"The hidden gems that have pop stars hooked" (aka Take That's 'Patience' = "greatest comeback ever" says Nicky Wire etc)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/aug/17/pop-hidden-gems-take-that

Don't know if this has been linked to anywhere. "Pop stars" talking about their supposedly unlikely favourite songs, the standout part of it being Nicky Wire going nuts:

"If Neil Young had written it (Patience by Take That), people would be calling it a masterpiece. I've always liked Take That, too. They looked so brilliant back in the day and did everything right, but this is something else. It's got such a dark lyric: "My heart is numb, has no feeling/ So while I'm healing/ Just try and have a little patience". There's also a maturity about it that suits the boys all grown-up. Gary Barlow is a genius; I won't have anyone argue against him. When Alex Turner slagged off Take That at the 2006 Q awards for getting an award, I nearly lost it. James [Dean Bradfield from the Manics] was grabbing me by the arm, saying: "Don't lose it, Nicky.""

Um, yeah it's a good song. For that reason.

It depends on what Alex Turner was slagging them off for.

still sounds like coldplay to me

I cannot over-state my love for Take That's "Patience". In this instance, Wire brings the truth. (Apart from the "Gary Barlow is a genius" bit, obviously.)

if neil young had written it it would fall into the corpus of approximately 300 ok-but-not-spectacular neil young songs neil young has written, it is really only noticable in that it is a take that song

also it would reach the title by going quaveringly upwards

and would probably not feature a Cadd9

Nicky OTM as per yoozh.

I guess Patience is as boring as anything off This Is My Truth... so, y'know.

George Michael has claimed that Closer by Joy Division is his favorite album ever.
Kate Bush supposedly cried when she heard that Killing JOke broke up circa Revelations.
John Lydon is a massive fan of Alice Coooper.

I don't know, there's something Nick Hornby-esque about Wire's stance here. All like "yeah, sure, it may not be 'trendy' or whatever, but it's perfect pop, and you know what? There's nothing wrong with that!". Gee whiz.

I had to look up who James Morrison was (still none the wiser, tbh), but the fact that to him Nirvana was mum's housework music when he was a child makes me think fuck I'm old lol.

He may be in the right, but an out-of-control Nicky Wire would still be hilarious.

Um-yeah. Just imagining Nicky Wire turning a Jarvis Cocker to Alex Turner's Michael Jackson 's kinda sorta amusing. (Even tho I gotta notta vaguest clue who that Alex Turner person mightta be)

from la roux's bit:

Men write about women in a far more interesting way, and I try and take things from that. Women always cuss men in song; men write in a way that's more fragile, urgent and desperate.

has she, um, ever heard anything by a female songwriter?

The Lex and I have already taken that particular tidbit to pieces on the La Roux thread.

I somehow missed that bit about Nicky Wire. man, Nicky Wire going apeshit on Alex Turner over a Take That dis would be like something out of my wildest dreams.