― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Classic, if just for Common People alone. All the rest of it is just dressing. They've done enough top stuff to forgive the crap they did pre-His 'n' Hers, as well. Hell, they'd get classic even if all they ever did was Jarvis's behavior at the Brits re: Michael Jackson.
And they certainly help their case in that Jarvis was also involved in the most fantastic song ever, Set The Controls For The Heart of the Pelvis.
― Ally, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Johnathan, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I remember a great interview with Arab Strap which was all bah we hate Pulp they pretend to be filthy and sordid but they prettify everything, it is WE who are filthy and sordid. So some people don't like them.
Classic. I'll probably get bored later on - well I'm bored now but you know what I mean - and try and explain why a bit more.
― Tom, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― scott plagenhoef, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― james e l, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
but still: classic. one of the few bands in these here modern times who never cease to put out something i enjoy. hopefully that streak will continue with the new album -- the live songs i've heard from it, or that are supposed to be from it, anyway, are great but they say that it's never good when it takes a band forever to complete an album and there are stories of the whole thing being scrapped and re-recorded...but they say a lot of things, don't they? besides, scott walker and marianne faithfull attached to the project? how can it go wrong! it's a 60s freak-out party!
― fred solinger, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Bill
― Bill, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― DG, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Pulp as a band I think are pretty mediocre to be honest. I wouldn’t care if he dumped them and went to work with someone new. I liked his work with All Seeing Eye musically more than anything Pulp have recorded. So Pulp dud, Jarvis potential classic but too early to call.
― Guy, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
The things that some people have been criticizing them for, like the ott factor, are part of what makes their music so good. They're not afraid to go over the top; something they have in common with great pop music. Indie bands tend to try for the "tastefully restrained" approach far too often.
And I don't think there's anything twee about Pulp -- there's a bitterness and desperation that's a subtext to too many of the songs to qualify for that. People tend to play up the lyrics when talking about Pulp, but I think the music is pretty excellent as well. Their sound was always a little too much in love with chart pop and disco to ever fall victim to the grey and plodding behemoth known as Britpop.
AND even if His N Hers, A Different Class and This Is Hardcore were not three of my favorite albums, I am such a pathetic and sad Scott Walker fan that I would immediately rate any band that let him produce their record. ;-)
― Nicole, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
His'n'Hers and Different Class alone are enough: classic. How they redeemed the mid-90s for me; the Pinefox's counter-argument is tempting but a classic misunderstanding of a band through discredit- by-association.
― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I'm sure the curse of Momus would have put Pulp somewhere between World of Twist and Denim. And Michael Jackson, his sails full of the wind of unchallenged messianic megalomania, would have made five brilliant new pop albums all produced by Cornelius.
― Momus, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― alex thomson, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― ernest, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Within two days stevie t mentions the heartstopping 'days in the trees' by Noman and now yous mention the wonderful WORLD OF tWIST, ILILM.
― Geordie Racer, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― EdwardO, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
"In conclusion/A meaning wasn't had/Reflecting on the situation/Of a problem/Again."
Not appearing on the "Pyramid Song" B-side anytime soon.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Omar, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
but i almost never play them anymore. somehow, its seems too reminiscent of 1995. it seems almost wrong to play them now, out of that context (speaking subjectively here). this is a shame really, because they are such a classic. i hardly play stereolab any more either.
sometimes bands seems very tied to a particular era, and its difficult to extricate them from that.
everything post-different class is slightly disappointing
― gareth, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
they were good too. regardless of barney sumner's 'we are weird' comments on jukebox jury
*OK not complete. The "She's A Rainbow" cover is best ignored and I've never, alas, heard "The Sausage".
― Tom, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Snub TV, circa 1990. World of Twist playing 'The Storm' and then being interviewed.
"We definitely see ourselves as a pop band, not rock" says the monkey boy leader. Much nodding of heads from the other band members.
I sit there and think "Yeah yeah, like you're so radical for saying that. God this indieboy pro-pop thing is starting to annoy me"
The funny thing is, looking back I'm not even sure why I thought this. Whose line did I think World of Twist were parroting? It wasn't like I was familiar with early 80s NME rhetoric. How did I get so opinionated so young? Maybe I just thought they'd nicked ideas I'd started to have about pop music and were cross that they'd made a hash of it.
Pulp: CLASSIC by the way, but I completely sympathise with pinefox's attempt to locate his problem with consensus outside the trappings of moronic snobbery. Don't understand why everyone is going on about 'Common People'. If ever there was a song that has been completely newtered through overexposure, that is it. I tend to skip it when I listen to 'Different Class' now.
What I find weird about 'This Is Hardcore' is that it contains perhaps their two finest achievements in the title track and 'The Fear', one pretty good track in 'Help the Aged', and then the rest is just treading water. Seriously, when I first put on the album and heard the opening track, I thought it was going to be the best record ever made. Then that godawful line about sharing the same initials as Jesus came on (is there anything more annoying than when he repeats it at the end of the song in case you didn't catch how clever it was the first time round?) and disillusion set in once more. *sigh*
― Nick, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
great to know I'm not the only one to still be into world of twist too - can I be a smartarse and say I've got the "blackpool tower suite" 12"?
― norman fay, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
That said, it's quite a while since I've played any of their albums.
― Robin Carmody, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― sundar subramanian, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
intro.
― gareth, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ally C, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― and i fantasize about english countrysides when listening to yes, too, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
(not that anyone I've ever met talks or, indeed, sings like that.)
― Robin Carmody, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
My god. I'm selling the rest of my CDs and just keeping the Pulp, any bidders?
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Larcole (Nicole), Friday, 8 August 2003 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 August 2003 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)
Is this a Pulp lyric? It's amazing whatever it is.
― Kris (aqueduct), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Larcole (Nicole), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 8 August 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 August 2003 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:05 (twenty years ago)
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:08 (twenty years ago)
I’ve been on a bit of an Edwyn Collins kick lately. Just heard Gorgeous George and if you squint your ears it sorta sounds like a lost Pulp album.
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 29 March 2025 13:16 (two months ago)
I was wrong, thank god
new Pulp album details pic.twitter.com/K3BoQzXbk1— morally grey (@DILFBAlT) April 7, 2025
― Murgatroid, Monday, 7 April 2025 19:48 (two months ago)
And we got first singlehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-27a1ugJX8U
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 April 2025 11:16 (one month ago)
Tracklisting:Spike IslandTinaGrown UpsSlow JamFarmers MarketMy SexGot To Have LoveBackground NoisePartial EclipseThe Hymn of the NorthA Sunset
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 April 2025 11:19 (one month ago)
Elastica cover?!
― piscesx, Thursday, 10 April 2025 11:24 (one month ago)
unlike the stereolab video you were all complaining about (which was boring but visually inoffensive) this video's a really hideous use of ai video generation lol
― ufo, Thursday, 10 April 2025 11:31 (one month ago)
I should stop watching music videos because I'm just getting disappointed by everyone.
― Cow_Art, Thursday, 10 April 2025 11:38 (one month ago)
song is just kinda lifeless, there was better stuff on that jarv is album a few years ago
― ufo, Thursday, 10 April 2025 11:44 (one month ago)
It's mocking AI, of course it's hideous.
― zoloft keeps liftin' me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 10 April 2025 11:45 (one month ago)
idk I like the song
them using AI for the video is an odd decision considering that statement from Jarvis that was put out a few days ago where he literally stated that no AI was used in the making of the album, but I guess the promo video is not considered part of the album
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 10 April 2025 11:51 (one month ago)
making something deliberately hideous with ai just to make fun of it is about the most boring thing possible
― ufo, Thursday, 10 April 2025 11:57 (one month ago)
Meantime we have a separate rarities album coming via Mojo:
THIS MONTH’S COVERMOUNT CD is Pulp: Forty Odd Years. Live, rare and unreleased tracks from the vast expanse of their career, 1982 to 2025, curated by Cocker and Co. Features killer versions of Common People, Babies, Sheffield: Sex City, His ’N’ Hers, The Trees and more!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 April 2025 12:25 (one month ago)
I think this song is pretty damn good! James Ford is killing the game these days.
― Davey D, Thursday, 10 April 2025 15:51 (one month ago)
yeah dunno how you could call this lifeless
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 10 April 2025 16:22 (one month ago)
I like the song, looking forward to the album.
Using AI to mock AI is still... using AI. Disappointing.
― better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 April 2025 16:24 (one month ago)
I'm not sure what else you could use to mock AI
― PaulTMA, Thursday, 10 April 2025 17:07 (one month ago)
I just meant more that they didn't have to go that route at all.
― better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 April 2025 17:14 (one month ago)
A(nother!) North American tour goes on presale tomorrow for anyone who didn’t hear already
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 22 April 2025 21:58 (one month ago)
Man that video is lazy even for one that uses AI. Song is not bad though
Feel like it might be funny to make a video mocking some of the AI problems - extra fingers, feet swapped - with practical effects. I dunno if the joke would come across though
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 13:26 (one month ago)
that would be a good bit although probably difficult to pull off effectively
― ufo, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 13:55 (one month ago)
Pulp pre-sale today, password RUN
dc tickets were $69.50 for general admission with $15.95 service fees
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 14:09 (one month ago)
there's a whole thing on tiktok where people try and recreate the vibe of AI without using AI and it can be very funny at times.
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 14:11 (one month ago)
Got a cheap GA lawn ticket for Toronto, saw them last year and I don’t want to pay a hundo to see them again but I do want to see them again so I think getting the cheapest ticket is a reasonable compromise
Last year I was at the front in an indoor venue and this year I’ll be way at the back in an outdoor-ish venue lol bleh hope I don’t regret not getting a better ticket
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 14:14 (one month ago)
NY (Queens) tickets were $100 + $23.15 in fees & taxes. Goddammit, why does everything here have to be more expensive? I won't complain - it's a hell of a lot easier for me to get to than Kings Theatre.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 14:17 (one month ago)
(Or to be accurate, $99.50 + $3.00 handling fee + $20.65 service fee)
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 14:21 (one month ago)
That was mr kinder's halloween costume!
― kinder, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 18:03 (one month ago)
Jarv, I know you read this thread. Hire mr kinder to do the next one
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 20:04 (one month ago)
New Pulp track will be released today
We're getting a new Pulp single today! pic.twitter.com/9r4PYtWYZJ— daily pulp (@pulptoday) May 22, 2025
― djmartian, Thursday, 22 May 2025 11:05 (two weeks ago)
awesome. i loved "spike island."
― treeship., Thursday, 22 May 2025 12:44 (two weeks ago)
I am enjoying “Spike Island” quite a bit.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 22 May 2025 15:05 (two weeks ago)
And here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_xnLmRz6XM
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:04 (two weeks ago)
uptempo and optimistic
― djmartian, Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:11 (two weeks ago)
this is fine but why is it so compressed? same problem as the last one
― ufo, Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:42 (two weeks ago)
James Ford
― Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Thursday, 22 May 2025 20:57 (two weeks ago)
there's plenty of stuff he's worked on that doesn't sound like this though idk
― ufo, Thursday, 22 May 2025 21:06 (two weeks ago)
“Without life you’re just/Jerking off/Inside someone else”🤔
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 23 May 2025 02:22 (two weeks ago)
Err, **love** not life
can't say I've ever done that. does he really say "say it, ya nonce" around the 3 min mark?
― kinder, Friday, 23 May 2025 13:21 (two weeks ago)
xpost Zombie sex fiends everywhere objecting.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 May 2025 15:07 (two weeks ago)
does he really say "say it, ya nonce" around the 3 min mark?
Think it's "ponce"
― Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 24 May 2025 07:00 (two weeks ago)
their old records are really compressed too, the Britpop sound
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Saturday, 24 May 2025 09:13 (two weeks ago)
Different Class and This Is Hardcore especially (original editions) are quite dynamic for the era. WLL is brickwalled
― PaulTMA, Saturday, 24 May 2025 11:10 (two weeks ago)
I disagree, at least on Different Class. The drums are all smack and no body, the vocals super sibilant. Dense mixes with a ton of bus compression. I like that sound, not a diss at all.
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Sunday, 25 May 2025 05:06 (one week ago)
Well the overall mastering is reasonably dynamic https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/209546
― PaulTMA, Sunday, 25 May 2025 14:33 (one week ago)
“Without life you’re just/Jerking off/Inside someone else”
🤔
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, May 23, 2025 2:22 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Just heard this on the radio and "jerking" (and most of "off") is censored.
― Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 25 May 2025 19:01 (one week ago)
I know Pulp have talked about Springsteen influences before but this sounds almost Southside Johnny to me, maybe it’s just the refrain though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6n21vZIOEQ
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 26 May 2025 19:13 (one week ago)
I think this album deserves its own thread, T minus 24 hours or so.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 4 June 2025 01:34 (three days ago)
I can’t believe I’m listening to a new Pulp album, “Grown Ups”!!!
― Murgatroid, Friday, 6 June 2025 03:15 (yesterday)
How dare you. (In that I still have forty minutes to go.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 June 2025 03:22 (yesterday)
However, as I agree with Bee OK there:
Pulp -- More
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 June 2025 03:23 (yesterday)