Polled & In The Way: Best 2000s Album by a Mature Artist Part I: 2000-2004

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It has become evident that appearing on a best of 2000s list is a young person’s game. This gets my musical goat because old people rock. But who has rocked most successfully?

To qualify for this poll, a record must meet the following criteria:

1. The artist must have been recording for at least 25 years at the start of the decade, releasing a record in or before 1975.

2. The record must appear on one of the following four lists:
Village Voice Pazz & Jop Top 40
Robert Christgau’s Year End Dean’s List
Acclaimedmusic.net’s Top 3000, or the “bubbling under” section
Metacritic’s 30 Best-Reviewed Records of the Year lists

3. It must be newly-recorded music. No live albums or compilations. We'll call this the How The West Was Won rule.

After much deliberation, my staff concluded that limiting the selections to those 4 lists created a wide cross section of records, while providing some sort of relatively objective criteria. Of course, everyone will have some pet records that fail to appear, and my staff is looking forward to hearing about them.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Bob Dylan – Love and Theft 10
Brian Wilson – Smile 4
Steely Dan – Two Against Nature 2
Dolly Parton – Little Sparrow 2
Emmylou Harris – Red Dirt Girl 2
Tom Waits – Blood Money 2
Kraftwerk – Tour De France Soundtrack 2
Al Green – I Can’t Stop 1
Linda Thompson – Fashionably Late 1
Johnny Cash – Unearthed 1
Neil Young - Greendale 1
Michael Jackson – Invincible 1
Leonard Cohen – Ten New Songs 1
Tom Waits – Real Gone 1
Joni Mitchell – Both Sides Now 1
Loretta Lynn – Van Lear Rose 1
David Bowie – Heathen 1
Bettye Lavette – A Woman Like Me 0
John Cale – Hobosapiens 0
Emmylou Harris – Stumble Into Grace 0
Warren Zevon – The Wind 0
Peter Stampfel and the Bottlecaps – The Jig Is Up 0
Tom Waits – Alice 0
Johnny Cash – American IV: The Man Comes Around 0
Merle Haggard – If I Could Only Fly 0
Lou Reed – Ecstasy 0
Johnny Cash – American III: Solitary Man 0
John Hammond – Wicked Grin 0
Buddy Guy – Sweet Tea 0
Billy Joe Shaver – The Earth Rolls On 0
Nick Lowe – The Convincer 0
Bruce Springsteen – The Rising 0
Solomon Burke – Don’t Give Up On Me 0
Orchestra Baobab – Specialist In All Styles 0
Tom Ze – Jogos de Armar 0
Warren Zevon – My Ride’s Here 0
Ray Charles – Genius Loves Company 0


kornrulez6969, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

Where's "Morph the Cat", Metacritic's 29th best reviewed album of 2006?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry, but...

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

Little Sparrow

President Keyes, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

"Smile". Although he wasn't mature when he wrote and arranged it.

I hope you will include McCartney's perhaps best ever solo album in the 2005-09 poll.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

I'm always a little wary of this genre because I feel like critics give these records more than their due share of attention and praise because they're so enamored of past greatness. Been burned too often by late-career coasting. So I haven't checked most of these, but I'm voting Smile too, which succeeds in being wondrous.

dad a, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

Little Sparrow, though I do adore Love & Theft.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

shame Grace Jones just misses qualification by 2 years, would say 'Hurricane' otherwise

mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

Love & Theft ... followed closely by Alice ...

tylerw, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

what's sad: i have heard exactly NONE of these albums in their entirety.

LAMBDA LAMBDA LANDA (Beatrix Kiddo), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

kate bush misses qualification by 3 years! otherwise aerial.

lex pretend, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

I think i would rate Alice higher if I hadn't heard the demos.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, you think they're better? Maybe I need to give them another listen -- I preferred the officially released album, but I think I heard that first.

tylerw, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

I had the demos for years before the released version, and I vastly prefer those versions of "Tabletop Joe" and "It's Only Alice".

EZ Snappin, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:33 (fifteen years ago)

Robert Christgau’s Year End Dean’s List

Way to exclude anything heavier than Springsteen...

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:36 (fifteen years ago)

yeah no maiden is a surprise considering magazines were raving about their 2 comeback albums.
A pity Celtic Frost are ineligible since i think their comeback album was as good as their releases in the 80s.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

oh wait maiden didnt release before 75 either nevermind

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

I have only heard the Loretta Lynn album from this list and it is pretty fine actually

Dark, promiscuous five-year-old (DJ Mencap), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago)

There are a lot of great records here. Aside from Bob. Ironically my favorite of the last 3 Zevon records, Life'll Kill Ya, wasn't eligible because it didn't show on any of the four lists. Another favorite of mine, Ian Hunter Shrunken Heads probably won't qualify either but I haven't checked yet.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 12 December 2009 06:45 (fifteen years ago)

is Robert Plant & Alison Krauss not here because of Krauss? would vote for that or Walter Becker's last solo if either were here, as it stands I gotta go with Two Against Nature.

some dude, Saturday, 12 December 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

Well, it didn't come out between 2000 and 2004, regardless of Krauss.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 12 December 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

o dag sorry i misread the title

some dude, Saturday, 12 December 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

love & theft

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Saturday, 12 December 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

Love and Theft, although I've played Merle Haggard's "Wishing All Those Old Things Were New" more often in the last year than any other song from these albums.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 December 2009 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

Love & Theft, but for all their flaws actually still put on Heathen and Ecstasy once in awhile.

sofatruck, Saturday, 12 December 2009 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

Ecstasy is Lou's best since New Sensations, but I'm sure no one agrees.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 December 2009 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

I voted Love & Theft but (among other albums already mentioned by others in this thread) I've enjoyed Solomon Burke's Don’t Give Up On Me an awful lot.

xp I like Ecstasy a lot but I have lots of time for other latter-day Lou albums, e.g. Set The Twilight Reeling.

Euler, Saturday, 12 December 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

love & theft, with orchestra baobab and little sparrow near behind. i like the lou reed album too.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 12 December 2009 16:31 (fifteen years ago)

My Ride's Here, though I'd vote for the last few Zevon albums in general, because they hate everything in the whole world and that is the kind of indiscriminate dedication I can get behind.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 December 2009 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

I still like Heathen a lot.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 December 2009 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

Ecstasy is Lou's best since New Sensations, but I'm sure no one agrees.

just listened to this the other day for the first time in a few years i'm afraid. damn fine record!! i really like a bunch of these that i've heard, but L&T is still my fave of the bunch.
and why did the NY Dolls not qualify?

controlled noise pollution (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 12 December 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

oh, i guess it's 'cuz they didn't record anything between 1975 and 1999?

controlled noise pollution (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 12 December 2009 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

and why did the NY Dolls not qualify?

They'll be in part 2. Part 1 is the first half of the decade. Can't do it in one big poll because of the 50 entry limit.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 12 December 2009 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 17 December 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 18 December 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago)


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