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I know most of you discard The Stone Roses as Dadrock, but what about The 'Mondays? The 'Carpets? And others, too neon to mention?

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Paris Angels' "Perfume" still a classic imo

electric sound of jim, Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

MC Hammer

nathalie, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i don't think the stone roses were dadrock, but they haven't aged that well, but i think a lot of that is down to overexposure, and the annoying cult that sprang up after their demise, the recontextualisation of them is interesting (americans seem to see them as janglerock, brits as dour proto-britrock - could be wrong there i admit)

this thread will probably turn into another stone roses thread with entrenched partisanship and possible eventual trolling, so i'll get on to the other baggy bands...

happy mondays were, for me, the best band this country has ever produced (and deserve better than to be just seen as 'another' mcr band - more famous for antics than music etc - plenty of great stuff pre-88, now ignored - even bummed isn't really that well known an album)

flowered up were great too, didn't scale the heights the happy mondays did but did much better than anyone else (ie - they actually attempted - most british bands don't have the nous or invention)

paris angels. perfume was a great song, but other than that...

time hasn't been that kind to inspiral carpets

also rans that were ok: bridewell taxis, asia fields, northside were nowhere near as bad as people make out

charlatans were drab, cannot understand how this band made it big

wendys, mock turtles, milltown brothers. oh dear oh dear oh dear...

gareth, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

my jealous god - everything about you. just remembered that, that was good! i think it was anyway, haven't listened to that in ages!!!

gareth, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is the point where I'm supposed to bang on about how great the New FADs were?

RickyT, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Time hasn't been kind to Inspiral Carpets? Rubbish! I Want You is still amazing, so invigorating every time I hear it (plus which it has Mark E. Smith on it being ace), Saturn 5 has one of the most bellowable choruses ever - come to think of it, so does This Is How It Feels, and Monkey On My Back... He may have fallen off a bit lately, but Tom Hingley could really write a bloody good chorus.I should confess that I haven't heard too much of the Carpets' material (only the Life album and one of the Saturn 5 EP's), but what I have heard I've loved. You don't see that kind of thing nowadays - maybe if The Coral did a tune with Sue Tompkins from Life Without Buildings... or not.

Mr Swygart, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(that 'Rubbish!' wasn't meant to sound quite that angry, by the way.)

Mr Swygart, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

**Is the point where I'm supposed to bang on about how great the New FADs were?**

Yes! Or I can.

Dr. C, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Please DO, RickyT! The New FAD's RULE.

Crispijn, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I love World of Twist, who seem to get lumped in with that scene, although I don't really think they were part of it. Everyone seemed to have a go at a baggy number back the...even the Wedding Present with Kennedy...

Jez, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It would have to be the collected works of theaudience, for they had on vocals the youthful Sophie Ellix-Bextor - the greatest singer who has ever lived or will ever live.

Sophie #1 Phan, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am the only person on ILM who likes The Farm, I bet. I also prefer original Blur to current Blur (although I do think "Music Is My Radar" is the second-best song they've put out after "There's No Other Way").

Dan Perry, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Saw Tom Hingley (ex-Inspirals vocalist)with the Lovers (feat.Steve & Paul Hanley, ex-Fall) last year in a small bar in Manchester playing a set of mainly Inspirals songs and they were brilliant. However the crowd was sadly very ltd in numbers and Tom continually (& unsuccessfully) was trying to get them to move closer to the stage from the bar. They aren't a patch however on the current line-up of The Fall, who are sounding better than they have in ages (live that is).

tacit, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...
hey the bridewall taxis don't sound so bad

corey c (shock of daylight), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 17:56 (twenty years ago)

i'm curious about this asia fields though?

corey c (shock of daylight), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 17:57 (twenty years ago)

"Candy Flip - Madstock...The Further Adventures of Fish Rides a Bicycle"

that sounds awful

corey c (shock of daylight), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 18:09 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

Because Mark E put this into my head on twitter, and now it has to be in ~your~ heads, too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8uIEiMG9vU

(serves me right for bringing up the "it's mental mental mental" Candy Flip song)

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:03 (fourteen years ago)

It's mental mental mental

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT90M42xR0g

Sorry, I've got to get this out of my system. A very much younger friend posted a video (I think it was Friendly Fires?) which was a modern indie band doing a video of all clips of drugged up ravers doing freaky dancing '89-'93 and she was echoing the whole "oh, there was so much good music back then" to which I just said "um, that was the time period of *my* youth, and I can assure you there was plenty of TERRIBLE music back then"

Or perhaps I've just been reading the Reynolds thread too much.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:15 (fourteen years ago)

if? : one of sean mcluskys first adventures into the world of pop.

a few years back i tried to get through to him to ask questions about this (best) forgotten band, but was warned off.

mark e, Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:17 (fourteen years ago)

I've got a soft spot for the zero-cred end of the baggy spectrum. eg. I saw the Sandkings a number of times and the gigs were always tons of fun. Also, these guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsmxX_oHnMI

everything, Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:43 (fourteen years ago)

http://991.com/NewGallery/The-Apples-Beautiful-People-503976.jpg

been trying to find a youtube rip of beautiful people by the apples, but no luck yet.
would fit this 'zero-cred end of baggy' groove perfectly.
just checked credits : 'engineered by james reynolds'
i wonder if the james reynolds.

mark e, Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:49 (fourteen years ago)

That Airhead video - at first I was all "ugh, what a terrible, terrible vid..." but then... SEA ARCHES.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:50 (fourteen years ago)

I can't stop listening to that Candy Flip "mental mental mental" track - should really find a "so bad it's good cheesy rave remixes of terrible 90s cusp bands" thread.

(Also, friend who inspired the revive just got back to me and she actually kinda likes the Candy Flip track oh my stars, kids today, etc.)

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:56 (fourteen years ago)

sigh.

whatever happened to my cd single of this :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCOpBP6eNnc

mark e, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:06 (fourteen years ago)

Oh man that lumbering bass sound is like candy to my ears.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:09 (fourteen years ago)

Actually, I think it was re-hearing Feel Every Beat by Electronic that put my ears craving that lumbering bass / baggy beat thing again.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:14 (fourteen years ago)

Saturday's Angels is a great track. I like a few tracks by If? They're a bitch to google for, unfortunately.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 28 July 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

indeed they are. have tracked down all the cd singles with leftfield remixes from the archive, but the album so far is escaping my diggin'

mark e, Thursday, 28 July 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

slsk

Black Arkestra, Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:41 (fourteen years ago)

I don't *have* SLSK or anything like that and I can't even find it anywhere, but if anyone can find an MP3 of that Candy Flip - Love is Life O Zone Friendly remix, oh man, I am in love with it so hard and I am going to wear the YouTube out.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 29 July 2011 09:14 (fourteen years ago)

OMG thank you so much. I love this track so stupidly much.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Monday, 1 August 2011 09:51 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62pRJnCpcVw

solfege made me schizophrenic (MaresNest), Monday, 1 August 2011 10:12 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf6-5-9efM8

solfege made me schizophrenic (MaresNest), Monday, 1 August 2011 10:13 (fourteen years ago)

Shuffling breakbeat and wah-wah = a powerfully baggy vibe off this track from the Ulrich Schnauss/Jonas Munk collab. Can't see a full-on baggy revival having the legs to match the new shoegaze scene though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLsi1vAuCkw

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 10:07 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vopy42X-gkQ

^ dunno if it's just me but I always thought that this song was proto-baggy

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 10:18 (fourteen years ago)


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