acid mothers vs boredoms

While I love AMT, I don't really think is close at all.

I love Acid Mothers but there's no way this is even a contest. I threw AMT a vote based on the fact I've played them more often in the past year or so. That's the only justification I have... Boredoms are simply too good.

big discog full of garbage v. moderately sized discog with some garbage

live its a more even playing field

C'mon. Not a fair fight.

I've seen both live – Boredoms twice with the three drum kits and the crazy hand lights, and AMT in their Cosmic Inferno guise - and they're the most enjoyable gigs I can remember from the last few years.

Actually, the best was the Japanese New Music Festival with AMT's Kawabata and Tatsuya Yohsida from Ruins; I didn't know what to expect from it at all, but it was easily the most fun and least pretentious gig I've been to.

4 years late more like:
TS to end all TS: Acid Mothers Temple vs Boredoms

2 weeks short of 5 years!

Boredoms because they don't charge $18 for a CDR

― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()()()()()()(()()()()(()()()()) (ex machina), Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:02 AM

lol

i have to say i think AMT are a severely overrated pile of shit only old hippies must like. "oh those inscrutable japanese" they fawn. fuckin listenb to hawkwind's space ritual - that's probably the best of this AWFUL sort of music.
― bob snoom, Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:00 AM Bookmark

can we maybe use this thread to talk about AMT's recent output? does anybody but me listen to stuff like "magical power from mars" (which is astounding btw), "recurring dream & apocalypse of darkness", "lord of the underground: vishnu and the magical elixir", "IAO chant from the cosmic inferno", "just another band from the cosmic inferno", "crystal rainbow pyramid", "glorify astrological martyrdom", "dark side of the black moon", "interstellar guru and zero", "journey into the cosmic inferno", etc etc

is it just me or does it seem like people stopped listening after "electric heavyland"?

I've listened to as much of that stuff as I can and there's a hell of a lot of goodness there -- mind you, live the band tends to still rely on "Pink Lady Lemonade" and/or "La Novia" a lot.

last time i saw you IRL was at an AMT show, you know that?

Hahah, that's right!

really enjoying "just another band from the cosmic inferno" and "magical power from mars"

not so sure about the new stoner metal / black metal influenced stuff

and as far as boredoms go i'm going to get all challops-y here and opine that super roots 7, 8, 9 and 10 have pretty much sucked, rebore vol 0 should have been called RESNORE, and seadrum / house of sun was 75% wack

and i don't get the OOIOO love at all

Now all the noise people will find you.

does anybody but me listen to stuff like "magical power from mars" (which is astounding btw), "recurring dream & apocalypse of darkness", "lord of the underground: vishnu and the magical elixir", "IAO chant from the cosmic inferno", "just another band from the cosmic inferno", "crystal rainbow pyramid", "glorify astrological martyrdom", "dark side of the black moon", "interstellar guru and zero", "journey into the cosmic inferno", etc etc

yes - at least in part - from mars is indeed doooooope but guru and zero is the raddest of these ive heard

"magical power from mars" (which is astounding btw), "recurring dream & apocalypse of darkness", "lord of the underground: vishnu and the magical elixir", "IAO chant from the cosmic inferno", "just another band from the cosmic inferno", "crystal rainbow pyramid", "glorify astrological martyrdom", "dark side of the black moon", "interstellar guru and zero", "journey into the cosmic inferno"

Sadly I think I own every single one of these releases. All good to excellent albums, to varying degrees. My favorites are probably IAO Chant and Recurring Dream, from that list.

It was around Magical Power from Mars that I kind of fell off the AMT wagon.
I like it, but was annoyed that they released three seperate eps and then compiled them all on one cd a year or so after the three different eps came out. I like Mainliner more than AMT. Oh, I think the last AMT album I bought was St Captain Freakout and the Magic Bamboo Request, which had one or two cool mellow jams on it, but was mostly boring rehash. I like LIVE IN JAPAN a lot, that was the last AMT thing that really blew me away. I'll have to check out the ones that you guys are citing here.

AMT are cool, if wildly inconsistent, but there's really no contest. Super Roots 10 sucks? What about the AMAZING Lindstrom remix? Sea Drum is lovely. Second drone track less so, but first tune is great. And they're an incredible live band. AMT do rock live, but having seen them twice I'm not sure I need to see them again, unless it's in a different formation.

I want to vote AMT because Kawabata when I saw him all by his lonesome at Terrastock>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all of the Boredoms when I saw them at 1st Ave a while back (and they were awesome!), but I don't know if that wouldn't be all too fair (plus, Eye was injured, I believe??).

Abstaining for the time being.

Kawabata when I saw him all by his lonesome at Terrastock

A set memorably described by Elvis Telecom as one that 'separated the living from the dead.'

Actually, the best was the Japanese New Music Festival with AMT's Kawabata and Tatsuya Yohsida from Ruins; I didn't know what to expect from it at all, but it was easily the most fun and least pretentious gig I've been to.

This was indeed great. Playful vibe, awesome playing, vegetable rituals, and the message 'Welcome to Japanese New Music Festival!' before every song.

After some years of deliberation, I've concluded that Yamantaka Eye is the Matthew Barney of noise music.

This being both a good and bad thing...

pls explain

It makes sense cuz Kawabata Makoto is probably the Barney the Purple Dinosaur of noise music.

who is barney rubble?

Mike Patton

Mike Patton is more like the Barney Fife of noise music.

zing...

please to restrict discussion to AMT vs boredoms

Magical Power from Mars is the last AMT thing I bought (after buying the first EP from the series, hmmph.) Just too much stuff. As vaguely affiliated side projects go, I like Floating Flower more than OOIOO definitely.

Since 2001 AMT has consistently turned out decent cosmic psych records at the rate of 3-4 albums a year, with some filler but an otherwise relatively strong output given the volume of music.

In the same timeframe, Boredoms have produced far less music (hard to say whether the music is better or worse than AMT- there's substantial stylistic differences), but they do have the killer Boadrum performances under their belt.

For me, at this point the spectacle of a Boredoms performance is far more enticing than the content- I never listen to them at home, but I'd pay good money to see them live.

I listen to AMT at home all the time, but I'd probably pay less to see them live.

the last album by amt i heard was in 2008 and i liked it a bunch:

new acid mothers temple album is friggin' heavy!

have no idea how many have come since then though.

it was definitely the "heaviest" amt album i have heard. and i've heard about ten. i sold all my CDs on ebay though. and i traded the one from last year in to the record store.

i have ALWAYS liked the idea of amt more than the reality of the music. love the album covers, love the titles, love the idea of a japanese guitar freakout hippie cult in the 21st century. but i just never listened to the CDs that much. go figure. and i listen to psychedelic rock ALL the time.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

I'm booking a solo tour for Kawabata on the west coast this November.

Send him to Texas while you're at it. ;-)

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no shit

i've seen AMT 4 times in the last 5 years and loved them every time, but i just don't really listen to their recorded stuff. i accumulate it and then let it sit. as a live experience i think they're great, but as a band they're not anywhere near the boredoms.