What bands did you HATE but now LOVE?

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I guess that is a more difficult question than the other way round. I used to dislike Radiohead and I like them now (at least Amnesiac was excellent). In the beginning I hated Neil Young because of his voice then I loved him and now I am a little indifferent to his music.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hate. Love. Both are the same emotion. Hate is just love wrapped up in guilt.

Adorno, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i disliked tom waits and tindersticks, but eventually came round to them, although i've kind of veered away from tindersticks again (i initially disliked tom waits because of the voice, and tindersticks because i hadn't actually heard them). i also had problems with piano magic, suede, autechre, boards of canada and happy mondays when i first heard them, but it was not hate, or even dislike, more just 'not getting it' - i did in the end though

more recently i've found myself liking parts of the last groove armada album, which really quite surprised me

gareth, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

For many years my brother played me the worst bits of "Sandanista" at top volume, which meant that I hated it for two reasons :- 1) My brother liked it, therefore it was crap 2) It was the worst bits of the record, therefore it was crap.

Now, he's far away and I've had time to play it to myself properly and realise that it's actually quite a good record. Not one that I love as such, it's still got crap moments, but one that I was deliberately put off by hearing it in the wrong context. There's other examples of the same kind of thing - my brother's taste being awful most of the time but sometimes he picked a goodie and I only hated it because he liked it so much. I doubt if it worked the other way though (except that he nicked my copies of "Forever changes" and "Wilder" when he went to college after slagging them off for years).

Rob M, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i used to dis generation terrorists left right and centre - i still hate the manics but hey thats a good record

i used to hate metal with a passion but i love acdc now

i used to hate jay-z - now i kinda dig him (same is true of puff daddy, p diddy, puffy - whatever)

born clippy, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Er, AC/DC are Hard Rock, or Pub Rock or something. I'm not sure you could go so far as to call them Metal.

OCP, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh my god you are an arse

born clippy, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hated Suede when they first came out, now it's love.

Sean, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I used to hate The Stone Roses when I was 10, because my brother liked them. Since I turned 16 they've been pretty constantly my favourite band.

Nick Southall, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Er, AC/DC are Hard Rock, or Pub Rock or something. I'm not sure you could go so far as to call them Metal.
Metal is a form of Hard Rock. But this is just genre-hairsplitting. Thats why genres suck. We should file everything in the record store under "Sounds" and leave it at that.

Customer #1: "Where can I find an AC/DC record?"
Store Clerk: "Ummm...try under 'Sounds' "
Customer #2: "Excuse me, wheres your Polka section?"
Store Clerk: "All polka records are filed under 'Sounds' "
Customer #3: "Yo, whassup? I'm lookin' for..."
Store Clerk: " 'Sounds!' "

Lord Custos III, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

For Lord Custos: Genres have their uses. I sure as hell don't want to waste my time in a section at the music store if I don't want anything from there (such as if I had come in search for some Neutral Milk Hotel, I luckily only have to check out the Pop/Rock or "Alternative" section rather than the Rap or Country section). Its when the bands limit themselves to genres or place themselves within a genre that things get ugly.

Its not that genres suck, its when people get so wrapped up in genres that things begin to look shitty. I personally hate these trendsters that are adamantly anti-genre, or those that cant see anything BUT genres. Both are disgusting. But then again, I am disgusted by 99.9997 per cent of humanity.

As for the original question: Monte Cazazza. I thought his music was shit at first, and that goes double for his singing. But I realized, eventually, that the beauty was in his complete lack of self-awareness and the human-ness of his flawed music.

Philip Gomez, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's all an evolutionary thing - AC/DC is obviously a loud rock'n roll band, but somehow does fit in Metal's history. Not for musical reasons, but in terms of energy/image/attitude it fits in with late 70s proto-heavy metal (Judas Priest/Angel Witch) and the raw, punk-ish rock'n roll of Motorhead. But indeed, nothing like modern metal after what Iron Maiden, Slayer and Bathory did to it...

So it's more or less a question of where to draw the line. If you look at it on a compositional/musical level, AC/DC are clearly on the blues based hard rock/rock'n roll side of things. If you look at it on an aesthetic level, and think that having long hair and playing your guitars on 10 (or 11) is enough to be called a metal band, then AC/DC is a metal band.

Siegbran Hetteson, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Seals & Croft and Kenny Rogers. Actually I liked them when I was a winsome lad, wanted to impale them when I was a hostile punker, and now I like them again. Especially Kenny Rogers, I just bought a First Edition cassette at a Kansas truckstop for $1.97, and I love it... sounds like The Band at times.

Andy, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

best and most representative for me is Yazoo.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Almost all prog, surprisingly. Not Genesis or KC, but Floyd, Gong, Can, Faust, and almost everything else.

Anna Rose, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

With the rich and fruity 'Sound-Dust' I'm beginning to think that Stereolab might be onto something. I had similar thoughts around 1992, but it's a pity we had to endure everything between times.

(Ducks to avoid left hook from J. Worrell)

I agree with Alex 'bout Radiohead - Kid A and Amnesiac rescued things.

Dr. C, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

david bowie. was into him as a teenager, then for years was all like, oh he singlehandedly ruined rock'n'roll, now like him again ( not least for "singlehandedly ruining rock'n'roll", whatever i even meant by that). similar trajectory although i didnt hate him as much : brian eno. hated them as a teenager then liked them & now am sorta indifferent to again : led zeppelin.

unknown or illegal user, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Beach Boys. As represented by Mike Love and John Stamos, I thought they were cheese merchants of the lowest order. Probably a correct assumption, then there is the Pet Sounds box set that makes me cry (in a good way) it is so good. Sail on, Sailor is pretty awesome, as well.

Brent, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As represented by Mike Love and John Stamos

Hell in a handbasket.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

...rather than the Rap or Country section

It would make me very happy to come across a record shop that had a 'Rap or Country' section. It could be next to the 'Techno or Swing' section and the 'Opera or Jungle' section.

Martin Skidmore, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Beach Boys!

I Love Brian Wilson, the genius behind the Beach Boys!

Pet Sounds....oh...Every single track of this album is music at its best!

George Martin (Beatles producer): "If there is one person that I have to select as a living genius of pop music, I would choose Brian Wilson. Without Pet Sounds, Sgt. Pepper wouldn't have happened... Pepper was an attempt to equal Pet Sounds"

Sailor, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

six years pass...

Queens of the Stone Age.

I really hated them when I was 13...I don't know why, but now I'm all obsessive over them!!! Even teaching myself how to play some of their songs on guitar.

Aja, Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:16 (seventeen years ago)

I used to hate Pink Floyd and the Doors, but I realized after smoking pot that I liked Pink Floyd, and I realized that without the associative nastiness of the gross, druggy Morrison worshipers in my high school, the Doors are pretty good!

res, Thursday, 24 July 2008 18:35 (seventeen years ago)

i still hate all the bands i used to hate.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:19 (seventeen years ago)

vinnie paz needs a hug

uh oh I'm having a fantasy, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:37 (seventeen years ago)

oh cool this is out http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=23186

uh oh I'm having a fantasy, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:41 (seventeen years ago)

No Age

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 24 July 2008 22:16 (seventeen years ago)

I loved Andrew WK, then saw him right before I Get Wet and hated him, and then I learned to love him again. I Get Wet is really an amazing record, I was so dumb!

Steve Shasta, Thursday, 24 July 2008 22:18 (seventeen years ago)

I was gonna post examples but there were just too many. I think this is one of the true joys of music fandom - that moment where you go "ah! *now* i get it" and you can see a whole new vista of enjoyment open up in front of you. Or something.

ecuador_with_a_c, Friday, 25 July 2008 01:12 (seventeen years ago)

I was a rather outspoken Pink Floyd hater back in the 80s.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 25 July 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)

Kinda surprised you changed your opinion on ANYTHING, Geir! But I guess the '80s were a long time ago.

I can name at least a dozen perfomers that have gone through the hate-to-love cycle - a couple of 'em as a result of persuasive ILM peer pressure. (Steely Dan most notably.) So I'll single out The Residents, who I liked then hated then learned to love again, tho I'm pretty indifferent to whatever they've done after about '84 or so. And there's Creedence Clearwater Revival, who I've loved nearly all my life, except for a year or two in the mid-80s when I had to hate 'em because I was a rebellious teen and they were my dad's eternal favourite.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 25 July 2008 01:58 (seventeen years ago)

deerhunter

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 July 2008 02:20 (seventeen years ago)

The Smiths, which I first heard on shitty car speakers with no bass, just the first (cassette) half, every day for half a year. It sounded like "Rusholme Ruffians", over and over and over. Once I figured out that most Smiths songs didn't sound like "Rusholme Ruffians", love wasn't far off.

Euler, Friday, 25 July 2008 02:23 (seventeen years ago)

j0rdan otm, Deerhunter for me too.

stephen, Saturday, 26 July 2008 02:37 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, co-sign on the Deerhunter. I don't know about "hate" per se, but annoyance about hype, etc. Now, easily my favorite band of the last few years.

Bill in Chicago, Saturday, 26 July 2008 02:53 (seventeen years ago)

the hype and the image both

stephen, Saturday, 26 July 2008 03:16 (seventeen years ago)

fleetwood mac. this was before i had listened to tusk though. i still don't like rumours.

oscar, Saturday, 26 July 2008 03:29 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

Actively hated them for years but was then sort of indifferent. However at this point I can no longer deny it. I like Led Zeppelin. I like them a lot.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:52 (fourteen years ago)

Zeppelin was my dismissed-because-of-all-the-douchebags-in-high-school-who-loved-them band. I was wrong.

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 03:09 (fourteen years ago)

Bravo. If you get "How the West Was Won" and the DVD, you'll be shittin' in high cotton!

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 03:12 (fourteen years ago)

Grateful Dead. This is as major a sea change as anything I've ever experienced. I still can't stand anything after, say, 1973, but wow, there was some energy in 1969-1972 that I didn't think they ever had in them.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 03:30 (fourteen years ago)

couldn't stand animal collective years back, wouldn't say i love them but i do enjoy them.

The Chicago Choad (thebingo), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:14 (fourteen years ago)

most eighties pop music. bruce springsteen.

Michael B, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 14:10 (fourteen years ago)

haha, my comment above. i now officially like half of rumours. maybe in two more years i will like the rest.

oscar, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 14:12 (fourteen years ago)

I really came around on the Tragically Hip - a rite of Canadian adulthood maybe?

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 14:20 (fourteen years ago)

Springsteen is probably my answer too. I was 8 when Born in the U.S.A. was ubiquitous and I got sick of hearing those same songs over and over again. Then came his crappy later 80s and early 90s stuff, I just couldn't reconcile what I was hearing with all the praise heaped on him. It actually wasn't until very recently that I went back and discovered his 70s work on my own, which I've now come to absolutely love.

Dylan sort of similar. When I was about 13-15 and really getting into classic rock with my friends, I, for some reason, drew a thick line at Dylan and refused to like him. I was very vocal about my hatred of him. But then I saw Dazed and Confused, specifically the scene with Matthew McConaughey walking into the Emporium and it was like a circuit connected in my brain and I became sort of obsessed with "Hurricane". My mom bought me both of the movie's soundtracks for Christmas, but I was disappointed that it wasn't on either of them. Finally, about eight months later, I came across a used copy of Desire and, as they say, that was that. Have loved Dylan ever since.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 14:21 (fourteen years ago)


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