Ciara - 'Fantasy Ride'

Discussion on autogoon, but surely merits its own thread.

Turntables is great; still acclimatizing the rest.

thoughts?

also discussion on R&B...

the first eight or so tracks from "ciara to the stage" through "work" are varying degrees of great (not including "like a surgeon which is godawful), but it reaaallllly loses steam after that. i'm sure the rest will grow on me though

"lover's thing" is fucking great, too, terius operating on his own level imo

The temerity of Ciara and Missy kind of half-assedly revisiting Work It with a collabo called Work is a quarter lame and three quarters awesome.

this album has kind of bored me tbh

courtesy my friend:

The temerity of Ciara and Missy kind of half-assedly revisiting Work It with a collabo called Work is a quarter lame and three quarters awesome.

― I’ve seen a lot in my days as an mp3 blogger (forksclovetofu), Friday, May 8, 2009 5:49 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i mean missy's verse is retarded

luda's verse on "high price" is the shit tho

Rahman is so so dope, I wish he'd do some US hip hop production but i don't think anyone could really afford him

^^^^thissss

trolling bolly mp3blog/pirate sites is a good way to find tons of awesome beats

"I Don't Remember" and "Keep Dancin' On Me" are my fave tracks off this... and "Like A Surgeon", which I love - it reminds me of early-Timbaland/Aaliyah circa-One In A Million.

http://i17.tinypic.com/6ptj2ua.gif

it's drum pattern is classic Timbo...

nah i was just clowning cuz i dont like that song, not @ your analysis.

ah, why don't you like it?

right now it sounds to me like the ballads on this are really good and the dance tracks are only okay

im not usually the guy who's even big on lyrics in the first place, but the sex/surgeon puns are just soo dumb i can't get past it. i said on the r&b thread it's like 77 wrote a ciara song.
also i just dont hear any hook i can really get with in there, it seems to meander on and on until it decides to come back to that chorus which i find really uninteresting

xpost

The only tracks I don't fuck with are "Love Sex Magic" and "G Is For Girl".. otherwise, it's a pretty solid if not AMAZING album. I think if it hadn't all been leaked for like a year it'd feel more fresh and exciting, as it is it's a minor mis-step but I'm sure her 4th album will get her back on track. I sort of agree that the mids and ballads are the stronger tracks on this one, but I kind of felt that way about The Evolution as well (though of course "Bang It Up" & "I Proceed" are wicked uptempos)... I think the sensual midtempo is Ciara's strongpoint actually.

What idiot put this thing together? It's one of the worst sequenced albums I've ever heard, given that it plods and drags through the first half and absolutely FLIES through the second half.

She should let The Dream do the entirety of her next record as his enormous fluffy production clouds fit her barely-there voice far better than anyone else here.

"Echo" being left off the main tracklist is ridiculous btw

I think if it hadn't all been leaked for like a year it'd feel more fresh and exciting, as it is it's a minor mis-step but I'm sure her 4th album will get her back on track

yeah you may be right but it's still disappointing to me cuz this was supposed to be her ~shit~, you know? i do really like this album but anything less than mindblowing is disappointing really

Also I think Young Jeezy narrowly edges out Tom Waits and Bob Dylan at the top of my list of people who should never, ever be allowed near autotune. He sounds ridiculous.

"work" and "pucker up" and the ones like that just fall kinda flat to me

"ciara to the stage", "keep dancing" and ESPECIALLY "lover's thing" sound like the best

What idiot put this thing together? It's one of the worst sequenced albums I've ever heard, given that it plods and drags through the first half and absolutely FLIES through the second half.

lol i was gonna completely agree w/ u but it's the second half that i can't get with right now

yeah "echo" is straight up inexcusable and like i said she's soooo great over airy ballads - she should just make a whole album of those imo

and stuff on the leak is so much better - "rattla" and "click flash" for starters

xp yeah I know, I was so excited for this project at first and everything about it practically has been disastrous. And now it's going to sell barely 70K copies first week... it's really sad actually, I think if they'd released "High Price" as the first single like they planned on doing then none of this would've happened.

ESPECIALLY "lover's thing"

knew you'd love this

"I Don't Remember" is already one of my favorite Polow productions... kind of reminds me of Goldfrapp

and stuff on the leak is so much better - "rattla" and "click flash" for starters

Not including these two, especially Click Flash, is inexcusable.

yeah "Lover's Thing" is nice, but it's kind of a standard L.O.S. beat so I can't get that excited about it... "Keep Dancin' On Me" on the other hand... MASSIVE.

btw - have los da maestro and terius ever made a song that's not a non-classic? they're like... 9 for 9 or something?

er that's not a classic i guess i mean

one of my favorite leaks:

ack, too drunk to commmennntate now but:

I think if it hadn't all been leaked for like a year it'd feel more fresh and exciting

and

I think if they'd released "High Price" as the first single like they planned on doing then none of this would've happened.

otm.

i think it's a really good album...actually a lot better than i was expecting after the botched campaign. sequencing is pretty perfect, dunno what matt is on about! big insane uptempos ==> slow down ==> club jams ==> abstract close. obv 'echo' and 'i'm on' should be on the album proper but what can one do...

interesting: 'turntables', despite no promotion in its own right whatsoever, is in the UK itunes top 40. looks like leaving cbreezy on it was a good sales tactic :/ and also :(

"i want to beat your face in with a vinyl record, baby" is a pretty romantic lyric, dunno what you're on about lex

pucker up is like some vintage girls aloud shit it's great

"I don't remember" is gorgeous. By very far my fave on this (which otherwise is pretty meh after a few listens).
It has a bit of the sweet/melancholia vibe of "why should I be sad" on britney's blackout.

i miss the days when she was just a crunk rapper or whatever

what do you mean ?

The whole album feels VERY britney to me.

"the days when she was just a crunk rapper"

It has a bit of the sweet/melancholia vibe of "why should I be sad" on britney's blackout.

― AleXTC, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 15:00 (6 hours ago) Permalink

i've been comparing keri's "where did he go" to "why should i be sad" a lot in my mind.

i'm excited to hear this album in more depth, can't really comment yet.

we put this on last night, and had to turn it off after the 7th or 8th track and put on the keri album.

the most interesting thing i heard was Work. and i didn't completely mind Like a surgeon.

but yeah my bf and i defffinitely turned off by it. not even the production was really happening for me.

Dude listen to 'Keep Dancing' if you didn't make it that far.

pretty

And you don't like "I don't remember" ?
Still don't care about the rest but really like this one.

definitely didn't get to "i don't remember" ... listening now

ya, this is good. vocals sound good too.

turnin me on is a really good song but i tend to f/w "alienated" more often

"Turnin' Me On" is better than anything on Ciara's album. Too bad I find it impossible to give a shit about the rest of Keri's.

haven't listened to the new ciara all that much. (which I should get on but I kinda burned out on all of the leaks) but I always feel like keri's tracks drag when I listen to in a perfect world because they're often just too freakin' long. like, I understand that there are two big guests on "knock you down" but does this song really warrant its 5mins+ running time? it would be so much stronger at 3-4mins.

agreed that the standouts on both albums are comparable.

knock you down needs to DROP KANYE and it's a top ten of the year for me.

yea, he's pretty useless on it. ne-yo is great, tho.

"I used to be commander in chief of my pimp ship flyin' high"

Ne-Yo's the only good thing about that song

honestly surprised that there is not more talk for "How does it feel" on the hilson album, which is easily my favorite song on either album

yeah, I love it.

I finally came around on Ne Yo solely because of Knock You Down.
Wish I could find another track that he sounds that good on.

sometimes i swear with you

try:

ne-yo - miss independent
ne-yo - closer
ne-yo - mad
ne-yo - because of you
ne-yo - so sick
ne-yo - sexy love
rihanna ft ne-yo - hate that i love you
jamie foxx ft ne-yo & fabolous - she got her own
ghostface ft ne-yo - back like that

"sometimes i swear with you"?

I couldn't get into miss independent,closer, mad or she got her own; back like that is fine, but I find him unimpressive there.
I'm honestly not trying to be difficult.

i believe you - i just don't get how you could like ne-yo on "knock you down" but none of his hit singles

"single"

well, what I like on Knock You Down was the slow burn of the complex roller coaster that his voice takes on each of the individual verses and then the great climax that he carries through in his crooning on the chorus.
It doesn't hurt that I think Knock You Down has a much more solid musical heart than any of those other songs. I was impressed for once by his capabilities and range; mostly (as I've harped on at length in the Chris Brown thread) I find Ne-Yo really unremarkable and kinda bland.
Still keeping an open mind though.

lool @ "smoo-smoo-smooches" in pucker up

this gets better with distance

pissd yall were talking about knock you down in my absense

i take a hot boy, and give him cold feet

the great 'fantasy ride' vs 'in a perfect world...' debate of 09

don't recall this debate?!

fantasy ride anyway

I finally came around on Ne Yo solely because of Knock You Down.
Wish I could find another track that he sounds that good on.

― an average room of dentists (forksclovetofu), Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:13 AM (1 year ago)

this guy

i know

wtf

you guys will be happy to hear that i found another track

it's one in a million fyi

man the new keri single is some fucking bruno mars ish

even tho ur rite that this gets better with distance, jordan, still don't kno the answer to
the great 'fantasy ride' vs 'in a perfect world...' debate of 09

― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:32 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark

have i said that ciara to the stage is one of my favorites now? lol

like, really

that song is beautiful

<3

bashment remix of "love sex magic": http://www.mediafire.com/?2tmtmymneyy

"echo" is so flawless, ciara's second masterpiece after "promise" y/y?

now check that bauble on my finger so right, so right
got the windows tinted but i's catchin the light, the light
speakers thumpin hard to that 2pac and 50 track
they runnin to the corner yellin who dat, who dat
RUN IT BACK

yeah it is flawless

Guess I just got the knack, the knack
See a cutie, push up on him, yes I'm a mack, a mack
Ain't got no suave, I can travel from trap to trap
On my J.O., ayo, when my mac talk back
Run that back.

"Guess I just got the" is such a perfect tongue twister of hard and sort "g" sounds.

ajghjhfkd i still can't believe how much they fucked this campaign up, like how much could've gone right for her if they'd stuck with "high price" as the lead single, and "pucker up" was all swag swag swag several years before everything was

HIGH PRICE with big budget action video
ECHO as summer jam
PUCKER UP
WORK with video as it was

how do you fuck that up

as shoulda coulda woulda hit parades go i don't find that one very convincing. didn't they try to launch the album with "High Priced 'Oh' Rewrite" and it totally didn't work? at the moment Ciara's got probably her most buzzed about single in ages and you're still reliving the flops and trying to analyze how it might've gone differently.

sounds like somebody else on this board

lol

"high price" sounds literally nothing like "oh", and they didn't try to do anything with it

they tried to launch it with "go girl", failed, eventually got it off the ground with the very safe "love sex magic"

i heard "high price" on the radio a tiny lil bit, i assumed they made some attempt at making it a hit. it's not running off the "oh" template as obviously as all her little "promise" knockoffs but it's pretty clearly on the same vibe imo.

iirc it leaked, was slated as the single, was never made a single (never sent to itunes etc) and then 5 million delays ensued

the entire vibe is so different, "oh" is minimal and restrained and ciara's icy-cold, "high price" is explosive and huge-sounding and OTT and ciara's doing her nut in this mental operatic voice

there is absolutely no sonic similarity btw high price and oh except ludacris

and putting out get girl or whatever the fuck it was called and love sex magic over high price is pure insanity and somebody should be arrested for it

body party kinda sucks unfortunately

^pure distilled rongness

if you say so

it's p subtle and i think the greatness of it is in the leadup as opposed to a huge hook

but yea it definitely comes to life

been listening to ciara to the stage a lot lately