Replacements - Let It Be POLL

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i think we've done this before, but i'll say sixteen blue

Androgynous

or Unsatisfied. This is difficult.

yeah kid it's a-really hip: replacements LET IT BE poll

I listened to the first four songs off this at the gym this week because of this thread, and let me tell you it made me run like hell on that treadmill! I can't figure out if I should choose "Answering Machine" for purely sentimental reasons or if I should try to be more objective. Thank goodness I've still got time before the poll ends.

― Bimble, Friday, January 11, 2008 8:21 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Also another thing I'll always remember is the splotch of white paint that was on the sleeve of my vinyl copy somewhere around Tommy Stinson's legs in that photo. One of those charming imperfections of pressing you would never see now. (and no, no jokes about him cumming please) Anyone else have a botched pressing of the sleeve of this?

― Bimble, Friday, January 11, 2008 8:26 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

;-)

yeah this has been done but iirc "seen your video" was robbed, i'll rep for it this time and i think sarge has my back

Androgynous, but Unsatisfied is great too.

^^ #'s 3 and 2, respectively

this album finally opened up to me this weekend after like a year of *appreciating* it but not really loving it. now i love it. and i vote "we're coming out"

Tommy Gets His Tonsils Out

Answering Machine

"seen your video" def

"Androgynous" seems to get better year after year for me, really a pretty profound and empathetic song for a straight dude to write about sexual ambiguity/confusion

"i will dare" simply because it's such a great album opener. there's something about it that, when i hear it, makes me excited to be listening to the record.

"favorite thing" last time, "favorite thing" still

Answering Machine, because after all these years I still don't have a fucking clue how to play it on geetar. I've figured out US Maple songs more easily.

i think it's an actual answering machine in the background, could be wrong

Favorite Thing 4EVA!!!!!!

favorite thing" last time, "favorite thing" still

― would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Monday, June 8, 2009 3:15 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

could easily have voted androgynous or black diamond or answering machine or unsatisfied or favorite thing tbh i'm just feelin we're comin out most right right now

"i think it's an actual answering machine in the background, could be wrong"

That voice at the end -- "If you'd like to make a call....", etc., does that still come on? I haven't had a land line in a few years and I can't remember. That woman must have the most listened to voice in U.S. history.

yeah i get her for busy lines and automated voicemails

nobody likes "Gary's Got a Boner." Will one of the contrarians on here just vote for it already?

i like "gary's got a boner". but it's one of their bar-band rock numbers, which work fine as album cuts, they just don't jump out as anybody's favorite song. (see also "dose of thunder," "shooting dirty pool," etc.)

Answering Machine, because after all these years I still don't have a fucking clue how to play it on geetar.

rumor has it Open A with a capo on fret 2 will be a good place to start

i have voted 'unsatisfied' in both of these polls. has there ever been a TIM poll?

i will dare

Sixteen Blue

could easily have voted androgynous or black diamond or answering machine or unsatisfied or favorite thing tbh i'm just feelin we're comin out most right right now

^^^^rEAL tALK.

on the previous poll i voted i will dare
this time ill go with androgynous.

My prediction: Current vacillation will lead to me listening to this album, like, ten times in the next few days, going from one option to another as if my vote really matters, then ultimately forgetting to vote at all and yet feeling OK about whatever wins.

Voting once again for "Favorite Thing."

Now we're talking! (never mind fuckin' Tim).

There really isn't a bad track on this record. I'm going with "We're Comin' Out."

Eh, Tim's not so bad song-wise. It's the production that sucks.

favorite thing

Kidding about the bad track thing? "Gary's Got A Boner" is one of the most cringe-worthy songs I've heard in my life.

i can think of a lot cringier songs from Tim or Don't Tell a Soul

Kidding about the bad track thing? "Gary's Got A Boner" is one of the most cringe-worthy songs I've heard in my life.

....yet still better than most of Tim.

People, people, dudes. Your sense of propriety is completely gayass! Gary's Got A Boner is an high quality rockin jam.

for real, plus duh it sounds like "cat scratch fever"

cringe-worthy sort of implies that it's done in earnest; but this is a joke song, top to bottom.

no--it's a metaphorical exploration into the journey of a young man's wrenching, yearning struggle with priapism

Answering Machine v. Unsatisfied. Thinkin' the latter.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Androgynous is one of the best examples ever recorded of the "less is more" minimalism style in pop/rock.

nah its just a song where they played piano

maybe, but it's not the initial meaning but the result that counts.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

In Trouble Boys, it's mentioned by Paul that he <almost> got involved with Winona around '89-'90, and they're still friends who joke about how they probably should have done it because people were shipping them anyway.

I dunno I guess I think of Pirner when I think of greasy, he's exceptionally greasy looking

She was a huge fan! It was not the other way around.

I remember being in my backyard reading a magazine in a hammock and reading that she was a huge fan and I was too. I noted I had something in common w her. Probably age 14-15.

That’s def a terrible sentence tho for sure

Given that Westerberg was 30 in '89 and Ryder was 18, and also given Westerberg being Westerberg, it's probably best for all involved that they didn't get all involved.

1000000% and it’s depressing to think he would even talk about it.

He was my dreamy imaginary boyfriend too, I get it. But it’s best kept in the realm of the imagination.

It sounds like it was

The party is over

So the box set has 2 demos of "Answering Machine" plus the current mix of the album version. A bunch of live stuff, mostly from a Cubby Bear gig, but also some from elsewhere.

"Perfectly Lethal" on there too iirc. And "Temptation Eyes," along with some other stuff from singles/EPs.

Such as "Heartbeat, It's a Lovebeat."

"20th Century Boy" and "Hey Good Lookin'"

Maybe this stuff was already on some previous reissue.

Yes, Let It Be (Expanded)

Since 2008.

Anyway there's no way this is gonna be as revelatory as DEAD MAN'S POP or the TIM remix.

Still, dutifully listen from the beginning until I get to the live stuff

Alternative version of "Sixteen Blue" is nice!

Outro guitar seems the same but other stuff is different.

There was a period after I read TROUBLE BOYS when I couldn't stand to listen to them.

Okay, the alternate versions and mixes winning me over.

On to the live material! Bob is still in the band so I am excited.

https://www.gq.com/story/when-the-replacements-courage-was-at-its-peak

^Just found this, which is presumably similar to what's in the physical package

Amazed I finished reading that before I finished listening

But it was well worth it

Beach Boys cover!

The bass player, the one with the Rod Stewart hair, is rubbing his eyes sleepily. Why is he tired? We can only conjecture, but it may have something to do with playing a late-night gig and then hustling off to class the following morning.

I always thought the Let It Be cover captured Tommy picking his nose!

You can pick your Rickenbacker...

I missed Elizabeth Nelson, journalist and Paranoid Style musician talking about Let it Be yesterday afternoon at a dc club with Jim Spellman who was in dc band Velocity Girl

Nelson wrote the liner notes for the box

Right

And that article is excerpted or adapted from those notes.

I've got to admit, sometimes I find Nelson a little too purple, or at least too Romantic, but I suppose it suits the Soul of Rock and Roll subject.

Anyway, in her piece:

Everything was on the table—Big Star and T. Rex and the Stones, sure, but also U2, Mott the Hoople, The Buzzcocks, Booker T., Eno, Ted Nugent, Elton John, and, obviously, KISS.

Eno?

If there is anything truly sad about The Replacements’ ample legacy, it’s the lack of recognition they receive as perhaps the preeminent working-class heroes operating between Phil Ochs and Public Enemy in terms of telling true and unglamorous stories about the working poor.

Public Enemy?

Had no idea Jessica Hopper was apparently friends with Bob, that's wild. She also observes in Nelson's piece:

The things that were happening on the coasts in 1985 were so indelibly, traditionally macho. Black Flag, Circle Jerks, the beginning of NYC hardcore. Let It Be functions in part as a critique of that failed masculinity. They’re saying, ‘If that’s what being a man is, I want to fail at it.’”

Which is true and not an original observation but intriguingly one that could be applied to a few different contemporaneous MN acts: the 'Mats (wore dresses or eye-liner, sung about insecurities), Husker Du (long-haired barefoot drummer, played poppy songs and pop covers, were mostly gay), but of course also Prince (who one could argue was actually so aggressively masculine/heterosexual he could get away with being feminine, not unlike the ascendant hair-metal gods of the West Coast). Something more than master tapes in the Mississippi, I guess.

Soul Asylum?

You know, I don't think I've ever listened to them!!

They ended up being viewed as a kind of cheesy band, I think, but back in the day they put on a great live show. Maybe they even have a recent album out.

I'd always heard they were a great live band (always winning Best Live Band polls and whatnot) but I just never got around to them. I think I know two songs from the hit album, I know Bob Mould produced an album and Steve Jordan (!?) produced an album, but if I ever bought one it was a cut-out cassette and made no impression. Dunno why. I never really listened to or got into Dinosaur Jr. or Buffalo Tom or Goo Goo Dolls, either.

Just came across a live album of theirs from 2004 that I never really listened to that I am about to check out.

Looking at these poll results is sort of crazy to me. Answering Machine is so clearly the best song on this album.

Anyway, the novel that I've been writing for the past year or so, and will probably continue writing for the next year, is titled "Sixteen Blue."

Wow, cool!

But this album has no real best song.

Although for me there is a worst, since I have never stopped resenting and disliking Peter Buck's contributions to "I Will Dare," pardon me if challops.

Agreed, shocking to me that people rate that one so high.

Also weird to me that people had crushes on Westerberg, when it's Tommy Stinson who is clearly the dreamboat of the group. Young Tommy was a total smokeshow imho

fwiw, I had no idea he was that young in some of the photographs of the young band— wasn't trying to be a creep. i always forget that Let it Be came out when he was like 17. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah, it's nuts, isn't it? I always thought the same thing, sorta. The big hair, looked like a rock star, not a kid. And then you see some of the formative photos, like this one:

https://img.apmcdn.org/f15e0095d743de67a7f1a393444781ece0e032e9/uncropped/d399c2-20140909-the-replacements.jpg

yeah, totally wild.

If not totally wired.

DoCan't u see?