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Listening to the new Headless Chicken comp, "chickenshits". The most un-Nun of all the Nun bands (cf "abused technology" etc) yet the only FN band with a #1 single. With NZ's music-myth-history, the problem of a band that doesn't sound like anything/anybody else is they can't really be ascribed to a movement or a sound because they, well, seemed to come from nowhere & return from whence they came - can't think of any NZ bands that sound like them or claim a relationship with etc. A real shame "George" or "Cruise Control" didn't make the APRA top 30 list etc (does anyone know the full list? Duane?)

Rip It Up seemed to nail Matthews lyrix - "(Matthews) 'cinematic' lyrical technique, a gallery of mostly grotesque characters, lurching up to leer at the camera/listener, before turning back to resume their tasks at hand . . . It's a carnival and a house of horrors, claustrophobic, life, maybe art . . ." - if Peter Jackson's pre-Frighteners movies were liberally sprinkled with ground Lynch & turned into music, I think they'd sound like the Chickens.
& "gaskrankinstation" & the Skeptics "Affco" shed light on the . . . visceral crippled-industrial blue-collar psychic underbelly of New Zealand, or whatever - not many NZ artists tend to venture into that sort of territory, which is rather surprising considering it's not exactly uncommon trope in prose/poetry/painting & so on.

(heh, @themoment they have become MY NEW FAVOURITE BAND etc)

Ess Kay, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

(talk about anything to do with the Headless Chickens here, except perhaps the cover of "Souper Trouper" which has already been discussed fairly thoroughly (ie mentioned twice) on this board)

Ess Kay, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was about to mention the Skeptics but you already did. I could chuck in Head Like A Hole and that band that did that 'Breakdown Town' song as well for sounds that weren't all that 'Flying Nun' - actually, it sort of reveals that Flying Nun probably were mining a very particular sound. maybe the landscape is too dominant to suggest a genuine industrial feel

Andrew, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I went to see 'Once Were Warriors' in Auckland with the Headless Chickens singer a while ago. Just before the film started, I turned to her and said, "I do hope this movie isn't violent. I really don't like violent movies".

She just looked at me...

Jerry, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

(does anyone know the full list? Duane?)
ha ha why wd anyone imagine I know that type of thing?

unknown or illegal user, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm bidding on a copy of "Gaskrankinstation" right now.. damn classic stuff. I prefer the stuff with the dude on it to the later, far poppier records.

electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Somebody has to arrange for them to play here: http://www.miketheheadlesschicken.org/

Dave Beckhouse, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

hard to believe he was once in this kind of punishment

keith, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ha, the remix disc is GREBT - the old sk00l Eskimos in Egypt mix of Cruise Control is possibly the lushest+fluffiest they've sounded (& Aussie chart action!) (but their dub of it is aural quicksand); & the Olly J hyperdanceyesque mix of "Juice" showed how contortionistic their sound could stretch - heard it was a minor club hit in England, & I'd maim to hear it played @ Bath St.
& the new mixes are pretty decent as well - the Greg Churchill mix of "gaskrankinstation" stalks like a greased zombie - as a friend said, "the beat doesn't quite fit the song which doesn't quite fit the lyrics . . . it's rather good, but unnerving", Dick Johnson luvvs up & accelerates the uglysex of "George" (but only so far), & his "Expecting to Fly" vision gets the (birthday) party started etc.

Ess Kay, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

(ha ha, the dirty truth/secret-shame re:NZ musical heritage/curatorship - SHIHAD(!) are the only living descendents of the Skeptics (& actually, bits of the Blue Light Disco EP & The General Electric were Chickensy ("Sport & Religion", "Spacing", "Wait and See"), + Killjoy's sense of space/place in production . . .))

Ess Kay, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

A real shame "George" or "Cruise Control" didn't make the APRA top 30 list

fiona mcdonald was the worst thing that happened to that band. err and there is a reason that head like a hole don't sound FN. its cos they aren't.

di, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jah, HLAH were Wildside troopaz (hmmmn, gotta listen to Future Stupid). A lot of North Island stuff (well, south of Auckland anyway) has that dirty, abandoned lot/empty train station feel to it.

the APRA comment was mild surprise that the poppier-HC stuff didn't make the cut, while, say, Fur Patrol's "Lydia" did. The whole list is vaguely bollox anyway re:no Clean etc, so blah.
(& Johnny Pierce's suicide was probably a worse thing that Fiona McDonald joining the Chickens)

Ess Kay, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

hehehe Fur Patrol hehehe my god they're rubbish

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

there's more to NZ music than Flying Nun - they have excellent Black Metal, and there's great hip-hop act: Dark Tower. The chooks din't sound particularly FN,(despite being on the label) which lead me to point to head like a hole...

Actually, i've heard little from FN that inspred me for some time now. i'll be eager to here this chickenshits thingy. Gaskrankin station rips.

Andrew, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

(ha ha, the dirty truth/secret-shame re:NZ musical heritage/curatorship - SHIHAD(!) are the only living descendents of the Skeptics

I really disagree with this but I can't summon a response right now but I just couldn't let tthat stand in the meanwhile.

halo halo, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

does "rips" mean it's good?
I really hate that song. I think it is where they first started to go so downhill.

halo halo, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

> A real shame "George" or "Cruise Control" didn't make the APRA top 30 list etc (does anyone know the full list? Duane?)

1. Nature, Wayne Mason (Fourmyula, 1969) 2. Don't Dream It's Over, Neil Finn (Crowded House, 1987) 3. Loyal, Dave Dobbyn (1988) 4. Counting The Beat, Phil Judd/Mark Hough/Wayne Stevens (The Swingers, 1981)  5. Six Months In A Leaky Boat, Tim Finn (Split Enz, 1982) 6. Sway, Bic Runga (1997) 7. Slice Of Heaven, Dave Dobbyn (Dave Dobbyn with Herbs, 1986) 8. Victoria, Jordan Luck (Dance Exponents, 1982) 9. She Speeds, Shayne Carter (StraitjacketFits, 1987) 10. April Sun In Cuba, Paul Hewson/Marc Hunter (Dragon, 1978) 11. I Got You, Neil Finn (Split Enz, 1980) 12. Whaling, Dave Dobbyn (DD Smash, 1984) 13. Not Given Lightly, Chris Knox (1990) 14. Pink Frost, Martin Phillipps (The Chills, 1984) 15. Jesus I Was Evil, Darcy Clay (1997) 16. Weather With You, Tim Finn/Neil Finn (Crowded House, 1991) 17. Blue Smoke, Ruru Karaitiana (Pixie Williams & Ruru Karaitiana Quartet, 1949) 18. Dance All Around the World, Corben Simpson/Geoff Murphy (Blerta, 1972) 19. Lydia, Julia Deans (Fur Patrol, 2000) 20. Blue Lady, Graham Brazier (Hello Sailor, 1977) 21. Drive, Bic Runga (1996) 22. Chains, Che Fu/DLT/Angus McNaughton/Kevin Rangihuna (1996) 23. Dominion Rd, Don McGlashan (Muttonbirds, 1993) 24. Glad I'm Not a Kennedy, Shona Laing (1986) 25. I Hope I Never, Tim Finn (Split Enz, 1980) 26. Tears, Fane Flaws/Arthur Baysting (Crocodiles, 1980) 27. Be Mine Tonight, Dave Dobbyn/Ian Morris (Th'Dudes, 1978) 28. I See Red, Tim Finn (Split Enz, 1979) 29. Beside You, Dave Dobbyn (1998) 30. Home Again, Karl Kippenberger/Tom Larkin/Phil Knight/ Jon Toogood (Shihad,1997)

> (ha ha, the dirty truth/secret-shame re:NZ musical heritage/curatorship - SHIHAD(!) are the only living descendents of the Skeptics

I've heard a few HDU tracks that remind me of the Skeptics.

And while a lot of quality NZ hip-hop has been released over the past few years (P-Money, DLT, Dam Native), Dark Tower is really poor I think. Great concept, great ideas, but just lacking the skills to make it work.

Underclocked, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Shit, sorry abt the formatting mess. Try that again:

1. Nature, Wayne Mason (Fourmyula, 1969)
2. Don't Dream It's Over, Neil Finn (Crowded House, 1987)
3. Loyal, Dave Dobbyn (1988)
4. Counting The Beat, Phil Judd/Mark Hough/Wayne Stevens (The Swingers, 1981)
5. Six Months In A Leaky Boat, Tim Finn (Split Enz, 1982)
6. Sway, Bic Runga (1997)
7. Slice Of Heaven, Dave Dobbyn (Dave Dobbyn with Herbs, 1986)
8. Victoria, Jordan Luck (Dance Exponents, 1982)
9. She Speeds, Shayne Carter (StraitjacketFits, 1987)
10. April Sun In Cuba, Paul Hewson/Marc Hunter (Dragon, 1978)
11. I Got You, Neil Finn (Split Enz, 1980)
12. Whaling, Dave Dobbyn (DD Smash, 1984)
13. Not Given Lightly, Chris Knox (1990)
14. Pink Frost, Martin Phillipps (The Chills, 1984)
15. Jesus I Was Evil, Darcy Clay (1997)
16. Weather With You, Tim Finn/Neil Finn (Crowded House, 1991)
17. Blue Smoke, Ruru Karaitiana (Pixie Williams & Ruru Karaitiana Quartet, 1949)
18. Dance All Around the World, Corben Simpson/Geoff Murphy (Blerta, 1972)
19. Lydia, Julia Deans (Fur Patrol, 2000)
20. Blue Lady, Graham Brazier (Hello Sailor, 1977)
21. Drive, Bic Runga (1996)
22. Chains, Che Fu/DLT/Angus McNaughton/Kevin Rangihuna (1996)
23. Dominion Rd, Don McGlashan (Muttonbirds, 1993)
24. Glad I'm Not a Kennedy, Shona Laing (1986)
25. I Hope I Never, Tim Finn (Split Enz, 1980)
26. Tears, Fane Flaws/Arthur Baysting (Crocodiles, 1980)
27. Be Mine Tonight, Dave Dobbyn/Ian Morris (Th'Dudes, 1978)
28. I See Red, Tim Finn (Split Enz, 1979)
29. Beside You, Dave Dobbyn (1998)
30. Home Again, Karl Kippenberger/Tom Larkin/Phil Knight/ Jon Toogood (Shihad,1997)

Underclocked, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

six years pass...

Donde esta la pollo? Reformed and playing Homebake 2008 in Sydney!

SeekAltRoute, Thursday, 21 August 2008 06:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Sold out in ten minutes.

energy flash gordon, Friday, 22 August 2008 00:47 (fifteen years ago) link

"totalling dad's car" = awesome song.

and up there with "the wheel" by dead c as one of the greatest and most un-flying nun sounding things f.n. ever released...

but i do not know the later stuff, need to track it down.

Mike McGooney-gal, Friday, 22 August 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Really liked the one album I heard by these guys around '86 or so (wish I still had it), but the Flyin Nun album (well, EP actually) that I thought was even weirder (and less Flying Nun like) at the time was the one by the Puddle (which I reviewed in the Village Voice, and put in my year-end top ten, but stupidly also got rid of during some moving purge in the '90s.) Anybody remember them? Anybody have any idea whatever happened to them? How hard is their EP to find two decades later? Etc...

xhuxk, Friday, 22 August 2008 02:21 (fifteen years ago) link

hey chuck--

yeah the puddle is def. pretty un-fn-like, and i'd totally forgotten about them, actually.

somehow i think they might have been connected to the renderers (possibly the least xpressway-ish xp. act)? or maybe not.

but they have a myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/thepuddlenz

and a new record:
http://www.insanitywetrust.com/Puddle.htm

seems like a lot of nz acts are getting back together of late. hidey ho.

Mike McGooney-gal, Friday, 22 August 2008 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i think their album was 'into the moon'? it's here on cd for under $20, though with shipping it might be a little pricey since they're overseas...

http://www.gemm.com/item/PUDDLE/INTO--THE--MOON/GML1417867025/

Mike McGooney-gal, Friday, 22 August 2008 02:54 (fifteen years ago) link

the puddle love is always a bit of a mystery. is it because he's inherently creepy? but then i love Mink and he's a driving force there but that's probably down to demarnia lloyd and genevieve mclean. allegedly mink are extant, no idea if anything is forthcoming. the puddle release excellent singles and terrible albums. into the moon and pop lib are always lauded, so mediocre.

keythkeyth, Friday, 22 August 2008 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Pop Lib is the one I liked (and the only one I ever heard.) Here's what I said I liked about it in a Voice review at the time: "Two women and four men playing borrowed instruments they haven't learned yet. The sextet's got a bona fide kidlike kidding quality, and seems happy just to be speaking through their incompetence to make us understand why love gets them twisted. Mistakes don't matter, and the soundmix is horrible (therefore awesome) -- three times in the first track there's this dense electronic buzz that sounds like a fan accidentally switched on, or a fuse blew; nowhere are the players and/or vocals entirely in sync. Lindsay Maitland honks French horn like Lora Logic blew sax, just exhaling every which way 'til a sound comes out that means something to him. Everything's carried along on a simple drum-tap and a two-note bassline or Casiotone-riff; George Henderson's rhythm guitar, apparently untuned, computes Mobius-strip equations. But there's shape and structure, drifting off like supernal marshmallows, tensing up with microcosmic repetition, erupting into absolute, uncontrolled wrath." (Whatever the heck all that means. I went on to compare the song "Spaceship #9" to Amon Duul and "Junk", to the Velvet Undeground's "Heroin" by way of "My Girl," which are quoted in its lyrics.)

Weirdly, here's what I write earlier in the piece: "This was all set to be a review of Headless Chickens, by New Zealanders of the same name: trumped-up gargoyle-gurgle, solidly conistent, like if the Buttholes' Another Man's Sac was 'pop' instead of 'rock.'" I say it was one of my most-played albums of 1987, but I apparently got fed up by what hit me as "willful weirdness." I never explain what made their weirdness seem so willful.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link


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