― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Classic, if just for Common People alone. All the rest of it is just dressing. They've done enough top stuff to forgive the crap they did pre-His 'n' Hers, as well. Hell, they'd get classic even if all they ever did was Jarvis's behavior at the Brits re: Michael Jackson.
And they certainly help their case in that Jarvis was also involved in the most fantastic song ever, Set The Controls For The Heart of the Pelvis.
― Ally, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Johnathan, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I remember a great interview with Arab Strap which was all bah we hate Pulp they pretend to be filthy and sordid but they prettify everything, it is WE who are filthy and sordid. So some people don't like them.
Classic. I'll probably get bored later on - well I'm bored now but you know what I mean - and try and explain why a bit more.
― Tom, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― scott plagenhoef, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― james e l, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
but still: classic. one of the few bands in these here modern times who never cease to put out something i enjoy. hopefully that streak will continue with the new album -- the live songs i've heard from it, or that are supposed to be from it, anyway, are great but they say that it's never good when it takes a band forever to complete an album and there are stories of the whole thing being scrapped and re-recorded...but they say a lot of things, don't they? besides, scott walker and marianne faithfull attached to the project? how can it go wrong! it's a 60s freak-out party!
― fred solinger, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Bill
― Bill, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― DG, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Pulp as a band I think are pretty mediocre to be honest. I wouldn’t care if he dumped them and went to work with someone new. I liked his work with All Seeing Eye musically more than anything Pulp have recorded. So Pulp dud, Jarvis potential classic but too early to call.
― Guy, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
The things that some people have been criticizing them for, like the ott factor, are part of what makes their music so good. They're not afraid to go over the top; something they have in common with great pop music. Indie bands tend to try for the "tastefully restrained" approach far too often.
And I don't think there's anything twee about Pulp -- there's a bitterness and desperation that's a subtext to too many of the songs to qualify for that. People tend to play up the lyrics when talking about Pulp, but I think the music is pretty excellent as well. Their sound was always a little too much in love with chart pop and disco to ever fall victim to the grey and plodding behemoth known as Britpop.
AND even if His N Hers, A Different Class and This Is Hardcore were not three of my favorite albums, I am such a pathetic and sad Scott Walker fan that I would immediately rate any band that let him produce their record. ;-)
― Nicole, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
His'n'Hers and Different Class alone are enough: classic. How they redeemed the mid-90s for me; the Pinefox's counter-argument is tempting but a classic misunderstanding of a band through discredit- by-association.
― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I'm sure the curse of Momus would have put Pulp somewhere between World of Twist and Denim. And Michael Jackson, his sails full of the wind of unchallenged messianic megalomania, would have made five brilliant new pop albums all produced by Cornelius.
― Momus, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― alex thomson, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― ernest, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Within two days stevie t mentions the heartstopping 'days in the trees' by Noman and now yous mention the wonderful WORLD OF tWIST, ILILM.
― Geordie Racer, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― EdwardO, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
"In conclusion/A meaning wasn't had/Reflecting on the situation/Of a problem/Again."
Not appearing on the "Pyramid Song" B-side anytime soon.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Omar, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
but i almost never play them anymore. somehow, its seems too reminiscent of 1995. it seems almost wrong to play them now, out of that context (speaking subjectively here). this is a shame really, because they are such a classic. i hardly play stereolab any more either.
sometimes bands seems very tied to a particular era, and its difficult to extricate them from that.
everything post-different class is slightly disappointing
― gareth, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
they were good too. regardless of barney sumner's 'we are weird' comments on jukebox jury
*OK not complete. The "She's A Rainbow" cover is best ignored and I've never, alas, heard "The Sausage".
― Tom, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Snub TV, circa 1990. World of Twist playing 'The Storm' and then being interviewed.
"We definitely see ourselves as a pop band, not rock" says the monkey boy leader. Much nodding of heads from the other band members.
I sit there and think "Yeah yeah, like you're so radical for saying that. God this indieboy pro-pop thing is starting to annoy me"
The funny thing is, looking back I'm not even sure why I thought this. Whose line did I think World of Twist were parroting? It wasn't like I was familiar with early 80s NME rhetoric. How did I get so opinionated so young? Maybe I just thought they'd nicked ideas I'd started to have about pop music and were cross that they'd made a hash of it.
Pulp: CLASSIC by the way, but I completely sympathise with pinefox's attempt to locate his problem with consensus outside the trappings of moronic snobbery. Don't understand why everyone is going on about 'Common People'. If ever there was a song that has been completely newtered through overexposure, that is it. I tend to skip it when I listen to 'Different Class' now.
What I find weird about 'This Is Hardcore' is that it contains perhaps their two finest achievements in the title track and 'The Fear', one pretty good track in 'Help the Aged', and then the rest is just treading water. Seriously, when I first put on the album and heard the opening track, I thought it was going to be the best record ever made. Then that godawful line about sharing the same initials as Jesus came on (is there anything more annoying than when he repeats it at the end of the song in case you didn't catch how clever it was the first time round?) and disillusion set in once more. *sigh*
― Nick, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
great to know I'm not the only one to still be into world of twist too - can I be a smartarse and say I've got the "blackpool tower suite" 12"?
― norman fay, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
That said, it's quite a while since I've played any of their albums.
― Robin Carmody, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― sundar subramanian, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
intro.
― gareth, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ally C, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― and i fantasize about english countrysides when listening to yes, too, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
(not that anyone I've ever met talks or, indeed, sings like that.)
― Robin Carmody, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
My god. I'm selling the rest of my CDs and just keeping the Pulp, any bidders?
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Larcole (Nicole), Friday, 8 August 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 August 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)
Is this a Pulp lyric? It's amazing whatever it is.
― Kris (aqueduct), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Larcole (Nicole), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 8 August 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 August 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:05 (twenty years ago)
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:08 (twenty years ago)
(Or to be accurate, $99.50 + $3.00 handling fee + $20.65 service fee)
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 14:21 (four months ago)
Feel like it might be funny to make a video mocking some of the AI problems - extra fingers, feet swapped - with practical effects. I dunno if the joke would come across though
That was mr kinder's halloween costume!
― kinder, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 18:03 (four months ago)
Jarv, I know you read this thread. Hire mr kinder to do the next one
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 20:04 (four months ago)
New Pulp track will be released today
We're getting a new Pulp single today! pic.twitter.com/9r4PYtWYZJ— daily pulp (@pulptoday) May 22, 2025
― djmartian, Thursday, 22 May 2025 11:05 (three months ago)
awesome. i loved "spike island."
― treeship., Thursday, 22 May 2025 12:44 (three months ago)
I am enjoying “Spike Island” quite a bit.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 22 May 2025 15:05 (three months ago)
And here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_xnLmRz6XM
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:04 (three months ago)
uptempo and optimistic
― djmartian, Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:11 (three months ago)
this is fine but why is it so compressed? same problem as the last one
― ufo, Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:42 (three months ago)
James Ford
― Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:57 (three months ago)
there's plenty of stuff he's worked on that doesn't sound like this though idk
― ufo, Thursday, 22 May 2025 21:06 (three months ago)
“Without life you’re just/Jerking off/Inside someone else”🤔
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 23 May 2025 02:22 (three months ago)
Err, **love** not life
can't say I've ever done that. does he really say "say it, ya nonce" around the 3 min mark?
― kinder, Friday, 23 May 2025 13:21 (three months ago)
xpost Zombie sex fiends everywhere objecting.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 May 2025 15:07 (three months ago)
does he really say "say it, ya nonce" around the 3 min mark?
Think it's "ponce"
― Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 24 May 2025 07:00 (three months ago)
their old records are really compressed too, the Britpop sound
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Saturday, 24 May 2025 09:13 (three months ago)
Different Class and This Is Hardcore especially (original editions) are quite dynamic for the era. WLL is brickwalled
― PaulTMA, Saturday, 24 May 2025 11:10 (three months ago)
I disagree, at least on Different Class. The drums are all smack and no body, the vocals super sibilant. Dense mixes with a ton of bus compression. I like that sound, not a diss at all.
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Sunday, 25 May 2025 05:06 (three months ago)
Well the overall mastering is reasonably dynamic https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/209546
― PaulTMA, Sunday, 25 May 2025 14:33 (three months ago)
“Without life you’re just/Jerking off/Inside someone else”
🤔
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, May 23, 2025 2:22 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Just heard this on the radio and "jerking" (and most of "off") is censored.
― Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 25 May 2025 19:01 (three months ago)
I know Pulp have talked about Springsteen influences before but this sounds almost Southside Johnny to me, maybe it’s just the refrain though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6n21vZIOEQ
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 26 May 2025 19:13 (three months ago)
I think this album deserves its own thread, T minus 24 hours or so.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 4 June 2025 01:34 (three months ago)
I can’t believe I’m listening to a new Pulp album, “Grown Ups”!!!
― Murgatroid, Friday, 6 June 2025 03:15 (three months ago)
How dare you. (In that I still have forty minutes to go.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 June 2025 03:22 (three months ago)
However, as I agree with Bee OK there:
Pulp -- More
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 June 2025 03:23 (three months ago)
I Enjoyed the Pulp show in dc at Anthem Saturday night. Big band, good backing visuals, Jarvis moving around a lot and sounding strong. He also threw grapes from one pocket of his jacket to people in the crowd, some other small mints or something from his other jacket pocket, a 930 club t-shirt ( in honor of that being where Pulp did their first dc gig years ago), plus some other stuff.
For the encores the drummer came out in Free DC shirt and a keyboardist in another type of pro dc shirt . The set was similar to what they had done in Atlanta earlier with just a few changes
― curmudgeon, Monday, 8 September 2025 05:47 (one week ago)
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/pulp/2025/the-anthem-washington-dc-5346a341.html
― curmudgeon, Monday, 8 September 2025 05:48 (one week ago)
Not all of the set worked and Cocker’s vocals weren’t loud enough all the time, but they kept the set varied a bit ( a small acoustic portion with the core members meant to resemble them getting back together in a bar awhile back when they were deciding whether to get back together and play and tour
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 9 September 2025 14:55 (six days ago)
Pulp on the front cover of the new issue of UNCUT on sale this Friday
Uncut November 2025https://www.uncut.co.uk/publications/uncut-november-2025-151317/
PULP: It’s been a vintage year for Pulp: a No 1 album with More, a triumphant world tour, the deluxe reissue of Different Class, a Mercury Prize nomination… and now their first UNCUT cover story. Jarvis Cocker, Candida Doyle, Nick Banks and Mark Webber reflect on the 40 songs that define their extraordinary trajectory from Sheffield outsiders to pop’s most unlikely national treasures.
More details:
1/4 Good afternoon! Those #MercuryPrize nominees @welovepulp take their first-ever @uncutmagazine cover, reflecting on the 40 songs that shaped their extraordinary journey from Sheffield outsiders to unlikely national treasures. There's a CD too... >>> pic.twitter.com/a2s10PvW74— Michael Bonner (@MichaelBonner) September 10, 2025
― djmartian, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 20:29 (five days ago)
Made a last minute decision to go tomorrow
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 September 2025 02:33 (four days ago)
You won’t regret it
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 11 September 2025 20:36 (four days ago)
perfect night for it
― bulb after bulb, Thursday, 11 September 2025 20:37 (four days ago)
Heh, I am in the very last row but it's not that big of a stadium so it's cool.
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 September 2025 22:53 (four days ago)
Just now had a flashback to seeing Elvis Costello here decades ago with Talk Talk as openers.
https://www.elviscostello.info/wiki/index.php/Concert_1982-08-27_New_York
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 September 2025 22:56 (four days ago)
It is not that crowded at all yet here for the opener.
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 September 2025 23:01 (four days ago)
Hamilton Leithauser of The Walkmen.
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 September 2025 23:04 (four days ago)
That was pretty fun. Good celebrity sighting too. Subway station is packed.
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 September 2025 02:19 (three days ago)
I was there too! And it was so, so awesome, exactly what we needed (“we” meaning me and everyone bopping along with me on the GA floor) at this time and on this day. As Neil Kulkarni once said, “where Oasis bequeathed condescension and Blur bequeathed caricature, Pulp, more than any other 90s group, gave us compassion, something entirely different, something to live your life by, something that can sustain you.” (I don’t dislike Oasis and I do love Blur, but point taken.)
Which celebrities were there? I think I saw Ira Robbins on the way out but no one else familiar.
― birdistheword, Friday, 12 September 2025 04:41 (three days ago)
Jennifer Connelly!
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 September 2025 04:42 (three days ago)
She was waiting on the long merch line at the end with her significant other.
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 September 2025 04:43 (three days ago)
Ah, missed them - I even stopped by the merch table on the way out to check if they ever got the signed vinyl promised on social media but they never did (nor any vinyl of “More,” never mind signed).
― birdistheword, Friday, 12 September 2025 05:07 (three days ago)
According to a Pulp Instagram Fan account, Michael Stipe was also in attendance. I was there and thought they sounded tighter than a year ago in Brooklyn. Just wish they could have played a few more songs (ending on 'a sunset' was a poor choice)
― jbn, Friday, 12 September 2025 16:47 (three days ago)
Stipe I didn’t see this time. I heard the better than Brookyn thing from someone else as well.
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 September 2025 18:31 (three days ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR5xGHPUEew
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 September 2025 14:20 (two days ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXtVjFbGQ7E
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 September 2025 01:12 (fourteen hours ago)
^Took me a few beats to find the source of this video which was part of the presentation
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 September 2025 12:09 (three hours ago)
Before the dc show there was like half hour or more video montage of old clips like that . I thought it was like Esther Williams excerpts with all the water gymnastics
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 September 2025 13:55 (one hour ago)
Yeah, there was some of her too.
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 September 2025 13:57 (one hour ago)