has madonna worked with anyone relevant in the dance music world since like jellybean or chep nunez?

maybe im forgetting someone. paul oakenfold on the new album? isnt he like 80? whats her bag? she will probably have timbaland do her album in five years. and then have diplo do the one after that.

Stuart Price/Jacques LuCont?

Mirwais?

("relevant"-ness debatable, of course)

Talvin Singh lol

...

Timbaland and Pharrell already did a Madonna album (Hard Candy, which came out last year). Before that she worked with William Orbit and Mirwais.

So the answer is basically, no.

how many songs did timbaland do on her last album? still probably 10 years too late...

5

ps www.wikipedia.org is very helpful for questions like this

I mean if you're gonna lump timbaland and neptunes into "dance music" you could throw bloodshy and avant in there, but i think the question is about DANCE MUSIC not "pop music that people dance to"

she worked with a bunch of 90s R&B (not dance though, i know) producers on bedtime stories (dave hall, dallas austin, babyface etc). i think that was the last album of hers i really liked.

I think the question is more about relevant than it is about genre anyway and the answer is still no.

even nile rodgers was past his prime by the time madonna got him. okay, she's always been kind of slow, i guess.

I mean, all her official singles have lots of dance music people doing remixes if that counts

"Give It 2 Me" (Oakenfold Extended Remix) – 6:59

"Miles Away" (Aaron LaCrate & Samir B-More Gutter Remix)

That's 'relevant' and dressed in AmAppy for an 'alt-bro'

yeah, bedtime stories was good.

"Jump" (Jacques Lu Cont Mix)

"Get Together" (Tiefschwarz Remix)

I don't really consider those remixes "working with" though.

lol beat me to the lacrate joke

For all we know it's same label dude who's like "okay let's get X and Y and Z to do some stuff" and Madonna, maybe, signs off on the single.

xpost admitting that you knew that instead of just discovering it on wikipedia like I did is a much funnier joke

More to the point, Madonna works with minimal or blah talents and brings out their best before discarding them (Shep Pettibone, Andre Betts, William Orbit, Mirwais, Stuart Price)

well samir told me about the remix after he did it! xpost

i dont think shes ever been praised for being 'first' in finding a great talent, has she? who cares if shes a bit late or not though, the point is that even if say, nile rodgers wasnt at his peak (i wouldnt say he had fallen off though) when he worked with madonna, he still made a lot of brilliant songs with her. whether its *her* or just that these guys get excited to work with her so go all out for her (and cos they know its gonna be big too), i dunno, but she does usually get great results.

We're having this discussion in 2009? Which is to say, I'm surprised it's scott asking the question.

i just heard that she was making an album with oakenfold and he just seemed like yet another snooze in a long line of snoozers.

i didn't hear her last album though. it must be her best album ever with timbaland and the neptunes running things.

right?

yeah, when something boring happens after years of similar boring things happening i'm usually inspired to start a thread about it

it's my job to be perplexed by madonna until i die. doesn't matter what year it is.

I've always assumed she runs things. It's her name in the producer credits. "Open Your Heart," "Rain," "Take a Bow," and "Hung Up" sound more like Madonna music than Pettibone, Dallas Austin, and Stuart Price's stuff.

i didn't hear her last album though. it must be her best album ever with timbaland and the neptunes running things.

You would think this right up until you heard "Give It To Me".

xp "Hung Up" sounded like Price's remix of Gwen Stefani's "What You Waiting For," though.

'give it 2 me' was one of only two tracks i found tolerable on 'hard candy'!

this is the woman who signed battlecat to her label. i'll never understand that move.

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I think Stuart Price was pretty relevant, he hadn't yet come off his peak when Madonna worked with him.

I'm not sure about Pettibone's relevance circa 1990-1992 but he certainly perfected the house-crossover sound for her.

Nellee Hooper probably still halfway relevant in 1994 too.

i could have sworn i had a single where chep nunez did an edit/remix but i can't find anything so maybe i was thinking of shep all along so just pretend that shep is in the thread title. i did like the stuff that shep pettibone did with madonna. causing a commotion comes to mind.

sorry chep in heaven u know i love you. (listening now to the brilliant cyre single "last chance" on fresh that jose diaz and chep made and i've forgotten all about madonna....)

Stuart Price definitely. Confessions yielded her danciest stuff since Vogue.

The idea of a Diplo/Madonna collaboration seems disgustingly interesting imho.

yeah JLC totally wins tihs

i remember really liking the looooooooong remix of frozen that victor calderone did. don't think i liked the stereo mc's remix. i think i still have a copy. i should check.

Nellee Hooper probably still halfway relevant in 1994 too.

He produced Debut by Bjork in June of 93 and had a hand in Massive Attack's Protection in Jan of 94. Not my cup of tea theses days but those were both huge projects at the time.

I was also shocked to learn that he was behind Hella Good and It's My Life by No Doubt.

William Orbit and Mirwais. Not Nellee Hooper and absolutely not Shep Pettibone.

i thought the neptunes did hella good?

that's a dope song btw

I mean if you're gonna lump timbaland and neptunes into "dance music" you could throw bloodshy and avant in there, but i think the question is about DANCE MUSIC not "pop music that people dance to"

to be fair timbaland does bite so much basement jaxx that he's close enough

the real marc wouldn't say something like that

mysteriously she seems to have devoured JLC's powers - during the years he was just playing keyboards or being "musical director" for her he was also atop his Thin White Duke imperial period - then once they actually wrote and produced a whole album together his abilities and output both plummeted.

The idea of a Diplo/Madonna collaboration seems disgustingly interesting imho.

I liked the Diplo "remix" of Hung Up!

timbaland biting basement jaxx has me o_O

I wouldn't consider "Hung Up," "Get It Together," "Sorry," "Forbidden Love," or "Let It Will Be" dimunitions of creative powers.

i think it would have been cool if madonna adopted the approach she took for confessions of a dancefloor when she did hard candy i.e., got timbaland to record a bedroom producer style of album

I meant Lu Cont's lost it since Confessions, obviously it was fantastic!

Dissing Shep Pettibone is punishable by death. Srsly, you guys must be deaf.

i thought the neptunes did hella good?

― gabb 'bag (s1ocki), Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:28 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Pharrell & Chad played on and co-wrote it but Hooper produced it

Dissing Shep Pettibone is punishable by death. Srsly, you guys must be deaf.

only two people said anything halfway negative about Pettibone and one of them was Geir, way to strike a bold iconoclastic stance

Most people outside ILM agree that "Erotica" is (or at least was until 2003) her worst album. And Shep Bettibone is to blame for that.

Yet, she has yet to work with the people she should work with. I'd love to hear her working with Xenomania and/or Richard X - that would make for a great and very trendy and modern sounding (in a retro way) album.

to be fair timbaland does bite so much basement jaxx that he's close enough

― fauxmarc, Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:33 PM Bookmark

as if jaxx weren't biting timbo first

^^^what the fuck is this exchange even talking about

only in ilxworld are those artists even near each other in the same continuum imo

& alfred soto also called shep pettibone & stuart price 'marginal talents' -- which is so off tm

also so confused by jaymc saying 'hung up' sounds like the 'what you waiting for' remix -- its a disco loop of an abba song, there are def madonna-price songs that sound way closer to WYWF (like "sorry" for example)

"Jump" (Jacques Lu Cont Mix)

― the crying of lot 51 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I don't really consider those remixes "working with" though.

― Alex in SF, Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i would

& alfred soto

yes, Geir is not two people

I'd say Basement Jaxx and Timbaland rarely sound that much alike even when they're stepping into each other's general territory.

I think people just say this a lot b/c:

1) lol weird sounds
2) they're like the standard bearers for "interesting production" (re: lol weird sounds) in their respective genres

xpost deej maybe jaymc was hung up on the tic tocs.

The extended TWD remix of "Sorry" is totally mindblowing, like a tidal wave engulfing the dancefloor. Up there with his "Lose Control" and Fischerspooner remixes for its undeniable monolithic force. I have only recently come to know this.

yes, Geir is not two people

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jus sayin, kinda siding with pipecock here

Weird to see pipecock stick up for Shep though. I would have thought he would have been all DJ Sprinkles about "Vogue" etc.

The extended TWD remix of "Sorry" is totally mindblowing

is this the one he did under the man with guitar moniker? cuz that's banging

I'm not sure, it's the one that turns the bassy guitar-not-guitar riff into this endlessly expanding avalanche while robots chant "heard it all before, i've heard it all before" over and over and over.

yup that's the one!

1) WTF does "relevant" even mean?

2) She's MADONNA. She's still way cooler than you. No matter what? No matter what.

Actually although I see the logic of yr point (2) I think Madonna has been doing her best recently to really test the strength of that blanket claim.

"i thought the neptunes did hella good?"

i think i read that the neptunes did the song but gwen and co thought it sounded too much like any other of their productions for other artists and not different enough so they got nellee hooper to come in and re-do it.

Wiki says they share co-production credits, but doesn't go into the backstory.

Funny if Gwen and Co thought Neptunes were self-plagiarising in 2001.

i think she said it in blender... im guessing the sounds were stock-neptunes and they didnt want it to sound just like any old neptunes collabo.

I understand where they were coming from, in many ways the Neptunes sounded much more predictable in 2001 and 2002 (when they started expanding their range a bit). But by 2004 or so it was so much worse...

Jaxx definitely bit Timbaland on 'U Can't Stop Me' and 'Stop 4 Love' but in a very excellent way

& alfred soto also called shep pettibone & stuart price 'marginal talents' -- which is so off tm

Shep's remixes of "True Faith" and "Mr Brightside" are two of my favorite pieces of music of the last 20 years, but, yes, next to Madonna, I consider his talent less than hers.

*er, and Stuart Price's remix of "Mr Brightside"

I briefly got very excited over the prospect of a SHEP PETTIBONE remix of "Mr Brightside".

re: "Hella Good" -- dunno what wiki says but like i said upthread, the album liner notes say Hooper produced and Williams/Hugo co-wrote and played on it...ND probably re-recorded it w/ another producer because with a readymade Neptunes beat there'd be no need for the band's drummer/bassist/guitarist to be on the track at all.

You know who she should work with more? Michel Colombier. I love his string arrangements on that Bond song. Did he do the ones for "Frozen"?

Shep Pettibone made some cool 12 inch mixes in the 80s for various people. The stuff he did for Madonna was just recycling everything that was wrong about early 90s music though.

I'M NOT AT ALL INTERESTED IN TOILETS!

I mean, RELEVANCE!

Based on their remix of "Sorry," I'd actually like to see Madonna get a full-on Pet Shop Boys production/co-writing job. Their perspectives would probably mesh in really interesting ways.

I say this having pretty much given up on both entities as exciting makers of new music, though I still love 'em both as aging icons. But still, why not?

And yeah, PSB would be about as un-"relevant" as it gets, which is why I like the idea better than her hooking up with Knifehandchop or whatever. (haha Knifehandchop)

haha

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