A POLL FOR ALL THE OTHERS: It's the Alternate 1970s Albums Poll on ILX — Voting Thread (Due by midnight GMT, January 3rd)

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We nominated them all here. We disqualified the 100 winners of the original 2004/05 poll that was held here. The object was to clear out the canonical albums from the 1970s, and make room for albums that could never make a typical Top 100 list. It doesn't mean those overly familiar albums aren't good, but they've already been voted on to death. Here is a poll for all the others.

INSTRUCTIONS

1) This is an email ballot. Send your vote in an email to this address: johnnyilxfever[at]gmail[dot]com. Put the text "ILX 1970s POLL" in your email title, so I know it's not spam.

2) Please include your ILX username to your email. This is to avoid vote rigging. If I start to get a lot of emails with no ILX username in them, I'll have to disqualify them.

3) You can vote for the maximum of 40 albums. You can choose either an ordered ballot or an unordered one. If you choose an ordered ballot, the points will be allotted like so:

1st place: 40 points
2nd place: 35 points
3rd place: 30 points
4th place: 25 points
5th place: 15 points
6-10th places: 12 points each
11-15th places: 9 points each
16-20th places: 6 points each
21-25th places: 5 points each
26-35th places: 3 points each
36-40th places: 1 point each

If you send an unordered ballot, the albums on the list will all get 10 points each. Thus, if you vote for 40 albums, you have the total amount of 400 points to allot. If you want to send an ordered ballot, please number the album list. An unnumbered list will be automatically interpreted as an unordered ballot.

4) You may vote for less than 40 albums, but the points will still be alloted according to the system above. For example, if you send an unordered ballot with 20 albums, they will all get 10 points, not 20.

5) You may only vote for the albums on the nomination list. Any votes for albums that are not on the list will be ignored.

6) The voting time ends on Sunday, January 3rd, at midnight GMT. Any ballots sent after that will not be counted.

7) If there's a tie between albums, the total number of votes an album has received will be the tiebreaker. If it's still a tie, the number of #1 votes will be the second tiebreaker.

(*I borrwed the wording/scoring system from Tuomas's '80s poll almost verbatim.)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 01:18 (fifteen years ago)

HERE IS THE LIST. 1,258 CHOICES: http://home.earthlink.net/~pauletc/svnts.htm

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 01:23 (fifteen years ago)

My first run through cut it to 145. That's not going to work, is it?

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 01:58 (fifteen years ago)

OK, sent mine.

WmC, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 02:31 (fifteen years ago)

sent!

an error has occurred (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 02:48 (fifteen years ago)

Phew! Two ballots in and three albums in common between them. This poll's gonna be weird :)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 02:48 (fifteen years ago)

good, the weirder the better

WmC, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 02:58 (fifteen years ago)

J Fever, for some reason my reply email to you isn't sending, but I've counted my ballot 3 times now and get 40 each time. I'm not sure where the gaps are, but if there are a few maybe it's destiny. :)

big darn deal (Z S), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 03:07 (fifteen years ago)

You missed #14 and #15 in your numbering.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

btw everyone, I'll send you a confirmation email once I've absorbed your votes into the count.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 03:20 (fifteen years ago)

That's weird, in my sent folder it shows #14 and #15...oh well.

I'll resend my #14 and 15, if it's not too late.

big darn deal (Z S), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 03:26 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry, but if it's easy to add missing items to that list, could you add in that Fairouz Oriental Evening album? If it's not easy, don't worry about it, obviously.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 03:52 (fifteen years ago)

ZS, 15 is still getting cut off for some reason (does it have weird characters?). I got 14 though. xp

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 03:53 (fifteen years ago)

You can vote for Oriental Evening if you'd like, because I remember it being mentioned in the nominations thread. I couldn't find anything to verify a release date at the time, so I didn't add it. I just now found something that says 1971, though. xp

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 03:56 (fifteen years ago)

ZS, I looked at the raw email data and got the album. Weird, dunno why it didn't show up normally. It's added now, though. xxxp

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:07 (fifteen years ago)

Brown, James - The Payback is on there twice. Just want to make sure it's not in two slots on your spreadsheet.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:34 (fifteen years ago)

Thanks for noticing. Fixed it.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:38 (fifteen years ago)

Erk, I went through the nomination list marking the ones I definitely want to vote for, the ones I like but need to listen to again, and the ones I'm sure I'd like but have never heard (yeah, like I'd ever get round to that during the voting period), and the first group alone came to 34. Feeling pretty bad for the second group now cz I'm sure there are way more than 6 in it I'd like to vote for.

PS thanks for your hard work, Johnny.

brett favre vs bernard fevre, fite (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 10:13 (fifteen years ago)

Amazing list - so far I've only found one record that i wish was there that isn't (Shoot out the Lights), but that's made up for by finding things I neer expected - Keith Cross and Pete Ross! Slapp Happy! Emitt Rhodes! Good work all round.

sonofstan, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:37 (fifteen years ago)

"Shoot Out the Lights" is from the 80s

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:39 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, it was nominated in the 80s poll we just had.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

i love this idea btw. will do my ballot later.

adorable cheese inscription (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

Btw, I think Fela is gonna suffer heavily from vote splitting, since most of his 70s albums sound kinda samey, though they're still universally good. I suspect my favourite album by him (Afrodisiac and He Miss Road) are not necessary the biggest favourites of other Fela fans. But I hope Zombie at least will make it.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

He Miss Road will probably be the one and only Fela on my final ballot.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

Cool! I just love the sound on that album, I think it was produced by someone else than other Fela albums?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

Btw, I've noticed a few typos in the nomination list:

* The jazz drummer and bandleader is called Idris Muhammad, not Idris Muhammed.

* The Beth Carvalho album is called "Pandeiro e Viola", not "Pandiero e Viola".

* The Meters album is called "Fire on the Bayou", not "Fire in the Bayou".

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

"Shoot Out the Lights" is from the 80s

*shoots out own lights*

Of course it is - I just always think of it as the final one in that great run from 'Bright Lights....' conveniently forgetting Sunnyvista and er, the other not very good one.....

sonofstan, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

Now I'm starting to see all these omissions. Fleetwood Mac Kiln House, and even worse, Goat's Head Soup.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

Typos fixed.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

Gonna try and nail this fucker tonight

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

Oh man, "Carnival in Babylon" is in it and "Wolf City isn't, you people are crazy

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

why didn't you nominate it then?

WmC, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

Too lazy tbh

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

crazy >>>> lazy

WmC, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

Yes but not as much hard work

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

Or vice versa... oh fuck it

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:42 (fifteen years ago)

has there ever been a poll where tom d doesn't complain about a missing nomination?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:53 (fifteen years ago)

My nomination for Booker T. - Uptight is missing from your document ;_;

Pooping And Crying (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

A typo:
Funkadelic - Cosmic Slop listed as "Cosmic Stop".

I assume this won't affect the tabulation.

o. nate, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

has there ever been a poll where tom d doesn't complain about a missing nomination?

Well as there's never been a poll I've nominated in, I'd say it's more than likely

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:57 (fifteen years ago)

Funkadelic typo fixed. Booker T. album is from 1969.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

Oh my goodness, I'm sorry. Thanks!

Pooping And Crying (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

So does anyone have a lesser-known album they want to make a case for? There's only seven ballots in at this point, so your good words still have plenty of people to influence (hopefully).

For me, I got on a pretty big Kris Kristofferson kick a couple years ago, but it wasn't until this past spring that heard what could possibly be the best thing he's ever been a part of. Full Moon with his wife (at the time) Rita Coolidge. It's similar to Gram Parsons' works with Emmylou, but I think it's ultimately more inviting and the subtext is deeper because they actually were a couple.

(Okay, Kristofferson's first album is probably still his best, but Full Moon comes in a VERY close second.)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

I would like for everyone to hear the first Roches album before they vote. Maybe you can find it lying around somewhere.

WmC, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

Was thinking about starting a 70s Poll Youtubes and Other Hype thread, but we can do that here instead if you want.

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

makes page too long to load if you do that. would rather it was kept separate

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

You're not supposed to using a 70s computer K.

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

Alternative 1970s Poll: thread for YouTubes and other hype

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

Spotted one more typo: it's Rahsaan Roland Kirk, not Rashaan.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

Fixed.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

Thanks for putting up a message at the top of the page!

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 January 2010 00:04 (fifteen years ago)

that's class.

the not-fun one (Ioannis), Sunday, 3 January 2010 00:07 (fifteen years ago)

Oh now it's gone. FOILED!

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 January 2010 00:09 (fifteen years ago)

sent

sarahel, Sunday, 3 January 2010 00:15 (fifteen years ago)

69 ballots as of now. We may not break 100 in this one (if we do, I'm gonna be busy entering ballots all day tomorrow). Right now, the album in 100th place has 65 points. That's just 10 points less than the 100th place album in the 80s poll, which is quite respectable.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 January 2010 01:15 (fifteen years ago)

I really hope you get about 30 votes in the next 24 hours.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 3 January 2010 01:16 (fifteen years ago)

I tried to help out, but people didn't want their nice clean site messed up.

America's Next Most Disabled Ballerina (WmC), Sunday, 3 January 2010 01:17 (fifteen years ago)

You get credit for trying anyway.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 January 2010 01:17 (fifteen years ago)

I'll come up with a ballot.

I X Love (Abbott), Sunday, 3 January 2010 01:24 (fifteen years ago)

who complained??

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 3 January 2010 01:26 (fifteen years ago)

lolll who nominated The Osmonds "The Plan" album?

I X Love (Abbott), Sunday, 3 January 2010 01:32 (fifteen years ago)

wait, pfunkboy, what?

I X Love (Abbott), Sunday, 3 January 2010 01:33 (fifteen years ago)

xp mike t-diva did!

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 January 2010 01:35 (fifteen years ago)

His next drink's on me.

I X Love (Abbott), Sunday, 3 January 2010 01:37 (fifteen years ago)

I'm surprised Crazy Horses didn't get a nom, even at kitsch value.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 January 2010 01:38 (fifteen years ago)

So glad Tomita got nommed.

I X Love (Abbott), Sunday, 3 January 2010 01:39 (fifteen years ago)

A person could do worse than to vote for Alain Goraguer

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I X Love (Abbott), Sunday, 3 January 2010 01:54 (fifteen years ago)

My strategy in selecting & ranking albums was imagining 'what would REALLY knock my socks off if I were to see it on a list?' Sort of rooting for the underdog. Which mean 70%+ of the things I voted for probably won't end up on the results, but that's ok.

I X Love (Abbott), Sunday, 3 January 2010 02:08 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i'm really excited to see these results

some dude, Sunday, 3 January 2010 02:15 (fifteen years ago)

that goraguer album is indeed fantastic.
can you give any recommendations for what to check out next from him?

Jamie_ATP, Sunday, 3 January 2010 02:31 (fifteen years ago)

No flipping idea. It's the only thing I've ever heard of hit.

doo-doo-do-do-doo-doo-do

I X Love (Abbott), Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:07 (fifteen years ago)

Quickie update:

73 ballots
70-point threshold for the top 100

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 January 2010 04:41 (fifteen years ago)

SEVEN HOURS LEFT. Vote now. My email address is open for business.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:57 (fifteen years ago)

Over/under on people saying "I never saw this thread, but if I had, I would have voted for ________" -- 5.

America's Next Most Disabled Ballerina (WmC), Sunday, 3 January 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

Even if we get no more votes, we've still got a pretty healthy poll going here.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 January 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

you will get more votes, and van der graaf generator may be about to undergo a small upsurge

*ponders*

hoos rotorvator (acoleuthic), Sunday, 3 January 2010 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

I just made a fresh batch of Rice Krispie treats. I'll give one to any voter between now and the poll closing who makes a spot for the first Van Halen album on a ballot. (j/k, I don't have the delivery mechanism.)

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 January 2010 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

Seriously regret voting early now

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 3 January 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

i put it in my top 10 i think...

Jamie_ATP, Sunday, 3 January 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

I voted early today. I think my tastes are pretty ILX-canonical so I probably helped crowd out some cherished underdogs. But many of the records I voted for were cherished underdogs in their time, and there are so many great records nominated that I wouldn't especially mind if none of my votes makes the final cut.

dad a, Sunday, 3 January 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah - I thought I'd struggle to get to forty, but my first draft ballot stretched to 180-odd albums (though admittedly some got in just for having kooky titles)

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 3 January 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

sent. had to make some adjustments last minute after noticing it was 40 and not 30 a la the 80s poll. /idiot

moron oil (Gukbe), Sunday, 3 January 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

i threw a hail mary w/my no 1, hope it makes the cut

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 3 January 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

PROGRESSIVE ROCK (and Tom Petty) REPRESENTIN'

hoos rotorvator (acoleuthic), Sunday, 3 January 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

Quickie update: (less than 3 hours left)

78 ballots
74-point threshold for the top 100

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 January 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

Gotta chop three out... and would like to put the rest in order... gnnn...

(feeling kinda bad for massive overrepresentation of krautrock and underrepresentation of other genres on my ballot, would really have liked to explore the other options before voting, but Christmas period has been mad busy w/precious little time to listen to music)

brett favre vs bernard fevre, fite (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 3 January 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

Chopping albums by bands I really really love but am already voting for other things by vs chopping stuff I really really love but everyone will vote for vs chopping stuff I only mostly love but nobody else will vote for
(rhetorical question)

brett favre vs bernard fevre, fite (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 3 January 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

Quite a conundrum.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 January 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

I have just made my wote. Wish I'd gotten around to listening to some different stuff as was my intention, but sure that this thing will open my ears to plenty of new stuff.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Sunday, 3 January 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

Sent. The order is completely haphazard in places, and although a large part of me wishes I'd had time to listen to extra stuff, this was probably the most difficult ilx poll I've voted in. Too much awesome stuff.

emil.y, Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

These last two posts have been brought to you in association with the word 'stuff'.

emil.y, Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, stuff getting a good hard workout there.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:22 (fifteen years ago)

VOTED.

damn 40 is a lot of albums, it was great to be able to include so much

psychgawsple, Sunday, 3 January 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

Quickie update (less than an hour left to vote!)

83 ballots
76-point threshold for the top 100

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 January 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

i bet some good stuff at the bottom of the poll have been pushed out now

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 3 January 2010 23:20 (fifteen years ago)

CLOSED!

Adding in the last ballot, then making my own and adding it in as well. Will start the results thread later tonight and throw 100-96 out there. Thanks everybody!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 4 January 2010 00:08 (fifteen years ago)

Damn! I was working with the "midnight-my world" mentality, so I missed this.

peepee, Monday, 4 January 2010 02:38 (fifteen years ago)

I chose GMT to make it easy on the Europeans. :(

Johnny Fever, Monday, 4 January 2010 02:39 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

This Third Wave is pretty good. This type of sound depressed me when I was a kid. (Borrows heavily from Brazil for one thing and I don't think I liked any Brazilian music, especially with the weird harmonic stuff going on, until I was in my 30s.) I find myself liking lots of these 60s/early 70s pop covers of trendy rock or soul hits. Was there more of that sort of thing happening then than now or do I just imagine it? I'm pretty sure there must have been.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 18 January 2010 13:27 (fifteen years ago)

There's something complex about the experience of having familiar songs remade in familiar styles, specific to those times, come streaming back from the past in a specific package which is unfamiliar.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 18 January 2010 13:32 (fifteen years ago)


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