Eric POLLphy (Dolphy albums poll)

i haven't heard all of these, but i've heard a bunch. kinda can't live without the five spot stuff. or far cry. or out to lunch. but i love iron man and the live in europe stuff as well. i dunno, i kinda love it all! or all that i own anyway.

I don't feel bad going with Out To Lunch, as great as all the stuff Scott cited, especially since my favorite live stuff is with the Mingus bands.

i'm totally unqualified to vote in this poll but in the spirit of american democracy that didn't stop me from voting live in europe vol 1 cuz that "god bless the child" is so next level.

lol fuck i think i clicked vol 2 by mistake hahaha i am the elderly floridian of eric dolphy pollz

so many

is out there the one with jaki byard and the first version of 'god bless the child'? i like that one. but i think that and out to lunch are the only ones i've heard more than once. so.

Out to lunch might be one of those first 10 cds i'd buy again

crazy how many of these i haven't heard! think i've gotta go with The Great Concert (which is both five spot volumes, right?) -- so much great stuff there. also have to say that Last Date might not be the best (mainly cuz his backing band loses it a few times), but there are a few INCREDIBLE moments. Dolphy on flute! Holy shit.

Cool poll! I went through a Dolphy phase about ten years ago so I have a few of these kicking around that I haven't listened to in a while.

If I remember correctly Out to Lunch is the really famous one that everyone agrees is gold standard Dolphy but Out There is the slightly weirder one that is also easy to find, and that I gradually ended up liking more than Out to Lunch. I think I've got Magic or possibly the self-titled one as well but these CDs are thousands of miles away.

I'm going to go with Fire Waltz if only for the title track, with its beautiful clarinet stylin's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKDAbp9m5yw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgzFnXszRzM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibURCPx4Iug

Out to lunch might be one of those first 10 cds i'd buy again

― sonderangerbot

Completely. Out to lunch has been a staple on my mp3 player for as long as I can remember. Some of my favourite Dolphy moments are as a sideman though - eg Oliver Nelson's 'Blues & the Abstract Truth' and some of the Coltrane albums I guess.

two (non-leader) albums i need on vinyl that i don't have:

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7_ip0k0slCk/Sa511Yjj8BI/AAAAAAAAB2c/zwKbr9IstCk/s400/booklet+front.jpg

otm about Oliver Nelson's 'Blues & the Abstract Truth' -- that's probably my favorite example of Dolphy in a more conventional setting. Though Straight Ahead (arr. by Nelson, I think) is a good one too.

Dolphy's flute solo on 'Stolen Moments' = spine tingling stuff.

out to lunch is magic

love this alb almost as much as OUT TO LUNCH

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YSqLW7GIhG4/RyTkLUiWCjI/AAAAAAAABJg/5vQxDdr2YAg/s400/PointOfDeparture.jpg

save it for the andrew hill poll

actually, duz anyone know any records where hill plays as a sideman? wikipedia only lists two:

With Bobby Hutcherson
Dialogue (1965)
With Greg Osby
The Invisible Hand (Blue Note, 2000)

out to lunch is magic

Also useful to prop on your desk in the office when you go out to lunch

pulling the lever for Out To Lunch but Outward Bound is nice (though not all that "out" actually)

Hmm looks like I also have Last Date. Might have been this one I liked more than Out to Lunch.

on out to lunch u hear them exploring the possibilities of the new thing before dogma set in - it has an excited cheerful vibe - the joy of creativity abounds - the songs themselves even start out formal then explode into space

Love Bobby Hutcherson's story about working w/ Dolphy:
I’m rehearsing with Eric at his loft — myself, Tony Williams, Richard Davis and a trumpet player named Eddie Armour. We were rehearsing for about an hour and a half. It was a cold winter day. All of a sudden, right in the middle of the tune, the trumpet player, Eddie, starts cussing and packing up his horn. We get to the end of the tune and Eddie says to Eric, “You’re nasty.” And Eric was real sweet, just like Trane was — you know, a real sweet cat. Eric said, “What?” Eddie says, “I don’t like you, I don’t like your music, and I’m not going to play this gig. I’m out of here. F you. F this band. That’s it. How do you like that?”

We’re all standing there thinking, “My God, how can this cat say this?” And he continues to put his horn away, clip the fasteners on his trumpet case. He grabs his coat, pulls his hat down and goes stomping to the door. He gets to the door — I mean, just yanks it open. The door hits the wall. Bam! He’s just about to go out the door.

Eric had just been sitting there with his head down. We’re all thinking, “Eric must feel horrible. What’s he going to do?” All of a sudden, Eric says, “Hey, Eddie.” Eddie turns around and says [in growling voice] “What?” Eric, with the most conviction and love, says, “If I can ever do anything you need, please don’t hesitate to call me. I’ll be there for you anytime.”

Whoa! And Eric was serious. With that, this cat really got upset — he slammed the door and stormed out. We just stood there all quiet. It was like he Sunday punched him with love. The lesson was, “Love conquers all,” you know? It’s like the devil couldn’t take that love, and this is what Eric was showing him. He went out that door with so much hate, but with a message that Eric still cared about him. This was one of the biggest lessons Eric showed me — that if you can forgive somebody right when they do the most horrible thing they can to you, you just immediately take the weight of what they did off your back and just make it this beautiful experience, so that you can go on and do the things you want to do during the day and not waste time with negative feelings and negative thoughts.

Well, we sat there quiet for two or three minutes — didn’t say anything. Then we went on with rehearsal and we never played so hard in our lives. We were just overcome. Then Eric called Freddie Hubbard, and that’s when we did Out to Lunch.

wow <3

Oh man.

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my iron man vote counted!

Didn't bother to vote, knowing OTL would take it, but yeah that's a nice anecdote

I voted for OTL (boringly enough, I know), but that anecdote totally made my day.

yeah that whole feature in Stop Smiling from last year about Dolphy was amazing. Seems like he was a beloved guy, to say the least. Is there a bio for him?

Vladimir Simosko & Barry Tepperman: Eric Dolphy: A Musical Biography and Discography, Da Capo Press, New York, 1979

http://www.amazon.com/Eric-Dolphy-Musical-Biography-Discography/dp/0306805243

My recollection was a rather slim, somewhat informative bio from a pair of devoted fans. It wasn't particularly compelling, but worth at least a trip to the library (which is where I found it). Dolphy is definitely ready for a more substantial revisit in print.

thanks, i'll see if i can track that down. but yeah, would probably be a good idea for someone to do an in-depth bio -- I imagine a lot of the people who knew him/played with him are passing on now.

Some of my favourite Dolphy moments are as a sideman though - eg Oliver Nelson's 'Blues & the Abstract Truth'...

otm about Oliver Nelson's 'Blues & the Abstract Truth' -- that's probably my favorite example of Dolphy in a more conventional setting.

No, no, no. I cannot stand that snooze-fest. One of the most inexplicably over-recommended jazz albums ever.

This, on the other hand, I think is some of Dolphy's best work:

http://www.jazz.com/assets/2009/2/24/albumcoverGeorgeRussell-EzzThetics.jpg

haven't heard that one ... but what's not to like about "Abstract Truth"? Not a groundbreaking record or anything, but totally enjoyable. And it has Bill Evans, Freddie Hubbard and Eric Dolphy all near the peak of their powers on it ...

Man, this Eric Dolphy-Ron Carter album from 1960 is good stuff!

The Quest, which probably should be credited to band leader/composer Mal Waldron is one I have been liking recently, not a classic by any means but a shit hot band. It's also got Booker Ervin and Ron Carter on Cello and it is quite unique.

Outward Bound and Out There robbed here. Those records are terrific!

Xelab, there's also this Ron Carter alb recorded a few days before The Quest, no Booker Ervin sadly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where%3F_(album)

Ah yes it is almost the same band, when I was binging on Dolphy I must have missed it cos it's a Ron Carter joint. It is another one where some record company has posthumously made Dolphy the band leader. Not that that really matters if it is some more fine music.

The cello tracks are exquisite.

That was a good recommend Ward, absolutely love this Ron Carter album now.