Material Issue vs. The Smiths

hahahahaha

fucking fantastic

u my boo que

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IpwA6Y6to8

btw as a total viva hate stan my vote was easy

again, similar to Matt Johnson's idiocy in "The Violence of Truth", Morrissey poisonous little screed in "Bengali in Platforms" almost makes me believe the rumor that "Suedehead" is a racist skin song

also the singer for Material Issue does an admirable job considering the strength of the clamp that must have been crushing his nuts when he recorded his vocals

oh man i hate material issue ack

i think i owned the material issue cd for like 2.3 seconds before i sold it back

the douchebag spring festival booker at my first college took a pass on booking ween so he could pay material issue 3 times as much not to play because the lead singer broke his arm.

I know what you mean but I am sitting here giggling at yr masochist festival booker

the douchebag spring festival booker at my first college took a pass on booking ween so he could pay material issue 3 times as much not to play because the lead singer broke his arm.

do you know where dbag spring festival booker works now? I want in on this kinda deal

oh man we should do a thread on spring festivals

we actually payed material issue not to play two years in a row!

maybe it was worth it

"no seriously, if you break my arm I will give you three times the regular asking fee"

There are probably only 5-10 Smiths songs I like better than "Valerie Loves Me."

cant hate on him too much tho because he also payed a bunch of money for jesus lizard to play in the basement of one of the dorms for a bunch of terrified randoms, me, and the 7 other people who had any idea who they were

xpost i think you spelled albums rong

"no seriously, if you break my arm I will give you three times the regular asking fee"

wait wait did I have this wrong

I get paid and I get to break a dude's arm and I don't actually have to put in a night's work? fuckin sign me up for this shit pronto

woah jesus lizard in the basement! did they play This Charming Man?

Mutilations By Your Favourite Singer-Songwriters Volume One

I have to consider adding "savage beatdown" to list of shit you can get at my merch table

best show we ever had was my freshman year, a double-bill of...

Figures on a Beach/De La Soul

next week, Ronan Keating with the Lead Piping in the Conservatory

2 years after I graduated they brought in The Pharcyde; I didn't go but J did and she got an amazing contact high from standing in front of some dudes with very strong weed

we got Coolio as I recall

"i went to see the m0unt41n g04t5 and all i got was a savage beatdown. and this t-shirt."

haha I was on the committee that booked our shows. We brought in a pre-"Breakfast at Tiffany's" Deep Blue Something! And we had to score coke for the Village People (that show was fucking awesome despite being in the mid 90s).

my senior year we had... G-Love & Special Sauce, who got outplayed by an ad-hoc funk band thrown together by some singing friends of mine (one of whom now plays in the pit for "Don't Forget The Lyrics" and played Obama's big inaugural ball, lol)

hahahahaha so i just looked up other spring concert lineups from my alma mater and the following shows that the tradition of bad booking was carried on through the ages:

2000

* Wilco
* Sugarhill Gang
* 12 Rods
* Adaawe
* Gruvis Malt
* DJ Compulsion

It should be noted that the Sugarhill Gang demanded its payment in cash, which they received by hand that morning. It should also be noted that despite this amount, Sugarhill Gang was dubious at best. Of the origninal trio, only Wonder Mike remained, with a young Master Gee and a very bizarre Big Bank Hank who wore carpenter-style sweat pants.

the material issue years are conspicuously absent from the history of spring concert

I just have to point out that I really love International Pop Overthrow -- so much great and memorable songwriting on there. I can never resist comparing it with the Exploding Hearts album, which is pretty similar in feeling and style.

Thank you, nabisco, for convincing me to never hear Exploding Hearts.

only a little over two years to go before we resolve this burning issue once and for all

gives people time to think it over imho

there is much to discuss here; two years might be pushing it

gotta give folks time to recover from the Pitchfork decade in music thread

we need to start discussing clamps at some point

also the singer for Material Issue does an admirable job considering the strength of the clamp that must have been crushing his nuts when he recorded his vocals

I would not have singled out Exploding Hearts as something particularly up-Dan's-alley but still, :(

http://www.maximumvelocity.com/clamps.jpg

these are very good clamps - but the handle grips are a bit large

how do they affect vocal performances

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/parts/tweekerparts/clamps-tbolt.jpg

these are quite attractive and could be turned into fashionable jewelry

http://i14.ebayimg.com/07/u/000/77/63/6c19_7.JPG?set_id=81

"VALERIE LOVES ME!"

xp - for vocal performance one could try a pair of these:

http://arrowboltandscrew.com/images/clamps.jpg

dan, how do clamps affect your vocal performances?

I do not perform with clamps. I would presume that the intense pressure they would place on your nuts (and possibly also the base of your shaft, depending on placement) would distract you from proper breath support, causing you to make a keening, strangulated sound that would be difficult to sustain.

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11900785/Circumcision_Gomco_Clamps.jpg

this one is apparently used in circumcision

would distract you from proper breath support, causing you to make a keening, strangulated sound that would be difficult to sustain.

so that's how Mike Patton does it!

ditto dude from 3EB

"and the man said..."

LOLOLOL

That's exactly the kind of thing that creates the whole "small-town band you see every other week" impression -- that they have one of those songs where every verse is a different story situation ending with, you know, "and the man said ... (CHORUS) I ain't looking for trouble," etc.

http://www.rhapsody.com/material-issue/the-international-pop-overthrow/trouble/lyrics.html

why am I wasting one of my free Rhapsody plays on this song

i guess trouble find you, Dan

FOUND YOU

(NB I think it's "I ain't lookin for trouble" / and the man said "trouble has come lookin for YOU")

haha okay Dan so I have convinced you NOT to listen to the band I think is really good but HAVE gotten you to listen to the lousiest song on an old Material Issue record, I see

http://www.bikecare.co.uk/trail_gator/u-clamp_2007.jpg

the U clamp

in a way

trouble

has found

all of us. . .

You know the most irritating thing about this song is:

Trouble
'S come lookin'

WTF WHY DOES "'s" GET ITS OWN SYLLABLE

haha okay Dan so I have convinced you NOT to listen to the band I think is really good but HAVE gotten you to listen to the lousiest song on an old Material Issue record, I see

with great power comes great responsibility

seriously wondering if some earnest lurker has suggest banned me for off-topic img posts in this thread

this thread should be an open, welcoming thread--not the kind of thread that slowly squeezes you, tighter, tighter, until you no longer can even think about posting anymore

I am working from memory here, but I think the "S" is not from a contraction (i.e., trouble's) and is in fact a whole independent HAS with the "ha" elided

"ha" elided by clamps

I just listened to it and it DEFINITELY leans towards "'s", which is just mind-meltingly dumb. (I am being strongly influenced by the printed lyrics on the Rhapsody site, though.)

It basically sounds like "Trouble/Scum looking/For YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooouuuuuu..."

maybe it's trouble IS looking for you

excuse me i mean

trouble IS looking for

youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

oh shit I just read the Exploding Hearts bio

yikes

the Exploding Hearts are gooooooooooooooooood

http://www.rhapsody.com/the-exploding-hearts

okay yes, they were good if not really my bag

cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

oh, duh, for some reason I thought your original revive about them was partly referring to my blurb on the Pitchfork albums list! sorry, I'm behind here. I really wouldn't ever have expected you to like Exploding Hearts, but you could probably do worse than to spend a couple minutes of your Rhapsodizing on "Throwaway Style"

xpost - yay, a happy solution for all

yr blurb was swell dude

I went for "Modern Kicks" but yeah, definite talent there; really a shame what happened to them.

and haha I haven't been following the Pitchfork list so I had no idea you'd written a blurb about them! synergy, she is inscrutable

thanks, Que!

I concur, good stuff and really captures what I heard in the one song I played because I am miserly with my free Rhapsody plays unless lolz are involved

oh wait, I was slightly wrong about "The Very First Lie" -- I might think of "Out Right Now" more often, because every time I hear/think that phrase I think of that goofy chorus: "well'm OUT! RIGHT! NOW! budda might - be - backinda mornin"

ok wait so to get back into the conversation i have to listen to this exploding hearts band now?

talking about music is hard work

ok i def like them better than material issue

you can listen to them, but first you must buy a clamp

xpost TOO LATE

I don't know that there's any huge quality comparison to be made between the two of them. I only really mentioned Exploding Hearts here because they get at some of the same vibe I got out of Material Issue when I was younger. Somehow "teenagey" power-pop/punk, in leather jackets and skinny pants, maybe-similar vein of energetic pop songs about classic teenagey pop-song concerns, sorta earnest and guileless and enjoying themselves about it, both somehow slightly unfashionable or odd-man-out at the moment they were doing it ... I think the Exploding Hearts record is a lot better (especially now), but the way I like it reminds me a little of the way I liked Material Issue songs, I guess. (Maybe the untimely deaths in both bands play into that too, I dunno.)

(I shouldn't call the Hearts "teenagey" too much, since a lot of the lyrics on the album are older and wiser than that, but my favorite couplet of theirs is still "Stereo equipment is missing from places / Rockin' in my room making teenage faces")

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

And here's me thinking this poll was a reaction against the "Cure" vs "Queen is Dead" poll

Man, what typo resulted in this end-date??

yay zombie thread

Fans of Material Issue owe it to themselves to get hip to fellow Chicagoans Green:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrH87zE04Os&feature=related
Jim Ellison was part of an early Green lineup, and (rather obviously) based many of his songwriting ideas on those of Green's Jeff Lescher.

i think l0u1s jagg3r prompted this thread

B&S wins one more poll

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Lol @ tie to prove me rong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku8J1NYjOLI

^ used to have this Green record, never too keen on the vocals though tbh

In general, or just on that song?

this is the best poll ever

Not sure, that's the only song of theirs I can remember! xp

I'd recommend other stuff of theirs (there's lots on youtube); I've long thought Lescher to be one of the greatest vocalists of at least the past 30 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XblUIki5t9Y

^ okay this is pretty good actually!

Is Mr. Que still around to enjoy the fruits of his poll?