crosby stills & nash poll

"Bowling movies?"

the cros

although the others do have their moments. nash's "Better Days" has been bonertime lately for me.

but seriously, If I Could Only Remember My Name is one of my fave albums, like ever

Nash cuz of the Hollies

I'm going with Still because of Buffalo Springfield. Also, I don't think he had anything to do with "Our House," which makes me want to destroy the earth.

well, he played and sang on it -- and produced it. but he didn't write it ... I'm gonna go with Crosby, for his Byrds stuff and If I Could Only Remember ...

I've been meaning for months to make an "Our House" vs. "Teach Your Children" poll and when I do I'll be sure to send you a reminder. xp

Crosby vs Nash is a tough one; I was surprised when I got the first Crosby/Nash album at how much I prefer Nash's songs to Crosby's. Frozen Smiles!

but yeah IICORMN pwns Songs For Beginners

we could also poll which one of these douchebags is the biggest douchebag. guess that'd be between crosby and stills really -- Nash seems to be the nice guy of the group.

tempted to vote Still for 9 minute "Bluebird" + Manassas alone

in fact, fuck it I am voting Stills. lotsa nice stuff on "2" too

Crosby easily the biggest douchebag for a) manipulatively expelling Gene Clark from the Byrds and b) giving us the unpleasant image of a walrus impregnating Melissa Etheridge

Gene Clark probably didn't need much help to leave the Byrds, tbf.

For my fav, Crosby by a pretty decent distance over Nash (yeah, the Byrds and the first solo record, holy cow), then both a long distance over Stills. But Crosby + Nash, good grief check this out, I've prob. posted it before but it's so great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPvOTVVbMko

my fave Crosby quote is his opinion on Crazy Horse: "I'd say to Neil 'What the f--- are you doing playing with those jerks?' He'd say 'They're soulful.' I'd say `Man, so is my dog, but I don't give him a set of drums!'"

"Our House" vs. "Teach Your Children"

Who here (or anywhere) would vote for "Our House"?

Crosby calling anyone else a jerk is pretty rich

lol, yeah -- and having heard a few CSNY boots, gotta say that Crazy Horse walks all over them, even in terms of musicianship. Dudes had some tuning issues.

interesting fact i learned while looking up that quote
Q Who paid for Crosby's liver?
A None other than Phil Collins: "... I gave him the money to pay for his liver and keep the IRS at bay. I just wanted to give him something back for what he'd given me: all the music. Love him dearly".

lol, another interesting fact
Q What was Jimi Hendrix' last guitar solo that was recorded?
A Originally Jimi Hendrix recorded a guitar solo for Stills' Love the One You're With. The ones who heard it were buzzing about it as something incredible. Apparently it sat for a while and Stills recorded over it with the steel drums. It was Jimi's LAST guitar solo...
He died soon after.

I just don't get the Crosby love. I've never listened to IICORMN tho

that's pretty much where the love comes from

Apparently it sat for a while and Stills recorded over it with the steel drums.

This makes it sound like Stills 'recorded over it' by rolling steel drums over the actual tape.

would make for one of the great sitcom scenes

we could also poll which one of these douchebags is the biggest douchebag

Crosby takes it in a walk.

Agreed. He is the epitome of the '60s self-aggrandizing hippie who thinks their generation "changed the world".

that attitude has no place in this thread^^

Voting Nash because the others didn't sound as good without his voice in the mix.

i guarantee crosby is no more a douchebag than 99% of famous musicians out there

I don't really see, why can't we pick all three

This guy nails 'em on the head in relation to their self-titled record.

the man is as dumb as a sack of hammers.

did shakey mo write this?

Stills: "Go Back"(Wonderful track)
"Bluebird"
"Suite:Judy Blue Eyes"
Pretty Girl Why(really great song with nice tremolo guitar)
did he also write "for what it's worth"?

nash

<3 songs for beginners but its got to be crosb

so grossed out by crosby's dingleberry mo

Voted Stills b/c of his guitar playing.

Stills. Love the One You're With is godawful, but the Manassas record is really really good.

yeah, manassas is dope but i feel hillman contributed a lot to that. if this is about who contributed the most to the csn records i think you have to go stills tbh. but if we're talking the whole career of each then crosby, for ladyfriend if nothing else

tempted to vote Still for 9 minute "Bluebird" "For What It's Worth" + Manassas alone

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Hollies were awes and Nash's voice nothing to sneeze at, not to mention writing "pre road downs," which = top tier CSN for me.

as for Cros, much <3 for the Byrds but i doubt my opinion of them would be diminished much even if he'd never been part of the equation

& I'm sure Stills is an unbearable prick (based on Shakey et al), i love Buffalo Springfield and am quite fond of that Manassass record. gotta go Stills.

I'm kinda shocked by the Stills love here! Although if it's TS: "Uno Mundo" vs. "Mind Gardens" then I go with old Cocaine Eyes.

"that attitude has no place in this thread^^

you can like the music and not like the guy. i dont like the guy. then again, i'm not sold on the music.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

there should be a poll of csn endeavors, be they group albums, duo projects, or solo works.

"Our House" vs. "Teach Your Children"

Who here (or anywhere) would vote for "Our House"?

I would! I think that's the only CSN song I ever get the urge to listen to.

we could also poll which one of these douchebags is the biggest douchebag

Crosby takes it in a walk.

― Alex in NYC, Thursday, June 4, 2009 9:01 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dude read "Shakey" it's SO stills, not even a question

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

missed this result

lolz who are you people voting for Stills

this dude here:

Neil Young @ Live8

A guy I know in his 50s told me the other day, with absolute conviction, that Neil Young was the third most talented member of CSNY. (Stills was top, followed by Crosby) It was one of the wrongest opinions I've ever heard.

My favourite Stills story is that he took so much cocaine that he went around telling people he'd served in Vietnam and sort of believing it.

danggg how did i miss this polll

i think crosby is the right answer if we're talking about strength of solo projects alone, but that's not necessarily fair given that iicormn also includes tonnnns of contributions from cali hippie all stars like most of the grateful dead, grace slick, joni mitchell, the rest of csn&y, michael shrieve, etc. it's more of a happy communal vibe that's going on, and most of the time the album's success really doesn't have too incredibly much to do with crosby himself.

which i suppose could also be said about manassas, but when it comes down to it only one of these guys wrote and sang lead on "dark star"

Wow, "Our House" is beautiful...

one of my favorites
nash's voice sounds so beautiful

Listening to the new Stills box.. I think he's my favorite songwriter of the three. Well all my fav CSN songs are by Stills, anyway.

fantastic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_ozbTZYDgc

wow thanks for that Alfred

Still was always my favorite, for songwriting and also his voice

Listening to these outtakes this morning. There's a great bit about 6 minutes in when the engineers interrupt Stills and his reply: "GodDAMN you guys, I was really playing groovy. Now shut up and let us get down and mellow!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXAH_HhMi3c

loool

jfc croz

6. What’s the weirdest thing you’ve ever eaten?

DC: Does that include… no, you’re talking about food? [Laughs].

AVC: Yeah, strictly speaking about food.

Not the weirdest thing Croz has said of late I'm afraid.

Not even the weirdest thing he said in that interview.

Been doing a deep dive on Joni Mitchell for the first time in my life and really enjoying her music in a way I hadn't entirely been able to grasp before. Knowing that she was friends with C,S,N, and Y, and learning now that some of her songs were written about them, I decided to sample Deja Vu on Spotify (it's missing Neil and Joni's songs because they pulled their Spotify catalogs over Rogan beef).

Of the first three songs, I was pretty impressed by Stills' Carry On. Nash's Teach Your Children has always seemed extremely corny to me and this re-listen did nothing to change my estimation. Almost Cut My Hair by David Crosby is just an awful dirge.

So it's amusing to me that the results here are pretty much the opposite of my limited sampling.

It looks like I'll be moving on to their solo work, in which case If I Could Only Remember My Name and Songs for Beginners seem like the obvious picks for Crosby and Nash. But what of the embattled Stills? His self-titled solo record? Manassas? Stills-Young Band's Long May You Run?

I was listening to the CSN projects in chronological order, but bailed out after 1972. Stills gets criticized for egomania, but he was also more ambitious than C or N, and actually rocked once in a while.

His self-titled solo record? This and Stills 2 have a few good songs, like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxbw1SGBu8M

Manassas? Probably his best album but still about half filler; having Chris Hillman singing and writing helps him out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt9qbiwslqo

Stills-Young Band's Long May You Run? Even the Neil songs on this are pretty weak.

Long May You Run is a mediocre album with, I believe, one of Neil's greatest songs: "Ocean Girl" (which is 1972's "War Song" with new words).

Stills has maybe the best sideman/session credits of the lot: his half of Super Session; Joni's Blue; Bill Withers' Just As I Am; cameos on Humble Lie's Smokin'; and percussion on "You Should Be Dancing".

Plus this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FmPskTljo0

And guitar and maybe bass here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VKpMI5Msa4

I was looking at the "He Got Game" video, and I wonder if this is meant to evoke the cover shot on the first CSN album:

https://phildellio.tripod.com/game.jpg

Probably yes, I'd say.

idk, that song is not only on a different album, it’s a whole different band. I’d say coincidence

That Public Enemy are sitting on separate easy chairs while CSN all sat on the same couch is a trenchant comment on the atomization of the great social movements of the 60s by the 90s.

lol

https://i.imgur.com/hZbWoGN.jpg

Well, I'm glad I could be your morning's entertainment.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ULLpy_WyJds/maxresdefault.jpg

Say, can I have some of your purple berries?
Yes, I've been eating them for six or seven weeks now
Haven't got sick once
Probably keep us both alive

I was thinking about this line from "Wooden Ships" last night; how it represents the strength the counterculture derived from the continuum of rock music history up to that point (from Chuck Berry to Deep Purple.

That’s interesting… I’m not sure I buy that was the intention, but I’ve never thought about the possibility that the song could be a metaphor for a slice of the counterculture “dropping out”

Were Deep Purple that big deal when that song was written?

that line haunted me as a kid, I sort of took all these CSN and Airplane lyrics as like, serious philosophies that my hippie parents absorbed and lived by

this page thinks those purple berries are iodine pills to fight the affects of radiation. which makes a certain amount of sense -- would real purple berries last for six or seven weeks?
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/crosby-stills-nash-apocalyptic-tableau-wooden-ships/

effects

Why would they use a euphemism for iodine pills(?) I just take the narrative as face value, it’s obviously a kind of fantasy scenario

or maybe lsd? it's a whole controversy, apparently.

Purple berries: fruit, iodine pills or LSD?
In the article the 'purple berries' are explained to be iodine pills. Though that makes sense within the context of a post nuclear apocalypse story, I have not found any other article on the internet that corroborates this meaning. At this talk page someone suggests it may be the berries that grow on a tree in Vietnam. However, in most articles I've read about the song, the 'purple berries' are a reference to the purple, lentil-shaped LSD tablets that were popular in the time and were sold under exactly that name. I have the feeling that in the article the explanation that is the least likely to be the right one is the only one given. I don't have the means to research this thoroughly but I wish there's someone here who will look into that. Because I don't think the article is correct on this issue. Naamloze gebruiker (talk) 14:34, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AWooden_Ships#Purple_berries:_fruit,_iodine_pills_or_LSD?

Damn… lol

Were Deep Purple that big deal when that song was written?

The original "Mark I" lineup was pretty popular in the States, breaking early on FM Radio and quickly crossing over to AM Top 40 with "Hush" and "Kentucky Woman" later on, although I'm don't think they'd necessarily been seen as Rock'n'Roll future yet.