The Great Lost Albums

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what are the great forgotten (or never heard in the first place) albums from the past three decades. Albums which don't belong to any canon, but which are not just a specialist taste either - i.e. records which you think a majority of ILM would love if they only got the chance to here them.

my nominations:

70's: Present Tense by Shoes 80's: Translucence by Poly Sterene 90's: Black Bastards by KMD

neil, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Small World Experience - any of their two efforts would blow anyone with a heart away.

Andrew, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"hear them" i meant.

neil, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mm, Shoes. Great band in their own understated way.

I'd nominate the Walkabouts' Satisfied Mind, but I would.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Small World Experience are wonderful.. Brisbane never ceases to amaze me sometimes

electric sound of jim, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Re: Black Bastards. This album wasn't released until about 10 years after it was recorded - apparently the cover art, which depicted a black cartoon caricature being lynched, was considered too conroversial at the time. I downloaded it off emusic.com, taking advantage of their 50 free mp3's offer, and I can't imagine anyone with an interest in hip hop being disappointed if they did the same. (I'm not very expert in hip hop though, so I hope someone more knowledgable than me backs me up on this.)

neil, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

how is "satisfied mind" a lost album, anyway? Great, I would agree, but lost? Did you misplace it somewhere?

pauls00, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd never heard of it.

neil, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ROC and Virgin by ROC (from 1996 and 1997 respectively) are both solid gold pop and all but unheard, it seems. There are properly terrifying moments therein, also. And I Dig Your Voodoo by The Monsoon Bassoon from 1999 is utterly fantastic and one of the best records of the last few years and wildly ambitious and entirely successful on artistic level but self-financed microness and therefore similarly overlooked. Please investigate. PLEASE. Or, y'know, bawl me out for picking records that you've HEARD OF, either will make me happy.

alex linsdell, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i believe that the problem cover of "black bastards" was actually an image other than the one described. i will atttempt to verify and report back, unless someone beats me to it or corrects me on this...

Ron, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well, looking around google the line seems to be that the hanging cover was the one. but a friend had told me otherwise so i will ask him.

Ron, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Satisfied Mind almost doesn't exist in American terms -- it got a release two years after the fact and then disappeared again -- and being a covers album is sometimes seen as not ranking with the slew of mostly originals out there by the group. But as a revelatory, fascinating listen, with some performances that are simply to die for, I value it, treasure it, immensely, have since I first heard it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

From the 90s: The Family of God - s/t; and Even As We Speak - "Feral Pop Frenzy"

(I know Rob M and esoj know the latter, but still...)

Jeff W, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think this might just squirm into the nineties - North London Spiritualist Church by Electric Music.

Mr Swygart, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Freaky Trigger by Win always used to be my answer to this. I don't really have an answer now to be honest.

Tom, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I suppose I should put in my desperate plea for a copy of Win's first LP if anyone could burn me a copy (I gave mine to a friend in college 12 years ago, they never returned it, leaving a gaping hole in my life that is "Uh! Tears Baby" sized).

Looking at the question again, wasn't this kind of like "102 Beats That" anyway? My answer for a forgotten but loved album would probably have to be "Unholy soul" by the Orchids, for being poptastic, dreamy, melodic, everything a GOOD guitar pop record should be, only without sales or kudos. One day, you will all realise how wonderful the Orchids were...

Rob M, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Smile - The Beach Boys

Chris, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Exile On Main Street - Pussy Galore. I have it somewhere on CD. Not great, naturally, just very funny.

nath @ woik, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Rough Trade USA's demise put some great albums out of print, one of which was the album by Rainy Day - all covers from the 60s/70s, done by Steve Roback, Kendra Smith, Susanna Hoffs (!!), Michael Quercio, and others. Kendra Smith sings "Flying on the Ground is Wrong," which is probably one of my favorite recordings EVAH. Susanna Hoffs does a fine job singing "I'll Keep It With Mine" and "I'll Be Your Mirror." It's a real treat, considering its dubious "Hey let's have a studio party and record some covers" concept. Scour those used bins.

Ernest, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm going to go with the one and only album ever released by German- American-Canadian post-punky power-trio, BELFEGORE. Released by Elektra records in 1984, the album generated one arguably classic single, "All That I Wanted" (oldsters like myself might remember the video for same, directed by Oscar-winning Zbigniew Rybczynski, featuring a vertigo-inducing loop of individuals running feverishly from an unseen menace on a pier in Lower Manhattan.....eerily precient to events that would occur almost twenty year later). Despite being heavily influenced by Killing Joke (Krautrock guru and one-time Killing Joke producer Conny Plank produced Belfegore's debut) and Joy Division, the American press didn't quite know what to make of them, awkwardly profiling them in metal rags like Circus and Creem next to hairy glambos like Hanoii Rocks and then-prog-revivalists Marillion. Legend has it that lead singer/guitarist Meikel Clauss had a viciuos falling-out with the other thirds of his band over royalties and jumped ship....according to a website caled Xtreme Musician, Clauss quit music in 1985 and is now a "healer" in Dusseldorf, Germany. Possibly over the long-standing royalty dispute, Elektra records has never seen fit to re-release the Belfegore album on compact disc, thus it remains a "lost classic."

Alex in NYC, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Got another one, actually. California radio station KROQ and then- fledgling Rhino records released an album of Devo covers caled DEVOTEES sometime in the early-80's, comprised solely of entries to a radio contest. The covers range from the ridiculous to sublime, twisting anthems from Devo's first two albums (pre-"Whip It") totally beyond recognition. Contestant bands included the Bakersfield Boogie Boys and the Touchtone Tuners. Whether you're a Devo fan or not, it's a hilarious collection by any standard, and well worth picking up. Never been released on CD to my knowledge.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Starry Eyed & Laughing - Byrds copyists lost in a 70's sea of hair. If Big Star can get acclaimed years later why not these guys? If so my original pressings might be worth more than a few quid, not that I'd sell them but .... y'know.

And Dion's Spector produced "Born To be With You". Though to be fair it was in Mojo's Buried Treasure section a while ago and has so been reissued on CD.

M

Winkelmann, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"ROC and Virgin by ROC (from 1996 and 1997 respectively) are both solid gold pop and all but unheard, it seems"

Ooh yes, fabulous albums. Whatever did happen to ROC, I wonder. I can't believe they didn't get the recognition that was awarded to, say, Saint Etienne and Belle & Sebastian. Both of whose 'perfect [summery] pop' niche ROC slotted nicely into.

And: Cindy Dall's eponymous/un-named album from about '97. Sweet, haunting/haunted, spectral music. Floating on air and barely there but supremely moving. A dropped jigsaw piece.
I don't even have it myself anymore, my copy was stolen. Gah.

DavidM, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

www.rocmusic.com, are still going, hurrah! you can get assorted old singles from here also, and probably should.

alex linsdell, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd go with either Long Fin Killie; I've said it before on here, but I can't *believe* these guys didn't get more attention and adoration.

Also, Hair and Skin Trading Company put out some pretty great albums in the early 90s - they are (I believe) the rhythm section from Loop, and their sound is more texturally and melodically varied than Loop's - which, when looked at from one perspective, is something of a loss, but actually comes across really well on record.

Clarke B., Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Th' Faith Healers-anything. I'm suprised they didn't catch on in the states. Even Spin Magazine, the I give you hip-cred hype machine at the time,loved them!!

Eleventh Dream Day-Beet. Jumped ship to Atlantic in 1989, way before everybody was crying sellout. I was worried it was gonna suck, boy was I wrong,eventually they went back to the indies. Hard to locate at least in my neck of the woods but well worht the hunt.

brg30, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

they are (I believe) the rhythm section from Loop

That they were. Only really got around to actively liking them fairly recently.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Chad and Jeremy's "Of Cabbages and Kings"

Prude, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

long fin killie were underappreciated sure but you can find all of their albums in the 99 cent bin at nearly every record store.

and not sure how a band on sarah is lost with that built in fanbase, but yeah, again, even as we speak released one of the most perfect pop albums ever anxious to hear the radio sessions cd that is surely due soon?

don't have suggestions of my own, maybe the rodney allen lp which is the best teen angst record ever but likely to remain out of my reach forever(well i have a third or fourth generation tape not put to cd).

keith, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

World Party Goodbye Jumbo

Lord Custos III, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Francoise Hardy: En Anglais
Wendy & Bonnie: Genesis (just re-released!)

Jez, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...
re ROC .. glad to see there are (were??) others who liked their twisted pop .. the good news is they are back
.. and the new stuff is just as good/mad as their previous releases .. new single 'journey to the centre of brixton' is fantastic.
more details in the usual places of course.

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

The Human Switchboard: Who's Landing in My Hangar, from 1981 or 1982

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

The Passions' Michael and Miranda and Thirty Thousand Feet Over China albums don't seem to exist in any form. Given that everyone loves "I'm in Love with a German Filmstar" I've always wondered why.

ortho_bob (ortho_bob), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if it's "lost" but I would go with the Jan and Dean Anthology. If people only more people knew how twisted this record is.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

That one that P. Diddy did with DJ Hell.

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Carnival Art - Thrumdrone
School Of Fish - Human Cannonball

Not groundbreaking albums exactly, but both a cut above the morass of post-Pixies college rock of the time.

mzui (mzui), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

"MDFMK", the eponynmous mirror-image re-somethinging of KMFDK.

Mathhew Fisher's first delightful solo album from 1971 or soemthing.

Ian in Brooklyn, Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

The Insect Trust--Hoboken Saturday Night

Folk jazz rock country blues children's music, or something. And Elvin Jones is on it! Just reissued on CD.

moriarty (moriarty), Friday, 16 December 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)

Seven Songs By Sunset by John Shuttleworth.

Cassette-only concept album detailing a day of barrell-scraping songwriting to fulfill a contractual obligation.

everything, Friday, 16 December 2005 01:57 (twenty years ago)

ELO: Out Of The Blue

May not be obscure, but really does deserve to be top of any canon.

Carl Handwriting (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

wtf

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Friday, 16 December 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

http://www.kimfowley.net/images/inlandempire/skip_battin.jpg

So he looked like Charles Manson. What kind of reason is that to not have sold well?

jim wentworth (wench), Friday, 16 December 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

Mellow Candle - Swaddling Songs
Janis Ian - Present Company

Joe (Joe), Friday, 16 December 2005 03:41 (twenty years ago)

**The Passions' Michael and Miranda and Thirty Thousand Feet Over China albums don't seem to exist in any form. Given that everyone loves "I'm in Love with a German Filmstar" I've always wondered why.**

Yes - I don't think they have ever been on CD. I guess it's too much to expect remastered, expanded editions from Polydor, but you'd expect that someone there would have the wit to put out a budget-priced best of called 'In Love With A German Filmstar' or something equally imaginitive. M&M is probably in my top 30 albums ever, should I ever get round to writing a list.

Dr.C, Friday, 16 December 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

Walker Brothers "Nite Flights" - their last release I think in 1978. Think Scott was taken with the whole Berlin-Bowie/Neu type scene as is evidenced on The Electrician and Nite Flights.

JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Friday, 16 December 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

I think Berlin-Bowie was rather taken with Scott as is evidenced on "Look Back In Anger"

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 December 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

Riverside - One

slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Friday, 16 December 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

hoax or not, i would have enjoyed pavement collaborating with the USC marching band.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 16 December 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

Which band has the most lost albums? Seems like it has to be the Beach Boys, if you count various solo projects. Dennis Wilson's unreleased album. Smile. Didn't Brian record one in the 80s that was never released? And they had another one in the 70s that never came out too right?

Mark Rich@rdson, Friday, 30 November 2007 03:42 (eighteen years ago)

I was thinking of a different kind of lost album I guess, should have started a new thread.

Mark Rich@rdson, Friday, 30 November 2007 03:43 (eighteen years ago)

The Gurus - The Gurus Are Here

Thank you, Sundazed!!

Cliftonb, Friday, 30 November 2007 06:22 (eighteen years ago)

I think Munich Machine by Hell is one of the best electronic albums of the 90s, electro/house with a dark and seedy, almost desperate vibe, but based on the thread I started about it, few people have heard it:

Hell: Munich Machine

Tuomas, Friday, 30 November 2007 12:14 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

Dusted Reviews, 04.30.10, and OTM:

(Chris Bell's) I Am The Cosmos is one of the two or three greatest "lost albums" in the history of rock and roll

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 3 May 2010 13:08 (sixteen years ago)

Limp Bizkit's elusive 'Panty Sniffer' and Space's 'Love You More Than Football'

PaulTMA, Monday, 3 May 2010 13:52 (sixteen years ago)

still haven't gotten the new I Am The Cosmos -- can't quite bring myself to spend the $$$$. Anyone want to say it's the greatest thing ever and totally worth it? I have the Ryko version.

tylerw, Monday, 3 May 2010 15:15 (sixteen years ago)

VU was 'lost' till it was released around 1985

Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 10:09 (fifteen years ago)

ten years pass...

Child Rebel Soldiers : Kanye, Pharrell & Lupe Fiasco.

Both Us Placers and Don’t Stop were very promising.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 22 August 2020 15:41 (five years ago)

All of them were at the top of their game in 2007 too.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 22 August 2020 15:46 (five years ago)

Juliana Hatfield’s God’s Foot. Legitimately insane that her label rejected it. I hope it can get a legitimate, properly mastered release one day

beamish13, Saturday, 22 August 2020 16:30 (five years ago)

the magical world of the strands

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 23 August 2020 20:43 (five years ago)

The Great Lost Kinks Album is worth seeking out, though several tracks are very minor, but "The Way Love Used To Be" is amazing, and the whole thing is a Kinks way of life, around and in the corners. Occasionally I remember thinking of rounding up my own Great Losts like this, incl. stray b-sides, soundtrack bits--ibut this guy actually does it, and this is the one I started with: http://albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.com/2016/07/buffalo-springfield-stampede.html
He's an opinoinated cuss, but stay with him and he'll tell you just why he chose each track, also about audio choices (sometimes upgrading both, dropping one track for another for more unified effect of a certain kind etc., also tweaking the stereo etc.) (Scroll down right rail to see artists, listed alphabetically by first name, or B for Buffalo Springfield.)
Links for Buffalo Springfield's Stampede, Captain Beefheart's It Comes To You In A Plain Brown Wrapper, Bob Dylan's Medicine Sunday, the Garcia-proposed, Dylan-rejected version of Dylan and the Dead, and 2017 upgrade of Syd-era Pink Floyd gathering The Shape of Questions To Heaven all work, and I checked for viruses etc.
However, the other two Syd Floyds in this trilogy, Themes From An Imaginary Western and Vantage Pointhad some kind of bait-and-switch-looking links, so didn't do those.
No idea about any other Albums That Never Were; he's done a bunch.

dow, Sunday, 23 August 2020 22:11 (five years ago)

Oh yeah, also good link for the United States of America set, which he titles Gifts and Creatures: For my re-imagining, we will use the core of The American Metaphysical Circus, but patch in the original United States of America recording of “You Can Never Come Down”, the three Moskowitz-led United States of America recordings from 1968 and two outtakes from the self-titled 1967 sessions in order to make it a more appropriate follow-up that will almost solely feature lead vocals by either Dorothy or Joseph. Sources are simply the 1996 One Way Records remaster of The American Metaphysical Circus and the 2004 Sundazed remaster of The United States of America, the later featuring a number of the required bonus tracks for this reimagining. We will call the album Gifts and Creatures, the original, intended title of The American Metaphysical Circus, with cover art featuring imagery from The United States of America’s live shows in 1968.

dow, Sunday, 23 August 2020 22:19 (five years ago)

The Great Lost Kinks Album was the lost album for me when I was in high school, so lost that I never managed to get a copy. In recent years have finally listened to a playlist of it. "The Way Love Used to Be" is on the Percy soundtrack I guess, which also has the great "God's Children" which I was first exposed to on a MOJO film music CD.

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 August 2020 22:50 (five years ago)

Oh yeah, a playlist, hadn't thought of that. Which service has 'em all? Wiki has backstory and even indicates which track came out on which subsequent comp (apparently all or have been in catalogue since TGLKA was deleted in '75, per Ray's lawyers):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Lost_Kinks_Album

dow, Monday, 24 August 2020 01:29 (five years ago)

I should put together a Wanna Buy A Bridge? playlist, Dan Selzer has told the story on ilx threads of his getting the licensing for all tracks but one---fell though at the last second---so no dice.

dow, Monday, 24 August 2020 01:32 (five years ago)

Which service has 'em all?
Which service do you have?

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 August 2020 01:47 (five years ago)

Seems like there is an official Rough Trade Wanna Buy A Bridge? playlist on Spotify.

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 August 2020 01:53 (five years ago)

Then there is one on Apple Music as well, with the same track order as the Wikipedia page.

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 August 2020 02:00 (five years ago)

And Dan S’s track order, with two songs added.

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 August 2020 02:00 (five years ago)

Can't tell you how often I heard "Alternative Ulster" on the Downtown Beirut jukebox but still don't know the proper lyrics. Trying to avoid clicking on any lyrics button right now.

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 August 2020 02:05 (five years ago)

Probably heard it even more than Lulu singing "The Boat That I Row," which interweb just told me was written by Neil Diamond.

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 August 2020 02:09 (five years ago)

Currently I just listen to YouTube Music (and Bandcamp, but they wouldn't have Great Lost Kinks or Wanna Buy A Bridge? playlists, I assume).

dow, Monday, 24 August 2020 02:30 (five years ago)

They might

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 August 2020 02:32 (five years ago)

Great deconstructionist site Dow, tons of stuff to delve into!

calstars, Monday, 24 August 2020 03:14 (five years ago)

YouTube has both. xp

Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Monday, 24 August 2020 03:22 (five years ago)

one month passes...

https://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/typicalgirls/2006-February/000749.html

The initial hold-up was Warner's control of We are All Prostitutes, though I think there may have been some issues with the Robert Wyatt as well.

Everything else was more or less going to be licensed from the original artists who owned the rights or the small labels who did.

Geoff Travis gave me the "ok".

I met Nikki Sudden after his show when he came to NY, he was going to help me with liner notes and getting in touch with the Raincoats. Then he died later that night.

I kinda lost steam after that. I did consider an "alternate" Wanna Buy a Bridge with a dozen totally different early Rough Trade tracks, instead of just tacking on my expanded version.

dan selzer, Friday, 23 October 2020 16:26 (five years ago)


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