is "tv on the radio" the only current "rock" act doing "new" things while still maintaining recognizable "songs" and "singing"?

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radioheads doesnt count (h8 them)

Poll Results

Option	Votes
MAYBE GO FUCK YRSELF	37
NO	15
YES	3

― ice cr?m, Friday, 23 October 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

"gay"

― legit 40 (Lamp), Friday, 23 October 2009 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

""new""

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 23 October 2009 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

This is going to turn into Radiohead vs TVOTR

― His skin is eroding. His suckers have divots. (chap), Friday, 23 October 2009 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

im serious abt this question btw - im going to take a run and i want some good answers by the time i get back

― ice cr?m, Friday, 23 October 2009 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

radiohead is NOT allowed here

― ice cr?m, Friday, 23 October 2009 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

srsly, what do they do that's new (or "new")?

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 23 October 2009 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

animal collective does this

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 October 2009 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

the Beatles rock band does this

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 October 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

I like TVOTR and everything but "new" is a red herring as a barometer of quality.

also they sound like Peter Gabriel.

― Jesus, the Czar of Czars (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 October 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

what peter gabriel do you recommend

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 October 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

all of it...?

― Jesus, the Czar of Czars (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 October 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

srsly, what do they do that's ~~new~~ singing (or "~~new~~ singing")?

― a wicked 60s beat poop combo (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 23 October 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

"all hour cymbals" he means

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 23 October 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

just start w/ first album and go from there?

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 October 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

(I'm 100% serious about the Peter Gabriel comparison btw - lots of similar weirdo dystopian lyrics and vocal hooks matched against chugging synths with rhythms lifted from r&b, tribal rhythms, funk, etc.)

― Jesus, the Czar of Czars (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

i have written some recognizable "songs" with "singing" that are "rock" and "new"; i sing them in the bathtub

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

and NO YOU CAN'T HEAR THEM, THEY ARE PRIVATE

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

the first four, I guess. can't go wrong with this one

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/57/Pg32.jpg/200px-Pg32.jpg

x-post

― Jesus, the Czar of Czars (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

"funk"

― Mr. Que, Friday, 23 October 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

only jonathan demme knows the answer to this

― velko, Friday, 23 October 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bath-holiday-cottage.co.uk/Images/BATH%20MUSIC%20FESTIVAL.jpg

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

damn peter gabriel rote some jams its true

― legit 40 (Lamp), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

he also wore a flowerhead

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

who hasnt in this day and age? who hasnt?

― legit 40 (Lamp), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

thom yorke

― Mr. Que, Friday, 23 October 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

there are plenty of pater gabriel threads

― cutty, Friday, 23 October 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

"threads"

― Mr. Que, Friday, 23 October 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

if thom yorke were a flower he'd be a nosegay

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

"peter" gabriel

― cutty, Friday, 23 October 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

otm

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

I saw thom yorke dance a few weeks ago

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

peter "gay"briel

― legit 40 (Lamp), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

tv on the gaydio

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

gaydiohead

― Mr. Que, Friday, 23 October 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

i love you but i've chosen gayness

― Mr. Que, Friday, 23 October 2009 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

thom yorke -> york peppermint patty -> peppermint patty from the peanuts cartoon -> lesbian -> gay

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

Liars? Then again, Drum's Not Dead isn't really a rock record.

― kshighway1, Friday, 23 October 2009 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

kshighgay1

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

yorke is gay bacon? xp

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

no, its a "rock" record dummy

― legit 40 (Lamp), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

gay vampire gay weekend

― Mr. Que, Friday, 23 October 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

Good thread. I'm out.

― kshighway1, Friday, 23 October 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

of the closet

― velko, Friday, 23 October 2009 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

kshighway1=hershey highway

― Mr. Que, Friday, 23 October 2009 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

ksguyway1

― legit 40 (Lamp), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

kshighheybum

― legit 40 (Lamp), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

pretty fly for a kshighway1

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

kshighway1 -> "life is a highway" -> tom cochrane -> cock -> gay

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

6 degrees of fageration

― legit 40 (Lamp), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

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tv on the radio in the shower

― Mr. Que, Friday, 23 October 2009 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

"songs"

― am0n, Friday, 23 October 2009 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

you know like on one of those waterproof units listing to regis and kelly

― ice cr?m, Friday, 23 October 2009 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

tv on the radio in the shower on regis and kelly

― Mr. Que, Friday, 23 October 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

why are we even talking about TVOTR SO NOT RELEVANT RITE NOW

― cutty, Friday, 23 October 2009 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

"RELEVANT"

― cutty, Friday, 23 October 2009 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

iyo what is "relevant" rite now cuts

― ice cr?m, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

healthy eating

― Bobby Wo (max), Friday, 23 October 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

"RITE"

― Mr. Que, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

TEH "XX" LOL

― cutty, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

I keep seeing the word ducktails typed out so maybe that is relevant

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 October 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

honestly tho wild beasts is many an honest answer to this q?

― cutty, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

maybe not many

― cutty, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

btw shakey, I bought the first four peter gabriel albums on my lunch break

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 October 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

cutty would you like to start a band with me called Sardines

― Mr. Que, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

start with III and security re: pedro gabrielle

― cutty, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

basically bought the entire used peter gabriel section

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 October 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

k will do

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 October 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

cool will check out wild beasts - which release do u recommend

― ice cr?m, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

"two dancers" the new one

― cutty, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

or watch live show i posted on the wild beasts thread

― cutty, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

check out brokeNCYDE and attack attack

― am0n, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

<3 attack attack - tbh that shit does fit the description its just not good as "music"

― ice cr?m, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

"good"

― am0n, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

"ice cr?m"

― Mr. Que, Friday, 23 October 2009 21:11 (fifteen years ago)

I think I posted about this before but every time I see attack attack I think about this one bollywood movie I saw as a kid where the bad guy was named Zatack, and in one scene he walked into a bar, put music in the jukebox, which played a disco version of the batman theme, he ripped his belt off, shouted "Zatack Attack!" and then started beating the shit out of everyone in the bar

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 October 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

put money in the jukebox

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 23 October 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.myteespot.com/images/thumbs/DSCF3251.jpg

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 23 October 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago)

zack morris and black label society

― hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 23 October 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

wtf.. why do "new" things matter? just write some songs that don't suck and produce them so that they sound their best.

― billstevejim, Saturday, 24 October 2009 03:17 (fifteen years ago)

It's a lot easier to be snobby about things being new because you can get hip points by going "This band is just ripping off [obscure band name I am so cool for knowing]." Not that I don't indulge in this particular sin occasionally.

― adamj, Saturday, 24 October 2009 03:51 (fifteen years ago)

are they still doing new things? i thought they stopped with that last album.

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 24 October 2009 10:01 (fifteen years ago)

not songs and or singing/rock
no age

not new
broken social scene, boris

never heard them
white denim, future of the left, dd/mm/yyyy, women and fucked up

k in that case disregard fucked up perhaps, because although the lastest album sort of transcends hardcore there still isn't much singing on it. i'd say of all those just check out white denim. the thing about tvotr is they've got all those cool soundscapes that sound really "wow never heard this before" which is maybe sort of a new thing in some ways. white denim do that a bit, but mostly their charm is making these mutated, crooked reformations of rock songs.

― samosa gibreel, Saturday, 24 October 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

― System, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago)

wtf.. why do "new" things matter?

Things that sound original (and good) are much more exciting to me. Definitely.

― His skin is eroding. His suckers have divots. (chap), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 00:13 (fifteen years ago)

in rock and roll the majority of what i like is derivative and unoriginal. somehow i'm more likely to listen to a band that takes an older preexisting style and adapts it to modern standards of songwriting or experimentation than one that sounds modern and recognizably original because they use new technologies or avoid genre association. but i think the way tvotr are most obviously original is much less interesting, a much more surface-level originality, than just the fact that they have a unique sense of melody and dude has a weird way of singing.

― samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 01:34 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think I can participate in this poll because the question is too hard for me to understand, but I don't want to feel left out because I now like TV On The Radio since they made an enjoyable album with catchy, propulsive songs. Also, they look great. If I feel like hurting myself I promised my counselor I would listen to hard music such as Henry Cow or Morton Feldman instead. BTW, xp the Animal Collective reference, I am one of those people who is completely baffled by the attention that Animal Collective album received, I find it deeply unpleasant and my fantasy is that they would be locked in a room with Tori Amos and Joan Wasser until they make an album that sounds like Rumours.

― Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 02:13 (fifteen years ago)

Last option, obv. :)

― Lord Byron Bay of Pigs (SeekAltRoute), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 06:04 (fifteen years ago)

radiohead is NOT allowed here

TVOTR's first album was called OK Calculator so you're screwed here. If you have a problem, take it up with the band.

― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 06:14 (fifteen years ago)

listen theres a surplus of threads for discussing that horrible band of cowards - just not here ok

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 06:23 (fifteen years ago)

I like Cave In 5xmore than Radiohead and 50xmore than TVOTR.

― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 07:56 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

― System, Thursday, 29 October 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago)

LOL

― Lord Byron Bay of Pigs (SeekAltRoute), Thursday, 29 October 2009 02:47 (fifteen years ago)

hahahaha

― the supposedly self-aware acoustic stylings of Joe Latte (kshighway1), Thursday, 29 October 2009 04:42 (fifteen years ago)

rip advanced chord changes

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 29 October 2009 04:43 (fifteen years ago)

the last YYYs album sounded like it was doing more 'new' things while still writing 'songs' and good melodies etc etc more than TVTOR are nowadays.

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 29 October 2009 09:10 (fifteen years ago)

new things for them doesn't necessarily mean new things

― cutty, Thursday, 29 October 2009 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

TVOTR's first album was called OK Calculator so you're screwed here.

I thought it was called OK Abacus. Maybe that was the demo.

― His skin is eroding. His suckers have divots. (chap), Thursday, 29 October 2009 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

yuk yuk

― cutty, Thursday, 29 October 2009 13:46 (fifteen years ago)

TV ON THE RADIO v RADIOHEAD

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

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