at a recent concert in manchester neil sedaka claimed he was first, in 1961 with 'calendar girl'. is that right?
― NI, Saturday, 27 June 2009 14:54 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-WZRUIfHjo
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 June 2009 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
Flm of musicians synced up to sound go back to the twenties as Scott suggests. The music vid as we know it today really came into being in the fourties with the 'Soundies' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundies Sedaka must have been well aware of these way before 1961.
― DJ Angoreinhardt (Billy Dods), Saturday, 27 June 2009 15:27 (fifteen years ago)
that's really interesting, thanks. what about the first video after the charts began?
― NI, Saturday, 27 June 2009 19:56 (fifteen years ago)
Related question: who did the first video that wasn't just a filmed performance? Cab Calloway starring in a Betty Boop cartoon in 1932?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po9MAIgBZ10
― kickstand. kickstand? kickstand! (los blue jeans), Saturday, 27 June 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, there was definitely filmed stuff by the forties, though sometimes people talk about the Scopitone system (sort of a 16mm video jukebox) as having the first recognizably modern videos. But the first ones were French, and Gainsbourg was one of the first performers to be featured.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopitone
― Michael Train, Saturday, 27 June 2009 20:24 (fifteen years ago)
As another kind of answer, "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen is generally seen as the first music video that was made to actively use commercially to market the track.
― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 27 June 2009 23:45 (fifteen years ago)
1439. The first "promo video" wasn't a video at all! In 1830 Felix Mendelssohn commisioned a series of Magic Lantern slides of his recent holiday in Scotland, to be shown at concert performances of The Hebrides overture when he was too wasted to attend in person.
― Pimp My Hearse (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2009 23:48 (fifteen years ago)
"As another kind of answer, "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen is generally seen as the first music video that was made to actively use commercially to market the track."
TONS of bands did this in the 60's. the list is endless. ever hear of a group called the monkees?
here's a fave of mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ43oz_qVxc
― scott seward, Sunday, 28 June 2009 00:55 (fifteen years ago)
Don't know why I never thought to search for "Scopitone" in YouTube.
These appealed right off the bat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRVRABS2y68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdUX_C77mE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjOpTXzxxSI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0felK0GdLQ
― Michael Train, Sunday, 28 June 2009 01:18 (fifteen years ago)
The Bobby Vee is exceptional. Feels more like an 80s vid than the others do. And riding a scooter has never been quite so blatant a stand-in for sex as here.
― Michael Train, Sunday, 28 June 2009 01:22 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsnJ9jh9hik
― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 28 June 2009 01:56 (fifteen years ago)
what was the first "video" actually shot on video?
― velko, Sunday, 28 June 2009 02:03 (fifteen years ago)
if we're gonna go in this direction we might as well just say "Video Killed the Radio Star"
― ümürgüncü (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 28 June 2009 02:27 (fifteen years ago)
yeah the bobby vee video is ridiculously great.
so if we narrow it down to english-speaking chart-era pop, then does neil sedaka have a fair point? (calendar girl was actually 1960, according to wikipeda)
― NI, Sunday, 28 June 2009 14:03 (fifteen years ago)
But when exactly does chart-era pop begin? There were record charts in Billboard well before rock and roll/the 1950s/Elvis/etc.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 28 June 2009 14:18 (fifteen years ago)
true, lets say from 1952 onwards, from the first proper UK charts (but feel free to post any notable exceptions)
― NI, Sunday, 28 June 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago)
love the serge & bobby vee.here's one of my favourite early ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kKU1S0lWxo
― zappi, Sunday, 28 June 2009 16:08 (fifteen years ago)
Their performances were part of a TV series, just like Elvis' performances were part of his movies. etc.
I am speaking of specifically creating one video for one song, with no other purpose than to get it on TV to sell that one song.
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 28 June 2009 23:32 (fifteen years ago)
um, the monkees were trying to sell singles. but like i said, lots of other bands made promo clips in the 60's in order to sell singles and albums. maybe you've heard of this little-known group:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7NoOhmVMac
― scott seward, Monday, 29 June 2009 01:03 (fifteen years ago)
Goddamn, I came on here specifically to post that Hut Sut video. Curse you, zappi! However, I cannot find that version of the Hut Sut Song anywhere on mp3 or record - there's a million other versions, but that's far and away my favourite.
― emil.y, Monday, 29 June 2009 01:11 (fifteen years ago)
Seems pretty clear: Neil Sedaka and Geir Hongro are both dipshits who don't know anything about the world outside their mirrors.
― fucken cumstomers (sic), Monday, 29 June 2009 01:26 (fifteen years ago)
I don't know how you objectively determine who was "first," but I've seen the Big Booper cited in a few different places:
There have been many claims on who made the first music video, with groups such as the Beatles, Who and Kinks often cited as examples. Some have claimed that Ricky Nelson made the first music video in 1961. However, three years earlier in 1958, the Big Bopper actually recorded three music videos for his songs: "Chantilly Lace", "Big Bopper's Wedding" and "Little Red Riding Hood" (all 3 videos were recorded the same day). Plus, he also coined the term "rock video" in a printed interview in 1959. According to Bill Griggs, editor of the "Rockin' 50s" music magazine, the Big Bopper was convinced that video was the wave of the future and, at the time of his death, he was preparing to start production on music videos for TV and a specially designed jukebox which would play videos.
http://www.earcandymag.com/rrcase-bigbopper.htm
― xhuxk, Monday, 29 June 2009 01:32 (fifteen years ago)
Another one from 1932:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVIb72b12OI
― Eazy, Monday, 29 June 2009 01:34 (fifteen years ago)
xpost If we're talking promo videos specifically intended to help sell a product, "Strawberry Fields" may have been the first, except I was pretty sure they also made videos for "Rain" and "Paperback Writer."
― billstevejim, Monday, 29 June 2009 16:38 (fifteen years ago)
A lot of people consider "Subterranean Homesick Blues" as a video even though it was pulled from a full-length film.
― billstevejim, Monday, 29 June 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
i never said strawberry fields was the first anything! i was merely showing geir yet another example of an idea that had been around for years if not decades before bohemian rhapsody.
― scott seward, Monday, 29 June 2009 17:02 (fifteen years ago)
can't find these big bopper videos on youtube, only a live performance of 'chantilly lace'. did they get released? if so i think that's the closest we're gonna get to the first pop-era music video.
― NI, Monday, 29 June 2009 20:46 (fifteen years ago)