dark ambient/ambient black metal/black ambient thread for recommendations and discussion

Lustmord - The Place Where the Black Stars Hang
Vinterriket - Lichtschleier
Xasthur - Subliminal Genocide
Burzum (complete)

That is some stuff I like. I'm used to listening to more brutal kinds of stuff, so I'm something of a n00b with the ambient biz. Help me to help myself.

Darkspace - all of it
Paysage D'Hiver - start with Kristall und Isa, then Winterkalte
Velvet Cacoon - start with Genevieve
Striborg - all of it

I'm used to listening to more brutal kinds of stuff

same here

But, if I was to pick just one . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtXINRuNU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgaAnztAq0o

That's nice, I like that. And thanks for your recommendations. xpost

The Striborg DVD is intense - mostly B/W footage of trees, but you get this sensation that your brain is running out of your ears after a few minutes.

bloody panda isn't really ambient but are slept-on doom drone you should check out

check out lurker of chalice - ambient thing from leviathan. plus early leviathan (tenth sub-level of suicide etc) has some of the vibe of xasthur circa nocturnal poisoning - ie really damn cool

Thanks man, I've actually been listening to a lot of Leviathan today (catching up on an old recommendation). Will look up Lurker of Challice though, too. Thanks!

welcome. also nortt - haven't heard everything but he did an excellent split w xasthur a while back - hybrid of funereal doom and depressive bm. recent galgenfrist is especially minimal/ambient

The new Worm Ouroboros album is beautiful, beautiful stuff.
http://www.myspace.com/wormouroboros

Can't go wrong with Amber Asylum for that matter, either.

And does Bohren & der Club of Gore qualify? They're always great.

Oh, and that one Lurker of Chalice album is better than any Leviathan record.

Awesome, I'm excited to check that out.

Loving Striborg and Lurker of Chalice fwiw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZCTxFW68j8

Oh, and I should have said Abruptum is one of my favorite bands ever.

btw thanks for this thread, going to listen to all this

http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/01/peter-frohmander-5-lps.html

This is maybe not quite the same thing becos the guy is coming out of Krautrock but Musik aus dem Schattenreich, which is the only one on here I know at the moment, has some really intense proto-Black Metal ambience going on and definitely is worth listening to I think.

'bloody panda' = lol band name

home from party and listening to lurker and it is awesome except i also think my house is haunted

'bloody panda' = lol band name

You won't exactly be lolling when you hear it...they're an incredibly imposing band on record.

:o

you might be loling around on the ground in pain.

It's always sounded like a British comedy sketch show catchphrase to me

Oh, and that one Lurker of Chalice album is better than any Leviathan record.

Can't quite get behind this cos I do love me some Massive Conspioracy Against All Life but it is good - there are some bits that sound like Stars of The Lid so yeah.

Do Gnaw Their Tongues qualify for this?

you might be loling around on the ground in pain

will test this

in addition to a bunch of stuff mentioned already, these two albums are classic go-tos for me when i'm in the mood for this type of stuff

James Plotkin & Mick Harris - Collapse
James Plotkin & Mark Spybey - A Peripheral Blur (less 'dark' than Collapse is)

Pyramids with Nadja: http://hydraheadlines.blogspot.com/2009/08/pyramids-with-nadja-full-length.html

i like the limited amount of this kind of stuff i've heard (xasthur was my introduction to it, i guess). downloaded lurker of chalice and a velvet cacoon album (northsuite) becz of this thread, looking forward to listening to them. (also, velvet cacoon is funny to read about. pranksters.)

All the provocations Velvet Cacoon have indulged in over the years tend to distract from their music, which is just incredible. Enormous, hypnotic textures. It is true ambient music, though, and you need to give it time to penetrate - recommend listening in the dark, or while reading.

Had them on the iPod while walking through a rainstorm today, which was just perfect.

always get bottled down for this but velvet cacoon is super boring even genevieve - wonderful sound, totally luxurious, boring

Hey, it's the sort of thing that's never going to work for everyone!

so far i like velvet cacoon. going to give them the full headphone treatment later. i find i really enjoy this kind of stuff when i'm tense or stressed out, it sort of just literally and figuratively drowns out everything else. you can sink into it. (true of lots of kinds of music, obviously, but the only other thing that works as well for me in those mindstates is various kinds of free jazz or skronk.)

. . but it sounds like it's working for you!

As for boring, all I can say is that I've been listening Velvet Cacoon on a regular basis for a couple of years or more, without ever tiring of what they do. It is an ambient sound - it doesn't occupy the centre of your attention and tell you a story. The experience is nearer to watching the sea.

yeah. that's why i think i find it relaxing. it's a little like those new-age sounds-of-nature cds -- "a summer meadow in a rainstorm" -- except for people who like LOUD things.

omg booming thread

but yeah DARKSPACE, especially Darkspace III, that album is definitive

never listened to darkspace despite years of big ups from many - rectification time

Recently loving:

Altar of Plagues - White Tomb

Neige et Noirceur - Philosophie des Arts Occultes

Listening at this very moment to:

Feigur - I, Pestilence

Highly recommend the top two, and enjoying the third a lot. (Though I don't know if they qualify as ambient black metal, for the purposes of this conversation. If I'm mislabeling any of these acts, I apologize.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3V7umWh374

The best thing I've bought this year was this CD by Sorc'henn:

http://www.discogs.com/Sorchenn-Faro-Death-Of-The-Island-Sheeps/release/1516895

I don't know if this counts - I think it probably does? - but I'd love to hear about anything else that sounds like this.

Y'all are awesome btw. I am listening to all this ambient shitz

O my brothers and sisters, you must behold the majesty that men call Les Legions Noire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmFsPZQuEwQ

See also Moevot and Aakon Keetreh

Utech Records S/D

Ding ding ding

borarp!

on the ambient kick, I'd appreciate feedback from anyone who cares to give this a listen:

http://www.last.fm/music/Automating/_/Transubservience

This Nihil records are my jam

And this band Culted is gross and rad too

My fall listening has been heavily tilted towards the dark and drony. Some of this may be more "noise" than "dark ambient," but whatever, I think it all fits the mood pretty well:

Emeralds, What Happened (No Fun)
Black To Comm, Alphabet 1968 (Type)
Demdike Stare, Symbiosis (Modern Love)
Ethernet, 144 Pulsations of Light (Kranky)
Elm, Nemcatacoa (Digitalis)
Ben Frost, By the Throat (Bedroom Industries)
Pixel, The Drive (Raster Noton)

and the winner of them all is probably Kevin Drumm's Imperial Horizon (Hospital Productions), which comes the closest of any record I can think of to Folke Rabe's phenomenal What?? from, I believe, 1967, reissued a few years back on Drag City...

dark ages - a chronicle of the plague
dark ages - twilight of europe

same guy from drudkh, excellent stuff

also halo manash - am kha astrie

the 3 disc thomas koner reissue that came out this year is so sick. coming from more of an industrial/techno background than much of the stuff in this thread, but it's about as dark and heavy as music gets

http://www.discogs.com/Thomas-Köner-Nunatak-Teimo-Permafrost/release/2403270

not sure what happened to the link there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoWe2kQuYR8

can anyone give me a "recommended if you like halo manash"?

maybe not totally what thread's about but Amber Asylum, esp the one from last year (?) on Profound Lore, has been doing it for me lately

The last WOLD album is some seriously underrated shit.

thanks for the Dark Ages recommendation, zorn, I'm a big Drudkh / Hate Forest fan but hadn't heard about this...

lustre - a glimpse of glory

man i saw amber asylum @ a fest in SF a couple months ago, and they were not so good

actually they were really bad. kind of a lot of vocals to be considered "dark ambient" i'd say!

There's a Sydney band called Nazxul who are on this tip, I like them. Theyre kind of almost a black metal Cocteau Twins, in a sense (musically obv, not vocally, haw)

...mind you, Liz Fraser hollering over some Burzum would make my day.

yeah i like nazxul, and i saw them this summer. they were great

There's a Sydney band called Nazxul who are on this tip, I like them.

Black Seed is so great. Love these dudes. Well, not the new one as much.

someone recommended bands called amethystium and gargula valzer to me on this tip
turns out gargula valzer is fuckin goth rock and amethystium is the corniest of new age featuring reverb-y timbales, etc
do not want and you are not my friend anymore!

lol

:-)

it is lollably exhausting that being into this kind of music means you have to put up with stuff like this:

"Halo Manash is an entity drawing its life-force from beyond all limitations. It is a means through which we communicate, a vehicle for bridging the worlds of being and non-being, for journeying to the depths and heights. It is a call – a symbol ever-present and thus not bound by limits of time and space."

it makes me laugh.

yeah, that was the reason for the "lol" - like i've seen/heard so many bands that describe themselves as being in these genres that are just horrible, i approach just about everything that describes itself thus with a lot of skepticism

thats like the steve roach reviews on amg

Steve Roach -- the endlessly meditative thread

It's kind of amazing that several people who would be willing to say stuff like that all managed to find each other though, right? Hooray internet.

xxp

i mean i realize that's part of it and part of the "mood" and part of what i like about it, but it's hard not to roll your eyes when someone describes their own album as a tripartite celestial crown\

ps listen to steve roach

today, working my way through all the recommendations on this thread. seriously y'all look up dark ages (especially) and halo manash though. i'd be interested to hear what you think of them

i'm glad that people are out there that can present that super-over-serious front, because it's so far from something i could ever do.

i have no problem with "super-over-serious" - when it is in reference to music that is actually complex and interesting and good

right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCavkcOfhxo

well, i agree except for "complex"

i also accept a bit more of this kind of thing from people with english as their second, third or fourth language who still insist on writing their descriptions in english. "maybe in finnish this sounds cooler"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vmRCLcEYEw

bookmarked

lol roxy sorry bout Amber Asylum talk, sometimes I'm goth and can't help it.

more on topic: the sometimes ambient Les Legion Noir stuff, YES. Some brief talk of it + youtubes here: http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=56813

feeeling Gnaw Their Tongues lately, if they count. Abruptum are alltime, of course. Nortt's "Ligfaerd" is pretty good

did this whole thread really happen without a single LULL recommendation? best dark ambient (lol) drone-stuffs that ive heard pretty much ever. start w/ dreamt abt dreaming or cold summer

amber asylum are great! but i guess they can go on

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listening to some raison d'etre (the empty hollow unfolds) with my doors open and the gusts of wind from the cold front blowing through and the crows outside are really working with it.

I'm also enjoying getting angry at the guy outside with a leaf blower for messing up my enjoyment of the random industrial noises issuing forth from my speakers

I literally cannot believe no one has mentioned New Risen Throne on this thread. for shame.

really loving a lot of Winterblood stuff YouTube has been feeding me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TabHxNM2Sg-

guess I really need to check out more “dark ambient”, think I’ve misjudged/underestimated the genre’s tonal/emotional range

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHfoCBw4lXs

that sounds great

Kammarheit are incredible