Call for proposals announced:
Call for ProposalsThe Pop Machine: Music and TechnologyExperience Music Project|Science Fiction Museum and Hall of FameSeattle, April 15-18, 2010 Popular music might be narrated as a story of sounds and the machines that make them. From the talking drum and parlor room piano to the Gibson Les Paul, from the Edison phonograph to Roland 808 beatbox and Antares Autotune software, how have pop’s contraptions reflected, inflected, and mediated musical history? What changes when we start with the technology that makes the ineffable material, and its shaping of modes of production and consumption? As we close out a decade of momentous change at all levels of popular music, this is a salient moment for rethinking the continual dialogue in pop between the new and the traditional. Note: this call is not aimed only at gearheads. What counts as human is produced in and through the use of technologies. We need to hear the voices that wrap flesh around the wiring. Topics can cover any era or style of music and may include, but are not limited to:Hardware: the effect of equipment on how we make, record, disseminate, and fetishize music.Business: economies of scale(s), the demand for profit in changing technological contexts.Identity: how youth culture, Afromodernism, and transgender/transsexual personas, manufactured divas and real fem-bots, among other pop categories, deploy technology.Technology in the 2000s: iPods, computer game music, music and war, digital technology exhuming analog artifacts.Aesthetics: "perfect sound forever" to pixelation and lossy file formats; Computer Love erotics; power chords from amplified blues to Guitar Hero."The street finds its own use for things": working class, global, racial, and other subaltern appropriations of technology, from sound systems to rock camps for girls.Bodies as technologies: the "natural" as a response to changing artifices; the voice as a modifiable tool.Music writing and the technological formations it rests upon.Anxieties and doubts: folk revivalists, roots rockers, and other tech-refuseniks. The Pop Conference at EMP|SFM, now in its ninth year, joins academics, critics, performers, and dedicated fans in a rare common discussion. The conference is sponsored by the American Music Partnership of Seattle (Experience Music Project, the University of Washington School of Music, and KEXP 90.3 FM), through a grant from the Paul G. Allen Family Foundation. This year’s program committee members are: writer and filmmaker Raquel Cepeda, Jasen Emmons (EMP|SFM), musician Sean Nelson, Tavia Nyong’o (New York University), Lauren Onkey (Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum), Ann Powers (Los Angeles Times), Jody Rosen (Slate), Barry Shank (Ohio State University), Tyina Steptoe (University of Washington), and Tim Taylor (University of California, Los Angeles).Please send proposals of 250 words, with 50 word bio, to organizer Eric Weisbard (University of Alabama) at E✧✧✧.Weisb✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧. Deadline for proposals is Tuesday, December 15. Panel proposals, for either three presenters (90 minutes) or four (105 minutes), should include overview language and individual proposals, plus panelist bios. We welcome unorthodox proposals and proposals aimed explicitly at a general interest audience.
Please send proposals of 250 words, with 50 word bio, to organizer Eric Weisbard (University of Alabama) at E✧✧✧.Weisb✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧. Deadline for proposals is Tuesday, December 15. Panel proposals, for either three presenters (90 minutes) or four (105 minutes), should include overview language and individual proposals, plus panelist bios. We welcome unorthodox proposals and proposals aimed explicitly at a general interest audience.
In case that address gets wiped, Eric dot Weisbard at gmail dot com
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 September 2009 00:28 (fifteen years ago)
It begins.
― vulva eyes (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 September 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago)
Speaking of music tech, did y'all see Wayne Marshall's posting on mobile music and bass culture and treble culture (trying to feel the bass through an ipod or iphone).
http://wayneandwax.com/?p=2332
― curmudgeon, Friday, 11 September 2009 13:19 (fifteen years ago)
One week to the deadline for submissions. I hope you're all cooking up something good.
― dad a, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago)
Yup. Now I just need to actually write it up...
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:09 (fifteen years ago)
Same here. I don't usually focus on the tech involved in music so it took forever to come up with a topic that fit the bill. Good luck!
― dad a, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:26 (fifteen years ago)
when i see these threads i get anxious and think should i try and come up with something for this cuz it was so much fun that time i went to seattle but how could it be better maybe i should leave well enough alone and just have a great memory of a great time but it WAS a lot of fun and it was nice to hang out with people but what if...
cuz i'm crazy like that.
and i would have to go for a reason to go all that way. which means i'd have to use my brain to come up with somethinng cool to read. and my brain isn't what it used to be. but it would be nice to see ned cuz i like ned!
the metal thing i read there is gonna be in some sort of emp book.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago)
Deservedly so. It ran in an issue of Yeti already, didn't it? (And thanks for the kind words!)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago)
Even if I don't submit a proposal, I plan on attending. You should come, Scott!
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago)
Ann Powers (Los Angeles Times)
Christ, if this isn't a c-o-i, I dunno what is.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago)
Theoretically speaking, she could also just make hubby Eric look bad through her selections, although yea maybe her position on this year's program committee does hurt a little. Although some might say her marital status doesn't matter here, since she is the LA Times pop music critic.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago)
Even that comes with <A HREF="http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2009/10/proper-care-and-feeding-of-upper-crust.html">an asterisk</A>.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago)
Two days to go. Proposal is mostly written though I'm going to let it rest a bit before polishing up a final draft.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 December 2009 17:58 (fifteen years ago)
Powers used to work at EMP so wtf at sour grapes for having her on the committee. Everyone should send in a pitch & attend regardless, this is an awesome time. Sent mine in, got a quick reply that I think means they're making decisions in January.
― dad a, Sunday, 13 December 2009 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
That's the usual time the responses roll out.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 December 2009 19:15 (fifteen years ago)
I'd love to participate, but the ideas just aren't coming. Except I think Eyedea & Abilities should be invited out to demonstrate the Vestex Controller 2000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY9Zun4u7W8
― Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 13 December 2009 20:17 (fifteen years ago)
Whoops, "One," not "2000."
― Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 13 December 2009 20:19 (fifteen years ago)
Maybe Trent Reznor would be a good guest, if they could get him?
― Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 13 December 2009 20:20 (fifteen years ago)
My pitch isn't about her, but this line
Bodies as technologies: the "natural" as a response to changing artifices; the voice as a modifiable tool.
got me thinking about Laurie Anderson in general and this bit in specific:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOl2DBIrBPs
― dad a, Sunday, 13 December 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago)
Sent! Good luck everyone!
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:45 (fifteen years ago)
I'm v. pleased to say my proposal has been accepted!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 January 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)
Congratulations! What is it on?
― David Katz (davek_00), Monday, 18 January 2010 21:11 (fifteen years ago)
very cool, ned! i hope you have a lot of fun with it.
― scott seward, Monday, 18 January 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks very much! The title is "The Listener as Electronic Librarian," and I already have a slew of ideas for it. Working for a library will definitely help there!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 January 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)
Oh man, that's fantastic Ned! Hope there'll be a way for those of us who won't be at EMP to read your paper.
― kshighway (ksh), Monday, 18 January 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)
Oh trust me, there will be.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 January 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)
Congratulations Ned! My proposal was turned down, sorry I won't be there this year.
― dad a, Monday, 18 January 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)
A bummer! V. much enjoyed yours last year.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 January 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)
It wouldn't have been the same without you (& your Disco Inferno). Not sure if I ever properly thanked you for that, so - thanks!
― dad a, Monday, 18 January 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)
Hey no worries! (I did tell you that the bandmembers themselves enjoyed that, yes?)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 January 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)
Well, that makes my day.
― dad a, Monday, 18 January 2010 22:08 (fifteen years ago)
Schedule now up.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)
And YES I'm on Friday and in the morning. I love getting things out of the way early.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)
I saw that last night and was sad because I'm not going and it looks like it'll be great. I hope they put stuff up on iTunes.
― dr. phil, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)
Also, being on a panel with Douglas Wolk, Tim Quirk and Nick Minichino = cool!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)
Uncool = being on a panel in the exact same time slot as that one!
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Friday, 19 February 2010 09:29 (fifteen years ago)
Get everyone to crash our panel. Though I suspect there would be complaints.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 February 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)
are these ever filmed or recorded or anything?
― Crackle Box, Friday, 19 February 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)
will plug my buddy's presentation here ... wish i could make it! http://www.empsfm.org/education/index.asp?categoryID=26&ccID=127&xPopConfBioID=1295&year=2010
― tylerw, Friday, 19 February 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)
It seems like they always talk about filming these or video-streaming them and then it never happens. :(
― curmudgeon, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)
The Conference should just pay Ned. What stamina – he sits there tap-tapping away.
― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 February 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)
If there were four of me I could cover the whole thing but alas.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)
i can't believe chuck is finally going to one of these. awww, now i really wish i were going. oh well. what can you do?
and now that this is written down in public i can cut and paste it:
"He lives in Austin, Texas, and is currently putting together a collection of his best writing for Duke University Press."
― scott seward, Friday, 19 February 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
Paging Ned:
so what is jump up in the air actually called
"jump up in the air and stay there""jump up in the air (and stay there)""jump up in the air (stay there)"
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:27 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
it's when i ask questions like those that i reflect on how last.fm has ruined my life
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:28 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― dylan's craggy larynx (jaymc), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)
Um, context?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)
Oh wait, I get it. I thought you were asking me to answer Lex's question.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)
And thank you, yes, that's the kind of thing I'll be talking about!
haha
i think it was tracer hand who said recently that our brave new digital future sometimes feels a lot like unpaid data entry work, also cf rtc and i at Teedra Moses
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 26 February 2010 09:18 (fifteen years ago)
Congrats Ned and co.
If I wasn't going to be in Holland at Roadburn on these exact dates, I'd totally be in Seattle rooting for you.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 26 February 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)
Ned, your topic reminded me of this old article by Chris Fujiwara (film scholar/journalist/Cul de Sac's first bass player). Thought you might like the way he frames some of the issues (at least until he breaks out the Bakhtin). Enjoy!
Will you be liveblogging your own presentation as it happens?
― dad a, Friday, 26 February 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)
so mad I had to miss the conference this year
― The Reverend, Sunday, 18 April 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)
Definitely a bummer you weren't here!
Coverage complete, overview and the clip of my presentation to come...
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 April 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)
I will probably never ever get to attend one of these things so really appreciate the coverage, Ned. And glad to hear your presentation went well.
― Roz, Sunday, 18 April 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, thanks Ned--I'm enjoying living vicariously through you.
― dr. phil, Sunday, 18 April 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)
Never a problem! Always good to do but I do admit I'm glad I'm done for this year, starting to feel the post-conference crash. Glad I'm not going back to work until Tuesday!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 April 2010 21:15 (fifteen years ago)
Ned - did you go to the panel with Xgau Eddy, Powers, Wolk, etc, didn't see that on your site.
― Mark, Sunday, 18 April 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)
In some years past the New York Times and others have had writeups of this on Monday. We'll see...
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 18 April 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)
xpost -- Was at another panel but it was covered on Twitter by about fifty people. Search #EMP2010
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 April 2010 22:57 (fifteen years ago)
http://twitter.com/randlechris/statuses/12369638561
― ksh, Sunday, 18 April 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)
same thing, worded a bit differently: http://twitter.com/tbquirk/statuses/12369530418
― ksh, Sunday, 18 April 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)
No way do I look as young as this fellow says (and I also smile more, and didn't mention AC/DC), but I kind of like his writeup anyway:
http://blog.kexp.org/blog/2010/04/18/emp-pop-con-day-one-part-two-and-day-two-part-one-church-girls-rooms-radio-kills-the-vaudeville-star-lady-sound-gloves-and-the-dude-etc-etc/
Was very fun being there, and meeting and re-connecting with people.
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 April 2010 12:08 (fifteen years ago)
Lots of folks were tweeting your line about wanting to send the Animal Collective guy far away.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 19 April 2010 12:34 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, that would've been a difficult wisecrack not to make, given the perfect setup.
Btw, a couple panels that I got a lot out of that I haven't seen anybody mention were Charles Hughes on how FDR's Rural Electrification Act changed music in the '30s and Melanie Morgan on Regional Mexican Radio (the latter only attended by four people, which was sad, but there was definitely a lot of stuff going on Thursday afternoon.) Lots of other good panels, too, of course, and Nile Rodgers at the opening keynote thing was a laugh riot.
And here's Chris Estey on some Thursday panels:
http://blog.kexp.org/blog/2010/04/17/day-one-of-emp-pop-conference-2010-at-the-emplsfm-they-don%E2%80%99t-call-it-the-bleeding-edge-for-nothing-or-standing-on-the-shoulders-of-longing-for-the-past/
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 April 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)
So it's moving to Los Angeles next year?
― curmudgeon, Monday, 19 April 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)
Apparently they're talking about that; don't think that's been finalized yet.
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 April 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)
did you have fun, chuck?
― scott seward, Monday, 19 April 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, lots! But I spent too much money and drank too much beer. (Also, I was a nervous wreck most of Saturday, waiting for my panel to start. Was worried I wouldn't have anything to say! I swear I'm not joking.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 April 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)
It was very great meeting Chuck at last! A good soul.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 April 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)
that basically sounds like my experience when i went. lots of fun, beer, money spent, and some dread about the thing i was there for. and meeting ned, of course. LOTS of dread there.
― scott seward, Monday, 19 April 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)
xp So is Ned!! Great meeting him, too! Honestly, there were so many people I've been talking to for decades but had never met in person (or maybe had only met for five minutes once when they stopped by the Voice office years ago, like Kembrew McLeod); that was really cool.
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 April 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)
one of the reasons i kinda fear the idea of going to another one is that i had such a perfectly perfect experience when i went. what are the odds of that happening again? or maybe i'm just a weirdo. that could be it.
― scott seward, Monday, 19 April 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)
I had a great time my two years (although I did want to see more of the city on the second trip). Would have loved to get beers with xhuxk and catch Ned's presentation.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 April 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)
Well the latter I can help you with! I've reviewed the file -- thanks to Jaq again! -- and all I have to do is download and split it for YouTube when I get home. Hopefully all up by tomorrow, along with the actual text.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 April 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)
Okay, so:
http://nedraggett.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/video-and-text-of-my-emp-pop-conference-2010-presentation-the-listener-as-electronic-librarian/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddp-QlqDtpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOB0Vzh6ee4
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 02:46 (fifteen years ago)
oh man, PSYCHED. gonna watch 'em now. thanks Ned!
― "excellent sound-of-a-generation indie" (ksh), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 02:48 (fifteen years ago)
(apologies for gorillapod slippage around the 1:18 mark in the first half, 15 secs of shakiness while I got it straightened back up)
― Jaq, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 03:08 (fifteen years ago)
awesome speech
looool @ the Wolk part too
― "excellent sound-of-a-generation indie" (ksh), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 03:09 (fifteen years ago)
I loved that part, I love it even more now. So brilliant.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 03:11 (fifteen years ago)
So what was the deal with that nekkid guy dancing to Alanis Morisette?
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)
One of those 'best left obscure' things, I suspect.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)
xp I really enjoyed that, thanks for uploading it!
A few qs: Have you done any other EMP talks...and is the submission criteria open to everyone, so a uni undergrad like me could possibly pitch something? Wishful thinking hehehe
― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)
You're most welcome!
This was my first presentation to EMP but I've attended four or five of them now. Anyone is welcome to submit. The call for proposals usually goes around in September/October with a December deadline.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks for posting those clips, Ned! As a first-time presenter/attendee I loved last weekend - there were great papers on every panel and fun times in between them. I'm glad Nile Rodgers is apparently writing a memoir.
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks for recording/posting that! Good presentation.
― black people for less (The Reverend), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)
Hey, thanks everyone. I'm my own worst critic so I'm v. pleased to know it went over well!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)
Loved the line about 'the digital revolution' being more akin to unpaid data entry.
― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)
Ha, that came from here! Read upthread!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)
ILM...is there anything it can't do?
― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
My paper is up: http://thediscography.tumblr.com/post/536754097/heres-the-paper-i-delievered-on-sunday-at-the-emp-pop
― Please Do Not Swagga Jack Me (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 23:08 (fifteen years ago)
Nice, Matos! I see Todd Edwards paired with Marc Leclair when people talk about that stuff. I'm personally less familiar with DJ Koze, but his work makes for an interesting compare/contrast in your paper.
― Olivier Messiaen Control (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 00:17 (fifteen years ago)
And @Ned across many xposts, thanks for posting the videos, I enjoyed hearing the full paper after getting an overview during your San Francisco visit.
― Olivier Messiaen Control (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 00:18 (fifteen years ago)
Ha, I can't imagine how I was trying to sum it up then, now that I think about it!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 00:55 (fifteen years ago)
Oh psych, you used the Hermenaut piece! Great job all around.
― dad a, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 04:06 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks -- meantime I've gone through and updated all notes to include links and to clean up glitches in spacing and the like, plus links to full papers as I hear about them (thus Matos's).
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)
And that said, one last post:
http://nedraggett.wordpress.com/2010/04/21/and-final-thoughts-on-the-emp-pop-conference-2010/
And...scene.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 April 2010 02:49 (fifteen years ago)
kexp blog wrapup
http://blog.kexp.org/blog/2010/04/19/2010-pop-conference-at-empsfm-the-pop-machine-wrap-up/#more-37046
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 April 2010 02:52 (fifteen years ago)
http://amusicology.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/2010-pop-conference-at-emp-review/
I likeed reading on this blog entry about how Daphne Carr's paper got presented on cassette tape because she could not attend.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 26 April 2010 23:56 (fifteen years ago)
ooooooooooo, I wanna go to Los Angeles next year!
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.afropop.org/multi/feature/ID/940/African%20Music%20Breaches%20American%20Rock%20(Banning%20Eyres%202010%20EMP%20Pop%20Conference%20talk)
I posted this on the Global Whirled World 2010 thread also--Banning Eyre's "Not Your Daddy's Rumba" presentation
― curmudgeon, Friday, 30 April 2010 13:39 (fifteen years ago)
Semi-related to Banning's presentation, I saw in Rolling Stone Magazine a little blurb where Vampire Weekend's singer says he reads about reggaeton on Wayne Marshall's wayne and wax blog.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 3 May 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)