renaissance rap remix

countless money with diamonds that's buried in jerusalem

this is maybe my favorite rap song of the year

so slept on

gorillas in louis hats, the more the merrier

wayne verse is amazing tho

god body wise intelligence
smack niggas and wrestle with elephants

ya it's between busta and lil wayne for me

yeah dude, i have no idea where busta pulled that verse from

accidentally beatin you like gorillas playin

i love how weezy's verse starts off so effortless, he's almost reluctant to even be rapping. and then by the end he's just rapping his tuckus off.

rae's flow and style fits the track's vibe best for me, but busta does pull some competent unexpected phrases. All 4 are spittin some knowledge though. busta>chef>tip>weezy. weezy's just about young money and crotches again and again. he needs to progress some.

I'll be listeneing to this one while I'm assassinating fools in Assassin's Creed 2.

wow! this is amazing.

i knew youd dig this matt

weird that this is from this year, seems older. maybe i need to listen to it again but i was never really bowled over by it, figured it was just one of those tracks that people got excited about more for the combination of MCs than anything else (cf. "shine blockas," ha)

"shine blockas" > this imo

the fuck outta here

the MC list is dope but all turn in classic verses

i'm just glad that we kept up our policy of mentioning gucci mane on every single thread on ILM in 2009

btw i honesty am finding it hard to choose a favorite

yeah i might love shine blockas a bit more than this, but it's on like a fingernail's difference between two love elephants. i think i'm going to vote for weezy; apparently young money and crotches are still captivating to me.

well, better that than money and young crotches

btw is this NEW?? cuz i swear it's like they beamed in Midnight Marauders-era q-tip and da drought 3-era wayne or something...crazy how on point everyone is...

it's not new new but it's been out for about 9 months

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I had to go all Weezy fanboy and vote for Lil Wayne on this one. I love Rae's verse, and don't quite understand the massive love for Busta Rhymes verse (is the fact that he's usually so bad enough to make this great?). I just think Lil Wayne sounds really at home on this kind of beat, love his voice (off the auto-tune for the first time in a while over the last couple years) going all over the place, his 'middle america/genital area' line, and the part where he pretends not to play the game and almost not say Renaissance. Until 'No Ceilings' (no love so far on ilx, maybe i'll start a thread) I thought this was one of the best verses he's done for quite a while, and I wish he'd rap over more of these kind of laid back beats, I think it really suits him.

yeah...this is a totally average latter day busta verse. still keep listening to this track and wondering what the bfd is.

stickin out my tongue like an iguana lizard at you corny niggas

Wayne seems out of his league to me. Voted Busta. It's not just what he says, but how he says it. The production is annoying and week imo.

wfb > rae > tip > busta

The production is annoying and week imo.

agreed

love this part of rae's verse

Old Gold at the Golden Globes, my robe hitin the cement
Chef in the buildin, yep and he been

yep and he bent*

fucking lyrics sites

man ya'll are either crazy or not paying enough attention. all four verses are so loaded with great lines you'd think it would sound overwrought, but instead it comes off as seemingly effortless.

otm

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can this be purchased anywhere?

physically? i doubt it

I don't know enough about rap to understand why that would be the case - are there a lot of clearly-better-than-huge-chunks-of-radio-hit singles that never get out past mixtapes and Twitter-leaks and stuff? And why?

(oh - how about digitally?)

i dont wanna get too "lol u old" or anything but why would you want to buy this digitally?

Oh, I am old, son. I saw the Geto Boys when you were in short pants. I want it for my iPod songplaying box!

in the case of stuff like this, lots of people take a song from an album after it's out and do a posse cut remix that's strictly a promo/leak thing and has no real venue on a retail release (unless it's a popular album and the label wants a 'deluxe' edition or something). and at this point there's virtually no relationship between the quality of material and whether it's on an album or just a black market thing.

(and I have insane, elaborate, OCD-ish self-imposed bitrate standards)

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the thing that interests me is about tracks like this is that, like, Wayne insists he charged some huge fee (75k i think?) for every guest verse, no exceptions -- does that mean Universal or Q-Tip himself or someone actually came out of pocket for that to make this track that just went all over the internet and probably didn't bring in a dime of actual profit?

It's just hard for me to understand how exactly, say, Lil Wayne benefits from his best shit being stuff that only a select group of listeners ever hears.

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More stupid questions: Is this stuff emailed around, or are all these guys in a studio together? (forgive me if I'm being really naive)

he benefits because there's plenty of people to buy his shit regardless of quality - even if this is one of his better recent verses it's not like he's missing out on a $$ opportunity when he's still on every official mainstream rap & r&b remix.

no way in hell they were all in the studio together

the results of this poll are in the exact same order as i would've ranked them. except q tip > raekwon rather than tied.

night of the livin mc's/the weak ones fled

i still think this song is an absolute 10/10 classic

it's nice that the only person who remembers its existence thinks that

ha i feel really good about placing this super high on my P&J ballot from that year

together we the chi-lites to twists of the o'jays

ever since i made it out of middle america/everyone wanna be in my genital area

may be the last classic weezy line

dope busta proto-grocery bag

animal rap, wildlife/stabbin you in the back wild nice ahhhh

if i was a rapper my ad-lib would be a clip of susie from curb after taking a sip from her drink: "ts-ahhh"