The Best Song on The-Dream's Love vs. Money

hmmmmmmmmm so many choices - i feel like im totally drained of thoughts about this album. i guess i would choose "right side of my brain" or maybe "love vs money" - "mr yeah" has crazy things going on and i always forget how amazing the outro is. "kelly's 12 play" is maybe lyrically the best song of dream's career. "fancy" is like a monument basically, and the transition to the rap verse is one of my favorite parts of the album. "put it down" and "sweat it out" are amazing - esp the way "sweat it out" starts so exultantly, but those are two songs where i look back on l/h and go "yeah 'falsetto' and 'purple kisses' and 'luv songs' are better" and the singles are great songs but probably my three least favorite songs on the album except for maybe "my love" but i played that one out. i don't think i loooove "take u home 2 my mama" texturally, it's kind of trebly and flat and though i certainly do love it as i do all songs on this album, i wouldn't consider it for the title of best song even despite HER TITTIES LIKE WOOOHOOOOOHH. "love vs money 2" is great in tandem with "love vs money" but i think the first song is better and could stand alone whereas "love vs money 2" is a great song that works best as a transition between "love vs money" and "fancy". i did not consider voting for "let me see the booty"

i will choose amongst "fancy"/"right side"/"mr yeah"/"kellys 12 play" and then regret my choice

For me it's "Fancy" or "Right Side" but I basically endorse Jordan's handwringing above.

'fancy'. it's v much a default answer, much like 'deeper & deeper' is always my answer to "what's your favourite madonna song", b/c it could so easily be anything else at any given time, but there it is. it's the lynchpin of the album for sure.

yeah basically agree w/ jordan as well -- thats absolutely the heart of the album

voted kelly's 12play for fun

This video is actually what convinced me to get the album. Something about all of the fun he clearly had recording "Put It Down."

http://www.prefixmag.com/news/video-of-the-dream-in-the-studio-making-my-love-an/27317/

too soon

but it's between "rockin that shit" and "fancy", and i'll prob vote "fancy"

put it down or right side of the brain is my initial thought. take you home through fancy is almost too much of a suite for me to pick one. i did finally learn the other day that fancy is mindfuckingly amazing on headphones but (and i mean this in the best way possible) it's almost too much song. i think if i were to just put on one track from this album it would be right side.

only joints i did not consider voting 4 were 'my love', '12-play, & 'booty'. think the best song is prob 'fancy' but i voted 'mr. yeah'

Great album all around. I voted for the title track as it's received the most plays from me.

FANCY

right side of my brain sticks in my head the most, but honestly my favorite moment of the album is the segue between take you home to my mama -> love vs. money

don't really care for fancy, why do you guys love it so much

because u don't

joeks. i dunno i haven't even listened to this LP much but drifted along pleasantly and then the final track just stood out sounding hazier, more lucid and generally elsewhere and i always dig that

fancy is the final track in the uk?

i will choose amongst "fancy"/"right side"/"mr yeah"/"kellys 12 play" and then regret my choice

― s1ocked up, they won't let me out (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:27 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fancy is the final track in the uk?

oh i probably just listened to it in the wrong order (doin this now and then without realising i've left shuffle button on - what a disaster for artists original intentions)

you are a disaster. the album flows effortlessly from one song to the next and you are listening in shuffle mode.

imo "Take You Home" or "Sweat It Out" or "Mr. Yeah" could've been big radio hits in the vein of his first album's singles, they really fucked up by playing up the songs w/ big guest stars

kanye's verse seriously makes me want to strangle someone

you are a disaster. the album flows effortlessly from one song to the next and you are listening in shuffle mode.

^^^aagh yes. honestly steve, how could you not even notice the abrupt endings where the songs didn't flow into each other!

you are a disaster. the album flows effortlessly from one song to the next and you are listening in shuffle mode.

yeah they should just make albums one complete track so this terrible catastrophe never occurs

^def agree about "take you home" and "mr yeah" (the latter especially) being prime singles choices, though i do love "rockin that shit" and "my love" too. "sweat it out" might be a bit dense/layered for radio, and its tempo might not be ideal for summer jam candidacy

xp cutty holy shit i forgot "walkin on the moon" is a single :( not a bad song but it's got to be the worst on the album

that (^) was to some dude's post

"walking on the moon" i've decided isn't that bad but it's one of those weird songs where the verse and pre-chorus melodies are killer and then the chorus is just totally dead weight.

"sweat it out" would/could be the album's big quiet storm legacy song imo

althought i wouldn't mind hearing 808s and heartbreak re-done with the-dream on vox

RADIO KILLA

between My Love, Mr. Yeah and Kelly's 12 Play for me. Fancy and the title track are undeniable too. i might have to give it to My Love for how surprising it is that i like it so much

"walking on the moon" i've decided isn't that bad but it's one of those weird songs where the verse and pre-chorus melodies are killer and then the chorus is just totally dead weigh

this is exactly right, and I couldn't understand my near-instant dislike (besides hating the spongy organ).

althought i wouldn't mind hearing 808s and heartbreak re-done with the-dream on vox

― cutty, Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:53 PM (26 seconds ago)

oh man keep some dude away from sharp objects if this happens

oh i prob meant to post this somewhere but the-dream agrees with what rev said somewhere else about 'take u home 2 my mama' secretly being a country song.

'walkin on the moon' is a fine track, i really like that the first third of the album consists of exquisitely executed generic radio jams w/glittering star cameos, kanye and mariah just doing what they do - lays the groundwork nicely for the album's lurch into WHOA blowing my mind territory. i even love the first half of kanye's verse - "i swear god must've made lightning strike and bottled it up, it hit the red carpet and modelled it up" is so great. pity he totally undoes it all immediately with "after i pound you" ughhhhh.

i think the one i turn to most if i just want to her one song rather than the whole album is 'mr yeah'

lol...i actually think the supposed (but will probably never happen) kanye/dream joint album could be dope, if kanye brings tricky/los into his production team. imo the-dream vox >>>> kanye autotune

i really like that the first third of the album consists of exquisitely executed generic radio jams w/glittering star cameos, kanye and mariah just doing what they do - lays the groundwork nicely for the album's lurch into WHOA blowing my mind territory.

The right side of your brain?

i even love the first half of kanye's verse - "i swear god must've made lightning strike and bottled it up, it hit the red carpet and modelled it up" is so great. pity he totally undoes it all immediately with "after i pound you" ughhhhh.

― lex pretend, Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:59 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

imo what makes the verse cross over into completely terrible is when he rhymes "blackberry" with..."mackberry"

don't really care for fancy, why do you guys love it so much

― cutty, Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:26 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

pretty epic build & release on that one.

love the racing torrent of strings just before the drums answer where he says stuff like "they say love cant buy money / they're lying"

i'll try to get into it. i usually skip it.

yeah it's def a song that took me a few listens to appreciate. the drums at the end are fucking huge and awesome

"every one out there will know that you are my girl" is probably my favourite melody on the album.

^^^

Went with the title track on instinct but it could just as well be "Put It Down" or "Fancy" or "Mr. Yeah"

oh i prob meant to post this somewhere but the-dream agrees with what rev said somewhere else about 'take u home 2 my mama' secretly being a country song.

vindicated

imo what makes the verse cross over into completely terrible is when he rhymes "blackberry" with..."mackberry"

― conansformers 2: revenge of the fallon (some dude), Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:17 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

loooooooool this is so otm - this continuously puzzles me and i always think to myself "you know what im not going to even bother looking up the lyrics"

as for "fancy", like everyone says it's such a great slow-burner of a song that it gets to the point where merely the addition of the drums ups the drama of the album immensely - also "fancy" is so integral because it really is like dream is building up this great love life of jet setting and fucking in gucci stores and then he totally tears it down with "right side of my brain" - the two songs are really important to each other. and then "mr yeah" is like "fuck it!! girls are awesome im the best at fucking!!!" and then "mr yeah" ends the album in his bedroom <3

aaaaanyway im gonna vote for "right side of my brain" for the build up in the last 40 seconds or so where the drums pick up

i agree that he's a retard for not releasing "sweat it out" or "put it down" but idk about "mr yeah" - it's definitely a great summer pop song but i think it might remind too many people of "touch my body" to really be a huge success

one of my favorite parts on the whole album is right at the beginning of "right side of my brain" when his voice is suuuuper autotuned and he goes "fell in love with a real heartbreaker/ and there's nothing i can dooo, to shake her" - part gets stuck in my head all the time

tbh this is why I don't really like the "tracks" thing and always make singles lists, for P&J or whatever -- a straight list of my favorite songs of the year would be so redundant with my albums list and would feature so many tracks by the same people over and over that I'd rather just stick to singles as a medium in and of itself.

anyway i REALLY object to the idea that "Fancy" is universally agreed upon as the best song from this album, since again it didn't win this poll, and it's not even in the top half for me.

― some dude, Monday, December 14, 2009 8:46 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

the album is too well-rounded to bicker about a consensus standout track anyways.

xp: as if the US gvmt has the slightest modicum of control over public radio

I get what you're saying, but don't tell me that Clear Channel isn't empowered by a lack of anti-monopoly laws, either. Government does have an effect, however subtle, on most every sector of business out there. Radio is no exception.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, December 14, 2009 2:06 PM Bookmark

that was supposed to say "private radio". oops.

and year end lists are all abt being representational

― plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, December 14, 2009 5:28 PM (2 hours ago)

not to pick on you here but, uh, since when are end-of-year tracks lists supposed to be representational of their albums?

― k3vin k., Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:08 AM (5 hours ago)

nah, by representational I meant that, you know with pitchfork they want a list that shows off the full extent of their aesthetic, their ecectecism and weird wildcards that show how they can look outside their standard field of focus to find things that complement or offset their musical landscape

I suspect you're drawing a bit of a bow from pitchfork's historical love of remixes - but the thing with remixes is that, esp. for the period 2004-2006, when it came to dance music non-dance fans were much more likely to be into remixes of things than they were to be into original dance music tracks.

Pitchfork has never particularly celebrated R&B or hip hop non-singles in its end of year polls - non-single rap tracks that did well have almost always been radio hits at the very least.

looking for 'fancy' would be like me expecting, i dunno, 'my shadow' to be gucci's token critic pick this year

tbh "my shadow" is definitely the standout gucci track of 09 for me, and of everything he released probably has the most critical catnip

for some reason i didn't realise we were talking about the pfork list last night, so all i have to say now is "fuck it, who cares".

non-single rap tracks that did well have almost always been radio hits at the very least.

that's not entirely true, as i alluded to before, stuff like "Georgia Bush" and random Clipse mixtape tracks weren't radio hits. but yeah generally those are the exceptions that prove the rule.

tbh "my shadow" is definitely the standout gucci track of 09 for me, and of everything he released probably has the most critical catnip

― lex pretend, Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:44 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

my personal experience suggests otherwise, which surprised me -- i had assumed it would be a big deal

which one did you find worked instead?

haha 'wasted' obv

IS HE ANY GOOD FROM THE BACK?

iirc he put it down

He's all up on me like a monst... er, wait.

call me ali the way i knocked your ass out

that line takes a bit of a u_u context for me in the wake of chris brown

yeah tru, it's just been way up in my head today

i'm increasingly coming around to the idea that the answer to this question is "kelly's 12 play"

"i'm finna stunt like my daddy up in here" is a pretty hilarious and weird lyric in the context of this song

i just noticed a really awesome lyric on "ditch that..." that i had never noticed

(during the bridge)

enter the phantom, proceed to creep
exit the phantom, up in them sheets

she spends her time
aboard yachts if not, somewhere tasting wine
in paris *accordion* seducing me while we dine

she's the dream of a billion men

lol @ a billion

lol

Um....hey guys.

Were we aware of "Touch and Feel"? Because somehow I missed out on it until today. Apparently the UK got different iTunes bonus tracks and one of them was this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLmnNjH0s9k

Boring.

my terius unreleased top ten:

1) i'm not ok
2) like i do
3) zodiac
4) tears fall
5) should've been you
6) ever since
7) hit it on the road
8) tipper love
9) hard to find
10) something new

maybe hit it on the road was released? if so could substitute with 'they don't know me'. some of the other mariah demos + 'bed' are also incredible but feels a bit unfair somehow to include.

i don't think "hit it on the road" was released but it's probably in my all-time terius top 10, not just unreleased

NOW LET THAT 808 BEAT UP ON YO AZZ~~

whaaat hit it on the road suxx

nah i love the way it grinds, it's a surprisingly effective club banger

patron....in my system

My top ten Terius songs that haven't even been written yet, but I already know will be awesome:

1) Aggressively Chomping
2) Motionless Contaminates
3) Inside-Out Vandals
4) Inquisitively Quivering
5) Frozen Misfortune of Yesteryear
6) Fantastic Rage
7) Timid Lobsters
8) Genial Exploration
9) Vibrating Madness
10) Orchestral Relics with Colorless Rondo

now expand to 64 and bracketize

hit it on the road was released as part of the deluxe edition of love vs. money. it's on Canadian iTunes at the very least.

xxp u forgot 11) Lord Custos

Cause WHEN LOVE IS THE PROBLEM, NOTHING CAN SOLLLLLLLLLLLLVE IT

Whoever did this is a total hero imo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRbK61TjWLo

who's in love with your ass like crazy?

haven't listened to this in a long time, should pull it out

i have all 3 dream albs plus my fav etc tracks in 1 playlist that i bump constantly

i thnk i voted mr yeah but it changes all the time, obv fancy is a killer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B-EcZ59Ia8

yooooooo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27gi7YkyPkc

(((d-_-b)))

I know it hasn't even been three years yet, but I want a special edition of this album so fucking bad. There's gotta be at least a disc's worth of outtakes and studio odds and ends, right?

this should have been the video for "fancy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRbK61TjWLo

oh lol i posted that a long time ago

i have an all-LOS playlist i've been meaning to burn to disc for a while, maybe i'll post the tracklist and see if anyone can point out anything i forgot

― some dude, Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:31 AM (3 years ago)

!!

this is how I know kev is sad, he's bumping dream threads

yeah i'm just reading all of them atm

this album was released ten years ago today

"The Right Side of My Brain," ILX?