How is Schooldisco different from Electroclash?

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your opinions please!

― gareth, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Electroclash has no ballads and no dress code. I wrote an NYLPM piece about School Disco today actually but Blogger isn't publishing yet. The essential difference I think is that Electroclash is aspirational, like an actual school disco, whereas School Disco isn't.

― Tom, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ballads rock!

― Paul, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

They certainly do. Song for song the stuff School Disco plays is probably better than the stuff on an Electroclash compilation but the context puts me off a bit.

― Tom, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

People didn't wear their school uniforms to the real xchool discos anyway.

― Venga, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

a colleage of mine and his girlfriend went to one of those (they had a good time). Another colleage of mine said she would never even try going to the schoold disco as she thinks it's a 'girl in uniform' thing and that has all sorts of negative connections to her (though men also wear it).

― Julio Desouza, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what the christ is school disco

― brains, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

www.schooldisco.com

― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well first of all School Disco is a promoters company and electroclash is a genre. There's not going to any new School Disco singles is there?

What does School Disco play? Abba? YMCA? I don't know for sure but I have a strong feeling it's a complete load of shit "you've gotta like this song, come on, lighten up" crap.

― Ronan, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

They're still defineeblae subgenres Ronan. Stop being so fucking dumb.

― Graham, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the posters SD have up round london are like a concentrated dose of what the 70s was actually like, oddly enough => i doubt this is particularly deliberate, let alone "ironic", but the actual nature of the casual crappy pervasive sexism of advertising back then, and the general unconsidered drab narrow rubbishness of everything...

― mark s, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

''What does School Disco play? Abba? YMCA? I don't know for sure but I have a strong feeling it's a complete load of shit "you've gotta like this song, come on, lighten up" crap.''

A SD would play the music that an actual school disco would play.

― Julio Desouza, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

SD doesn't though. Case in point: the uber-Schooldisco track is quite possibly

― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

SD doesn't though. Case in point: the uber-Schooldisco track is quite possibly "Build Me Up Buttercup". Released in 1969. School discos didn't even exist then, did they? Even if they did: 1969, say you were 15 then (School Disco age). You'd have been born in 1954, thus you'd now be 48. How many 48 year olds are there attending this shitfest? "Oliver's Army" was on the first SD album as well. Uncensored.

It's the triumph of music's worst enemy: self-knowingness. "Ooooh, look at me, I'm dancing to Rick Astley, aren't I so knowing and ironic?". I don't care if its bringing the fun back into clubland. I don't want my music to be "fun", I want it to be enjoyable. There's a diference.

― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Come on Dom! You wet blanket! You're no fun man!

And I stand by my comments, electroclash is used to describe all sorts of stuff from International Deejay Gigolo to DMX Krew or maybe even Drexciya or something if you're being liberal. And I don't think School Disco is a subgenre, what's it a subgenre of?

Hey they've even got Sooty and Sweep DJing at "Schoolfields", what a bonkers bunch of nuttahs they are at School Disco eh? It's Brandon Block and Alex P for people who won't pretend to like cheesey trance music and drink lager instead of banging pills all day.

― Ronan, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

if i could despise it any more i'd need an ambulance. just one more f*cking cunt's trick london inflicts on the rest of the country. we gave you the beatles and the smiths, you gave us 'school disco' and 'capital gold'

cunts.

for proof, see the lead in this week's guardian review.

i say it again : FUCKING cunts.

― piscesboy, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Christ on a bike. Only in England eh?

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Corporate Events? The Managing Director in shorts? Bleaugh!

Still, I guess it clues in anyone who wants to take this to the next level ... officeChristmasParty.com anyone? Complete with a wall of photocopiers, and stationery cupboards next to the lavatories?

Work is the new leisure.

On the plus side this probably means that finding a copy of Dolce Vita by Ryan Paris on P2P should get easier.

― phil, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"the general unconsidered drab narrow rubbishness of everything": that is my new catchphrase

― Robin Carmody, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Stella for the lads, Baccardi breezers for the girls".

Remember all those kids you hated at school? I think you've found where to find them.

― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 6 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ELECTROCLASH IS NOT A GENRE: The word 'electroclash' is *trademarked* with the US Trademark Office by Larry Tee. The word represents only Larry Tee's choice of bands he pays to play his bookings. It is not a genre, it is his booking/curating business name for his regular shows in NYC. Electro is a genre, as is electro-breaks or electro- funk, as these words all have a long history of use describing traits in the music. In the case of 'electroclash'(tm), you'd be including John Selway but not, say, Adult, merely because Adult hadn't (yet?...) been booked by Larry Tee to play. Don't let Larry Tee decide for you what is good and bad electro -- i.o.w. abandon the term 'electroclash'.

...unless you like promoting his shows for him.

― DJ BrokenWindow, Sunday, 7 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think you're the one promoting is shows, DJ BrokenWindow. I don't care what Mr Tee's trademarked. If I want to use "electroclash" as a subgenre name, I will. And people who heve never even heard of Williamsburg know what I mean when I do. Hey presto!

― JoB, Sunday, 7 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Haha, translation: I wish I lived in London

This question doesn't make sense. Possibly a question that is similar and would make sense would be "What is the difference between SchoolDisco and Renegade Pop Party?"

The answer would be "the haircuts"

― jamesmichaelward, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If I want to use "electroclash" as a subgenre name, I will. And people who heve never even heard of Williamsburg know what I mean when I do.

Sorry, but no they don't.

― misterhungry, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(Actually, using "electroclash" in the trademarked show-promotion sense makes this question even out a lot better: promoter-genre versus promoter-genre...)

― nabisco%%, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Whatif SD isn't for the jockboys but the outcasts who now have one last chance to go back and do it right? Inspired by the terrible Never Been Kissed, no doubt...

― Sterling Clover, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well then it's even worse Sterl cos the reason those outcasts were outcasts was that there was a 'right' way to 'do it' - i.e. in your reading its a final self-betrayal for the outcasts, a recantation not a redemption.

― Tom, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

They are saved from being outcasts surely -- they must recant to transcend? Much less objectionable than the "oh, look at all the people at my school reunion who became fat mechanics. good for me that i studied hard and became a yuppie!" trope, no?

― Sterling Clover, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

School Disco seems like a clever variation on the 'School Dinners' theme-restaurants that were popular in the UK abt ten years ago, where punters got served up custard by saucy schoolgirls, and got 'caned' if they were 'naughty'. It's not all abt the music, in other words.

― Andrew L, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have no recollection of those at all!

― Tom, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That's what they all say Tom.

― Andrew L, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

These things make me think that all Englishmen really are like Nigel from the Drew Carey Show.

― Sterling Clover, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

rejetion of house/trance domination of clubland - done in different ways (garage doesn't count because is selective and, arguably, a different strata audience wise)

― gareth, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

b-b-but then how is schooldisco different from sitting in watching TV, or going to pubs instead of clubs, or or or techno?

― Ronan, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm not saying they are the same, i'm just wondering how they are different, and what similarities there are. jmw is right that renegade pop party might be a better comparison (but that is more overt i guess)

― gareth, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the problem I have with it is that I find it hard to imagine anyone saying "I'm into schooldisco" and this meaning something to do with the music (or meaning anything at all). Whereas someone saying "I'm into electroclash" would prompt me to wonder who they liked and disliked within that, musically. Schooldisco for me doesn't yet mean alot really, it's not something you're into, it's something you probably liked already given a new name. It's not new, and I think electroclash (i dont like that word for it, prefer nu-electro) is new. We could debate that of course but it's going over old ground a little perhaps.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

school dinners: i *so* wish i hadn't googled this as i feel ill again, and only the tht of YOUR nausea makes me feel better (this is what the actual 70s was like, also)

note this slathers itself in irony — "the funniest night you'll ever have" — because IT IS SO NOT ABOUT IRONY and deep down is afraid of itself, even!!

― mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In other words, dance music has arrived at its own 1975 - Schooldisco.com = Bay City Rollers, Manumission/Cream = ELP/Yes, Chemical Brothers = Roxy Music circa Siren (once groundbreaking, now coasting on past reputation). Punk, therefore, being just around the corner. Plug-N-Play anyone?

― Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I just saw the "School Dinners" thing. Very sad; a slightly soiled variant on those "Secret Agent/Casino Nights/Murder Mystery/Blues Brothers Dinner and Dance" ads you see on the tube. Scared of dying, of course; that's what it's all about.

― Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This is very very sad.

― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Commercial or crossover dance might be at it's 1975, but who cares....

― Ronan, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

...

(not very good, i think now)

― Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Never Been Kissed"? haha should be called "Never Been Watched"!

But where oh where does this leave room for the adorable Sophie Ellix- Bextor?

― Sophie #1 Phan, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

whatever next: punk disco? (i hope i haven't given ideas to anyone).

― Julio Desouza, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sir you are clearly too young to remember the golden days of James Chance and the Contortions.

― Schoolly Schama, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

why don't you 'educate' me on them. Haven't got hold of any no-wave or james chance here in canada therefore send me a rec.

― Julio Desouza, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

electroclash might have become just a trademark, but the only thing I know is that Schooldisco itÂ´s just a thing for drunk and stupid guys dressed up in stupid outfits looking for the girl with the shortest skirt and listening to stupid "retro" songs. Schooldisco = get drunk and (hopefully, because you're a wanker) get laid.

― elise, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

itÂ´s just a thing for drunk and stupid guys dressed up in stupid outfits looking for the girl with the shortest skirt and listening to stupid "retro" songs

You may well have just described every 'mainstream' nightclub in the world.

― Ray M, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

..and even many of the underground ones, now that 'underground' is mainstream. I mean, hell, all this electroclash etc... is only here because people who hate techno and house wanted to take the nightclubs back, so they wouldn't feel so left out of the superculture. it's a good idea, but the result is a bunch of non-dj "DJ's" with their older brother's records playing and 'mixing' shite music that most people think they are nostalgic for. This is 2000 and f***ing 2 people, do you still have to sing along? keep your crap rock out of my danceclub!

― guy jones, Friday, 15 November 2002 21:46 (twenty-three years ago)

You got your crap rock in my danceclub! You got your danceclub in my crap rock! Mmmmmmmmmm...

― Aaron W, Friday, 15 November 2002 22:23 (twenty-three years ago)

ray m is otm here. how, apart from the dress code gimmick, is schooldisco different from any other club in small/big/commuter/former-industrial/suburban town in the country?the differenence is: school disco is genuinely popular, electroclash is only popular in the pitiable minds of sleazenation and chums.

― ambrose (ambrose), Saturday, 16 November 2002 00:51 (twenty-three years ago)

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