drum circle types.

ahem. pass the peace pipe?

Sunburned are from Boston.

Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, but phishheads aren't the same as weirdo noiseheads.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 9 January 2004 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

vermont is full of pot heads, so it follows that vermont is full of neo-hippie drum circle types.

suddenly that club for growth anti-howard dean ad makes much more sense because I was like, "huh? Vermont? Freakshow?"

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 9 January 2004 01:04 (twenty years ago) link

oh my god, free-form barn psych and howard dean! i smell a pulitzer. who are these free-folk weirdos? i need names. i gotta call them up. wait until you see the ultra-dreamy shot of howard dean in a tree with an acoustic guitar in this week's new yorker! it's aaaaaaaaaalll coming together.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 9 January 2004 01:40 (twenty years ago) link

That Club For Growth ad is so unfunny ans embarrassing for someone. Doesn't Howard Dean like Wyclef?

christhamrin (christhamrin), Friday, 9 January 2004 01:57 (twenty years ago) link

That New Yorker article on Dean was great.

Sorry not to be clearer: the "free-folk" scene is sometimes linked to Vermont because of the ... I forget the name of the festival but every year a bunch of bands (from all over the US) like Sunburned Hand of the Man, the Charlambides, etc. meet up and play some sets. The Wire did a cover story titled "NEW WEIRD AMERICA" oh, about four or five months ago that you should check out, both for the interviews and the extensive "listening guide" that came with the article. I can't vouch for them playing in barns but I think this might be on the track of what you want ... ?

Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Friday, 9 January 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

thanks chris. i don't know what i want. i meant to pick up that wire. i'm being halfway silly about the barn thing. but still, if i could find the right barn and the right band...

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 9 January 2004 02:05 (twenty years ago) link

Ha ha, I totally understand! But yeah, Dean's all about the hip-hop. Did anyone see that speech he gave in front of a stage that was done up with graffiti? Shit was MAD fly. Or something.

David Sylvian lives in a former commune somewhere in New Hampshire ...

Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Friday, 9 January 2004 02:10 (twenty years ago) link

no way! really? about david sylvian that is. hmmm, very interesting.a rain tree crow indeed.(or whatever the hell the name of that band was) Maybe HE is to blame.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 9 January 2004 02:12 (twenty years ago) link

That festival is Terrastock, btw.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Friday, 9 January 2004 02:19 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, this is a different one - Terrastock may have gone through Vermont once or twice, but it focuses on more psych-rock bands (Acid Mother Temple, Bevis Frond, Motorpsycho), and they've held it all over the place, from Boston to San Francisco.

Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Friday, 9 January 2004 02:29 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe this is what I mean. Sorry, my Wires are still in a box in the attic.

Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Friday, 9 January 2004 02:30 (twenty years ago) link

Haha, I'm full of misinformation today.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Friday, 9 January 2004 02:52 (twenty years ago) link

wow, i never thought i would revive this thread and then come back to 21 answers about barns

gareth (gareth), Friday, 9 January 2004 02:55 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
I am listening to their new album, "Bastion of Itchy Preeves" (which is apparently actually old material) and find it quite enjoyable. Anyone else?

christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 02:19 (twenty years ago) link

dude, their old stuff is kinda weird - post emo, sorta bland.

Over the past few years though, they've become excellent. The split with Alan Bishop is fucking STELLAR. 100% godhead killer masterwork ESSENTIALCLASSIC

roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 02:24 (twenty years ago) link

download "DING" right now for evidence

roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 02:24 (twenty years ago) link


i totally agree. the alvarius b split was amazing.

the other splits in that series are pretty cool too... album-wise, i've found them a little spotty. occasionally boring, but occasionally very cool.

i like them when they're literary and feeling more on the outer limits of things. the post-rock meets space-rock parts sorta lack something to me. (but i think that's a me thing.)

m.

msp, Wednesday, 3 March 2004 02:55 (twenty years ago) link

the alvarius b split was amazing.

Yes! Thats what I first heard. They can occasionally make me giggle like a school-girl. This new (old) CD doesn't have any 'emo'ness post or otherwise as far as I can hear. Their press sheet are really good, too. An excerpt: "'Bastion of Preeves' begins with a likeness to the minimalism of Steven Reich then moves into a realm of vocal harmonies, akin to The Flaming Lips and The Residents[...]Intermingled throughout is the more ragged stomp of gypsy styles and the Sun City Girls"

How could you not want to check that out?

To prove I am not a Cerberus Shoal street team member though, they can get a bit boring and drag here and there, but its very nice esp. to casually listen to.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 04:56 (twenty years ago) link

eight months pass...
ok, so, maybe im interested again, after all this time, where to start with their later stuff?

*@*.* (gareth), Friday, 26 November 2004 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

the split cds - with alvarius b and herman dune, specifically. Those are both records I've gone back to quite a bit

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 27 November 2004 01:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Chaiming the Knobblesome is fantastic but it takes a lot of work. They also posted some mp3's on their site here, of their latest stuff, and that includes some of the most accessible stuff from their new line-up.

savetherobot, Saturday, 27 November 2004 06:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven't seen Ned say "Viva" in a while.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 27 November 2004 07:13 (nineteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Played with them last night. Fucking outstanding. Blew us off the stage and made us feel shame. New album rules. Really awesome people as well. They just began a 7 week tour - see them at all costs

God Body (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Colleen from Cerberus Shoal also records these incredible lo-fi, mildly psychedelic country, folk, pop ditties. She goes by the name Asian Mae. A CD-R came out some time back. I believe the Corndawg is re-releasing it on his A Little Dab Will Do You label. Also, the core of Ceberus Shoal is the Corndawg's back-up band on several songs off his last disc, which are all quite good.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't it funny that this was one of the first C/Ds on ILM? Sort of came from out of nowhere. I'm really shocked at how much I like the new EP 'The Land We All Believe In.' I enjoyed Cerberus Shoal back in the beginnings around 'And Farewell to Hightide' when they were sort of exploratory emo. And my enthusiasm faded sometime after 'Homb,' as I felt they went waaay too far off the deep end of abstract navel-gazing hippiedom. I mean I'm all for trying something new but I just hated the result, it sounded all too much like absurd carnival arabesques and I guess that's not my thing.

People like Chris Dahlen always jump in and disagree when I mention the above, but I'm really pleased by the sense of cohesion and driving intent behind the new EP. I feel like they were one of the many groups doing the 'new weird Americana' thing before it ever became labeled as such, but rather than the sparse, swooshy jam band circa 'Elements of Structure,' with this EP at least they seem to have absorbed some of the more agitated raga rhythmic core and aggressive vocal style of bands like SHOTM, No-Neck, etc. Again, it all comes down to taste, but the edge that comes through in their choruses here really makes the record.

Dare (Dare), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
i love the shoal. i was kidding about barns. kinda. i did sorta want to hang out in a barn. i need the last album. and the ep. i am poor though. if the shoal read this and want to come play on martha's vineyard, they should e-mail me. i want to have a shoal/kayo dot double bill. love to all.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

five years pass...

bastion of itchy preeves has been my jam lately when i wanna feel creepy.

saw them on that big tour in 2005 (in an old firestation in middle-of-nowhere, indiana) and it was a mind-altering experience.

also...they have a number of new projects. none of which i can remember the name of right now.

dronestreet, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Big Blood and Fire on Fire are the main ones. Both excellent. I saw Caleb play solo a couple of years ago, mostly songs in Spanish, also excellent.

fear itself (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

six years pass...

I think Ding! is one of my all time favorite piece of recorded music. But I have not delved much into this band otherwise -- is anything else nearly as good?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 27 April 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link

I enjoy Homb a lot, peaceful & contemplative. Chaining The Knoblessone or w/e it's called is way more out there but also worth hearing, as per upthread it sounds like people really like the split with Herman Dune but I have not heard it.

sleeve, Friday, 27 April 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QbMx8kQIbc

scott seward, Friday, 27 April 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

First four albums + Mr Boy Dog have just been released digitally!

Duane Barry, Thursday, 13 September 2018 10:47 (six years ago) link


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